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Guys attacking cyclists in Dublin!!

  • 30-06-2012 11:34am
    #1
    Speedmerchant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭


    Got knocked off this morning on the N81 outbound near the Embankment at 0730.

    4 guys in a silver punto <snip> came by, one of whom leaned out the window and pushed me causing me to crash. they sped off.

    Called the gardai who came up straight away and when I gave the reg number they said guys in the same car had done they same thing a week or so ago in Clondalkin.

    To others cycling in the area beware of these c**nts. Or if it's happened to you give tallaght gardai a ring. They were very pleasant etc but said they likely wouldn't catch them. Car registered to a fake name.


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  • #2
    greenmat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭greenmat


    Thats terrible, hope they run that car over a cliff with themselfs in it, b**tards. I'd push this harder with the Gardai, they need to nab these cnuts.


  • #3
    Jarren
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren


    Sorry to hear that OP, were you injured ?


  • #4
    Jarren
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren


    It says grey colour on history car check

    <snip>

    Surely Guards can do better than this,they have to follow through the complaint you made.


  • #5
    kincsem
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    <snip>
    I'm looking.


  • #6
    Columbia
    Registered Users Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Columbia


    Outrageous that the Gardai are not doing more to help.


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  • #7
    oflahero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭oflahero


    Gotta watch out for it too on Stocking Lane in the evenings. Attempted push from the passenger seat three nights ago, hooned off too fast to get the reg. If you feel a car hovering on your back wheel a bit too close for a bit too long, it's a warning.


  • #8
    Speedmerchant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Speedmerchant


    Cut knee & bruised hip. Nothing serious except major dent in my pride.

    Not sure what more the gards can do, they seemed genuinely concerned & said they'd ring me over the next few days with any developments. Would love if these f**king cowards got caught.

    Thanks for nice messages above.


  • #9
    jayteecork
    Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    As usual the Guards don't sound in the slightest bit interested.


  • #10
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    There was a guy stuck on my wheel for longer than usual on the straight section before Hellfire club on stocking lane on Thursday night around 7.30pm.

    I looked around and waved him through. He eventually moved on. As the car passed the rear window began to close.
    I thought it was suspicious. Three people. Two in front and one in rear. Small car, I thought it was a White car.

    At the top there were two cars doing donuts.

    I won't be heading up there after work on my own in future.


  • #11
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    jayteecork wrote: »
    As usual the Guards don't sound in the slightest bit interested.
    Did you read the post?


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  • #12
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Put in a claim against their insurance for your injuries and damage to your bike.


  • #13
    Pa Dee
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 279 ✭✭Pa Dee


    There was a crazy poster on politics.ie. Another poster pointed below out....


    That claim was made by TommyP who appears to be a dangerous, anti-cycling nutter. In the same thread he repeatedly admitted to buzzing cyclists who he feels are too far from the verge ("I dont keep any distance from them") and "viciously" beeping cyclists "in the hope of scaring them off the roads permanently". He claimed to do this to 2-3 cyclists every month. A few examples of his attitude:

    http://www.politics.ie/forum/transport/146381-crackdown-dangerous-cyclists-40.html#post3578448
    http://www.politics.ie/forum/transport/146381-crackdown-dangerous-cyclists-42.html#post3580530
    http://www.politics.ie/forum/transport/146381-crackdown-dangerous-cyclists-43.html#post3580551
    http://www.politics.ie/forum/transport/146381-crackdown-dangerous-cyclists-45.html#post3584393
    http://www.politics.ie/forum/transport/146381-crackdown-dangerous-cyclists-45.html#post3586060
    http://www.politics.ie/forum/transport/146381-crackdown-dangerous-cyclists-46.html#post3611798

    He was asked numerous times in that thread to substantiate his claim that cyclists must remain within 12 inches of the verge and didn't/couldn't because it's simply not true. In fact others cited legislation clearly showing the contrary.


  • #14
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    This isn't just a Dublin thing. A few weeks ago at about 10am on a Sunday morning a white Peugeot 405 with 4 brain dead retards passed me. I was on the hard shoulder and the road is very wide. They started blowing the horn as they approached from behind and the prick in the rear passenger side opened his door wide as they passed. I'd say there was 6 inches between me and the door. Frightened the life out of me but thankfully I didn't fall. I can't say for sure but if I had to bet on it I'd say he was trying to knock me off. I didn't get the reg other than it was an N.Ireland reg. this happened on the ballybofey to Letterkenny road.


  • #15
    mp31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭mp31


    Speedmerchant wrote: »
    Got knocked off this morning on the N81 outbound near the Embankment at 0730.

    4 guys in a silver punto <snip> came by, one of whom leaned out the window and pushed me causing me to crash. they sped off.

    Called the gardai who came up straight away and when I gave the reg number they said guys in the same car had done they same thing a week or so ago in Clondalkin.

    To others cycling in the area beware of these c**nts. Or if it's happened to you give tallaght gardai a ring. They were very pleasant etc but said they likely wouldn't catch them. Car registered to a fake name.

    FFS what is the world coming to... hope you're allright OP.
    How easy is it to register a fake name... I recall having to take in my passport for proof if ID and a utility bill as proof of address when registering our car so how come these scumbags got away with this. :mad:


  • #16
    Speedmerchant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Speedmerchant


    I might keep an eye on YouTube or equivilant for videos of this behaviour. We might see ourselves.

    (if they do pop up it's important to remember the camera makes screams sound much more girlish than they actually were!)

    Will post what (if anything) the gards say.


  • #17
    hardCopy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    mp31 wrote: »
    Speedmerchant wrote: »
    Got knocked off this morning on the N81 outbound near the Embankment at 0730.

    4 guys in a silver punto <snip> came by, one of whom leaned out the window and pushed me causing me to crash. they sped off.

    Called the gardai who came up straight away and when I gave the reg number they said guys in the same car had done they same thing a week or so ago in Clondalkin.

    To others cycling in the area beware of these c**nts. Or if it's happened to you give tallaght gardai a ring. They were very pleasant etc but said they likely wouldn't catch them. Car registered to a fake name.

    FFS what is the world coming to... hope you're allright OP.
    How easy is it to register a fake name... I recall having to take in my passport for proof if ID and a utility bill as proof of address when registering our car so how come these scumbags got away with this. :mad:

    Just steal the plates off a similar car


  • #18
    weiland79
    Registered Users Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭weiland79


    I have the pleasure of cycling past a halting site every evening on the way home from work. I've had rocks, pieces of wood and on 1 occasion a piece of dog Sh!t thrown at me.

    The joys of living in Ireland!


  • #19
    Happy Monday
    Registered Users Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Happy Monday


    Happened to me in Galway.
    I was off road between Moycullen and Spiddal.
    Car pulls up and a guy hits me on the back with a plank of wood.
    Then they went 200 hundred yards down the road and turned back.
    They just sped past.
    Hasn't stopped me cycling though!
    But it is advisable to go out with others if you can at all.


  • #20
    PCPhoto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    hardCopy wrote: »
    Just steal the plates off a similar car

    but surely in this day an age..... the gardai have traffic cameras with licence plate readers so a car can be located asap ....its not rocket science !!

    Licence plate readers like the toll people have is all thats needed or a simple computer program running which would scan live images from the camera feeds, link up a database of car registrations of reported cars and hey presto Garda traffic control room has a track on offenders.

    as for the OP ...I'm not a cyclist and not really a fan of some of the idiots that are ruining the reputation of the rest of you with the red-light jumping and excessive speeding/dangerous weaving in Dublin ...but this kind of behaviour deserves a serious punishment in the courts.

    its all fun and games till someone gets knocked off and suffers a fatal injury - this idiots should have their licences revoked and be banned from driving for a minimum of 5 years and if caught during that time....straight to jail for a minimum of 3yrs (keep the roads a bit safer)


  • #21
    Rasheed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    weiland79 wrote: »
    I have the pleasure of cycling past a halting site every evening on the way home from work. I've had rocks, pieces of wood and on 1 occasion a piece of dog Sh!t thrown at me.

    The joys of living in Ireland!

    Beautiful. God help ya, just because them tramps never worked a day. You shouldn't have to put up with that.


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  • #22
    Jarren
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren


    An Garda Síochána uses Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) systems in its Garda Traffic Corps vehicles. ANPR uses optical character recognition technology to automatically read vehicle registration plates and is used in patrol cars by many police forces worldwide. The technology can read number plates at a rate of six per second on vehicles travelling up to 180km/h.

    ANPR systems also include a speed detection capability. This allows for the measuring of the speed of a vehicle travelling in front of a patrol vehicle. The video camera records on-the-scene evidence of speeding, and offences such as dangerous driving, crossing continuous white lines and breaking red lights.

    One of the main benefits of the system is that the plate recognition can run in the background while Gardaí are measuring speed or attending to other issues as demands dictate.

    All vehicles fitted with ANPR camera systems will be able to identify vehicles as being stolen, untaxed, suspect, cited as connected with terrorist suspects, crime groups, drug trafficking, people trafficking and/or persistent offending.
    The systems therefore make a significant contribution to the fight against serious and organised criminal activity.

    The planned nationwide roll out of ANPR in An Garda Síochána was completed in 2010 and 114 vehicles, mainly from the Traffic Corps, are now fitted with the technology. ANPR vehicles are now deployed in every Garda Division, with the number of vehicles allocated in each division based on various criteria including the type of roads, the amount of motorways and geographic profile.


    http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=106&Lang=1


  • #23
    Speedmerchant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Speedmerchant


    Let's hope APNR delivers then.

    Or maybe a bunch of heroin children kept in a warm bath somewhere who predict traffic offences à la Minority Report.

    Unfortunately I'd say they are both about as likely as each other in the hope of catching these guys.

    I was cycling with a friend at the time. Don't think that made any difference to them.


  • #24
    jayteecork
    Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    endacl wrote: »
    Did you read the post?

    I did.

    Considering the OP has the reg it sounds like they should be dead to rights.

    "Blah blah we'll ring you back with any news blah blah"

    Me hole.


  • #25
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    jayteecork wrote: »
    endacl wrote: »
    Did you read the post?

    I did.
    All of it?


  • #26
    concernman
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭concernman


    A quick test on mywheels says that car has not been taxed or have NCT for over 60 days


  • #27
    PCPhoto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    Jarren wrote: »
    An Garda Síochána uses Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) systems in its Garda Traffic Corps vehicles. ANPR uses optical character recognition technology to automatically read vehicle registration plates and is used in patrol cars by many police forces worldwide. The technology can read number plates at a rate of six per second on vehicles travelling up to 180km/h.

    ANPR systems also include a speed detection capability. This allows for the measuring of the speed of a vehicle travelling in front of a patrol vehicle. The video camera records on-the-scene evidence of speeding, and offences such as dangerous driving, crossing continuous white lines and breaking red lights.

    One of the main benefits of the system is that the plate recognition can run in the background while Gardaí are measuring speed or attending to other issues as demands dictate.

    All vehicles fitted with ANPR camera systems will be able to identify vehicles as being stolen, untaxed, suspect, cited as connected with terrorist suspects, crime groups, drug trafficking, people trafficking and/or persistent offending.
    The systems therefore make a significant contribution to the fight against serious and organised criminal activity.

    The planned nationwide roll out of ANPR in An Garda Síochána was completed in 2010 and 114 vehicles, mainly from the Traffic Corps, are now fitted with the technology. ANPR vehicles are now deployed in every Garda Division, with the number of vehicles allocated in each division based on various criteria including the type of roads, the amount of motorways and geographic profile.


    http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=106&Lang=1

    ever been in a car with one of those ANPR things on ? .... very annoying !! ... thing goes off every couple of mins.

    the Gardai would be more sucessful using both the ANPR things and the toll plate readers ....simple enough to create the system I described earlier.


  • #28
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Years ago I had a firework thrown under my wheel near portrane. Luckily, no damage was caused but my heart skipped a beat!


  • #29
    Dermot Illogical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭Dermot Illogical


    jayteecork wrote: »
    I did.

    Considering the OP has the reg it sounds like they should be dead to rights.

    "Blah blah we'll ring you back with any news blah blah"

    Me hole.

    It sounds like a company car, in which case it's probably being used by a whole group of imbeciles. The reg doesn't tell anybody where the car is now or who was driving it at a particular time, so it's a long way off from "dead to rights".
    I'm not sure what reaction you expect from the garda taking the report?


  • #30
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I've removed all identifying references to the motor vehicle. If the guards decide to publicise it, then it's OK to to post details (please provide a link though). However for all we know there could be someone perfectly innocently driving round in a vehicle with that particular number plate who could be wrongly accused because someone else has fake plates with the same number

    Thanks

    Beasty


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  • #31
    kincsem
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    That make, model, colour, and number plate would be miracle coincidence.
    Anyway I've remembered the details.


  • #32
    Bunnyhopper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Bunnyhopper


    kincsem wrote: »
    That make, model, colour, and number plate would be miracle coincidence.
    Anyway I've remembered the details.

    If you were cloning a plate then you'd deliberately match the make, colour, model and year, although the false name suggests that might not apply here.

    I'm glad you're okay, OP. That sort of thing is frightening and frustrating as well as dangerous. I've never experienced it myself (touch wood, etc.) - the nearest I've got is having stones thrown at me from Labre Park on the Kylemore Road in Dublin.


  • #33
    Raam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    Years ago I had a firework thrown under my wheel near portrane. Luckily, no damage was caused but my heart skipped a beat!

    It went off under my wheel :P

    A mate of mine was shoved off his bike somewhere along the N81 a couple of years ago. Thread on this forum somewhere about it. I've had my arse slapped coming back from a race near Balbriggan once. Gave me a fright. Whoever it was drove real close and from the passenger side someone whacked the back of me and then went up and clocked the helmet also. I reckon it hurt his arm more.


  • #34
    Spokes of Glory
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭Spokes of Glory


    Speedmerchant wrote: »
    To others cycling in the area beware of these c**nts. Or if it's happened to you give tallaght gardai a ring. They were very pleasant etc but said they likely wouldn't catch them. Car registered to a fake name.

    Don't want to turn this into an anti-gardai thread, but really.....would this not peak their interest straight away ?? Surely that's some kind of red flag.

    Spokes


  • #35
    Glencarraig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    THis is probably the same shower of scroats who whipped my back with a belt buckle a while ago on the Featherbeds Road. Shortly after it happened I saw what I thought was the same car coming back towards me and I really did fear for my safety. The only weapon I had was my drink bottle which I was just about to throw at the windscreen when I realised it wasnt the same car !


  • #36
    Dermot Illogical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭Dermot Illogical


    Spokes of Glory wrote: »
    Don't want to turn this into an anti-gardai thread, but really.....would this not peak their interest straight away ?? Surely that's some kind of red flag.

    Spokes

    Of course it's interesting, but how does that change anything at the time of it being reported? Are they supposed to run to the fake address looking for the fake owner?


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  • #37
    route66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭route66


    oflahero wrote: »
    Gotta watch out for it too on Stocking Lane in the evenings. Attempted push from the passenger seat three nights ago, hooned off too fast to get the reg. If you feel a car hovering on your back wheel a bit too close for a bit too long, it's a warning.

    I'm on that road some evenings. Haven't seen this happen myself but I'm slowly turning green reading your post and the OP's.

    FFS


  • #38
    greenmat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭greenmat


    Beasty wrote: »
    I've removed all identifying references to the motor vehicle. If the guards decide to publicise it, then it's OK to to post details (please provide a link though). However for all we know there could be someone perfectly innocently driving round in a vehicle with that particular number plate who could be wrongly accused because someone else has fake plates with the same number

    Thanks

    Beasty
    There is no one driving around with that same Plate No as the vehicle involved in this serious incident, as when checked on Pulse system by the Gardai it came back as a fake plate as outlined by OP, well thats how I read it. These scrotes are driving around with fake plates and I think it needs to be made available here.


  • #39
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    greenmat wrote: »
    Thats terrible, hope they run that car over a cliff with themselfs in it, b**tards. I'd push this harder with the Gardai, they need to nab these cnuts.

    Id agree with that. Buried 6 foot under is the only place for them and the likes of them.


  • #40
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    They were very pleasant etc but said they likely wouldn't catch them. Car registered to a fake name.

    There should be gards on every street corner in ireland on the beat just simply walking and observing,or in their patrol cars,in order to catch the crime they should do the time on the streets and be there if it happens..

    No point coming after the event has occured and perpetrators have long gone..

    They need to increase garda numbers also,which hasnt been happening lately.

    The recruitment freeze on the gardai has done nothing to help the situation..

    Also there are plenty of able bodied gards filing papers and such spending all day in the office when they should be out in their patrol cars,they should hire clerks for that job freeing up more garda numbers..

    The whole system is shambolic.


  • #41
    Bigcheeze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Bigcheeze


    Beasty wrote: »
    I've removed all identifying references to the motor vehicle.

    Thanks

    Beasty

    ....apart from post no. 17 and no. 19. ;)


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  • #42
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    route66 wrote: »
    I'm on that road some evenings. Haven't seen this happen myself but I'm slowly turning green reading your post and the OP's.

    FFS

    me too, has me fairly worried about my twice weekly midweek spins up there


  • #43
    monkeyslayer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 934 ✭✭✭monkeyslayer


    sorry to hear about this, unfortunately its not the first time i've heard of this happening. i wouldn't let the scum put you off stocking lane tho...

    slightly of topic but i misread this thread title and thought for a moment that pride parade today had taken an unusual turn!


  • #44
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,345 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Time to get one of those cheap helmet cameras.


  • #45
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    greenmat wrote: »
    There is no one driving around with that same Plate No as the vehicle involved in this serious incident, as when checked on Pulse system by the Gardai it came back as a fake plate as outlined by OP, well thats how I read it. These scrotes are driving around with fake plates and I think it needs to be made available here.
    Boards rules do not permit this. As I stated previously, if the Gardai release this information (or indeed it comes into the public domain from another source), then a link can be provided. This is no different from the "photos of bike thieves" issue we had previously.


  • #46
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Bigcheeze wrote: »
    ....apart from post no. 17 and no. 19. ;)
    Thanks

    Now removed


  • #47
    Weirdview
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭Weirdview


    Was heading out towards Enniskerry the other evening, on the longish drag up to the hotel/ski club on the right.
    A big silver jeep came along side me, I didn't pay it any heed at first but suddenly a guy leaned out the back window and roared really loudly right behind my head!

    Scared the sh1te out of me, the front wheel wobbled quite a bit but luckily I didn't fall. They just speeded off laughing and blowing the horn.

    I didn't get the reg, but I cycled as fast as I could to Enniskerry thinking I might see the car parked somewhere but I never saw it again. (probably just as well!! No idea what I would have done against 3 lads on my own)

    Obviously not as serious as the OP but be careful folks there's some right nut jobs out there.


  • #48
    manwithaplan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭manwithaplan


    I find the best release for the pent-up frustration that follows being intimidated by car-borne hooligans is to smack a few pedestrians upside the head.


  • #49
    Borderfox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    slightly different but a friend of mine was out on his horse and a Range Rover - Mitsubishi Evo and a Honda Civic went past him at approx 70 - 80mph beeping the horn. Luckily his Horse was not too phased but could have been nasty with a fatality. He only got the number of the Evo and found out where it was and sorted it out.


  • #50
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    manwithaplan wrote: »
    I find the best release for the pent-up frustration that follows being intimidated by car-borne hooligans is to smack a few pedestrians upside the head.

    Or getting really close to a mountain biker going up a hill and roaring in their ear and then pegging it off up the hill laughing.


  • #51
    teednab-el
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Glencarraig wrote: »
    THis is probably the same shower of scroats who whipped my back with a belt buckle a while ago on the Featherbeds Road. Shortly after it happened I saw what I thought was the same car coming back towards me and I really did fear for my safety. The only weapon I had was my drink bottle which I was just about to throw at the windscreen when I realised it wasnt the same car !
    <snip>

    Mod note : dont promote violence


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