Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

Mountainlad · 04-07-2013 10:13pm

shoddy14 wrote: »

An All star based on performances against two Mickey Mouse teams (no disrespect to Offaly and Westmeath).. I want some of what ever yere on

How could they not take disrespect to that?

doz · 04-07-2013 10:23pm

chinguetti wrote: »

We'll agree to differ doz but Seamus is the only forward, apart from Shanahan who will win ball in the air for us. As said earlier, the forwards (in my mind) link better with him on the pitch. I guess we'll all know more after the next day.

Don't dispute at all that Seamus is capable of winning the ball in the air and as you rightly pointed out, we have a dearth of players in this capacity. However in my view he hasn't been doing the business in the last two games, he is not even getting off the ground and was dominated by both the Offaly and Westmeath fullbacks in the air. Just don't see any way he would make any inroads against KK or Tipp full backs where we will need goals to have any chance of a win. Shane Walsh being fit is critical as it would allow Seamus to revert to centre forward. Shane is a fantastic competitor and one of the best players I have seen in the air for a man of his height.

shoddy14 · 04-07-2013 10:31pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

How could they not take disrespect to that?

Its not their fault, they are just not quality opposition obviously. 2nd and 3rd tier of the league??

PTH2009 · 05-07-2013 1:36am

for 2014 with Seamus possibly retired who will we have to win ball in the forward lines. If Stephen Molumphy comes back to the panel will he play in the Half forward line

robopaddy · 05-07-2013 7:48am

shoddy14 wrote: »

Its not their fault, they are just not quality opposition obviously. 2nd and 3rd tier of the league??

Offaly are a good team. Both limerick and Dublin are also tier 2 teams and their not going too bad this year.... Cork are relegated to division 2 now does that make them a mickeymouse team aswell?

robopaddy · 05-07-2013 9:09am

PTH2009 wrote: »

for 2014 with Seamus possibly retired who will we have to win ball in the forward lines. If Stephen Molumphy comes back to the panel will he play in the Half forward line

Last time I checked we were still in the 2013 championship

Ballyvoile Boy · 05-07-2013 9:40am

DeiseX wrote: »

Minor Championships gets under way this evening!! Some cracking games throughout all the divisions!! Madness to think that some of the powers that be want to bring back the East/West divisional championship instead of all county. The all county championship has partly contributed to the progression we've seen of the county minor hurling team!!

Where can you get results/league tables for the club minor games? Nothing on the co. website.

Mountainlad · 05-07-2013 7:15pm

Ballyvoile Boy wrote: »

Where can you get results/league tables for the club minor games? Nothing on the co. website.

http://www.waterfordgaa.ie/latestResults

They're there just scroll down a bit

No league table as yet but after one game it's easy to figure out and not really too important anyway.

shoddy14 · 05-07-2013 9:54pm

robopaddy wrote: »

Offaly are a good team. Both limerick and Dublin are also tier 2 teams and their not going too bad this year.... Cork are relegated to division 2 now does that make them a mickeymouse team aswell?

Do ye want combs to help with yere nit picking? Offaly a good team

When was the last time they won any sort of meaningful game in championship? Dublin got to the All Ireland semi and won the league 2 years ago, Cork got to the All Ireland semi final only last year comparing apples and oranges!

robopaddy · 06-07-2013 8:16am

shoddy14 wrote: »

Do ye want combs to help with yere nit picking? Offaly a good team When was the last time they won any sort of meaningful game in championship? Dublin got to the All Ireland semi and won the league 2 years ago, Cork got to the All Ireland semi final only last year comparing apples and oranges!

Well we struggled against them for long stages and were level with westmeath at half time so where does that leave us then

Hslaw · 06-07-2013 1:28pm

lads anyone know if tipp and KK are on the box or live stream tonight ?

The blue blaa · 06-07-2013 2:04pm

Hslaw wrote: »

lads anyone know if tipp and KK are on the box or live stream tonight ?

TV3 coverage begin at 6.30

Hslaw · 06-07-2013 2:12pm

The blue blaa wrote: »

TV3 coverage begin at 6.30

cheers nice one

shoddy14 · 06-07-2013 2:31pm

robopaddy wrote: »

Well we struggled against them for long stages and were level with westmeath at half time so where does that leave us then

You cant judge a team based on 1 game or half a game for that matter! We lost to a Clare team that has been in the doldrums for years but we have some pedigree, Munster Finalists the past 2 years. We can be classified as a top tier team but we need to win a meaningful game this year to maintain that

jive · 06-07-2013 3:18pm

Footballers going well, just 3 points down at half time and have the wind in second half. A win in Salthill would be one for the books

Coillte_Bhoy · 06-07-2013 3:43pm

0-12 to -010 up now

KevIRL · 06-07-2013 3:44pm

4 in a row after half time and 11 pts to 10 ahead now

wp_rathead · 06-07-2013 4:00pm

From sounds of it ye are lucky to be behind
1-12 to 0-13 as i write this

Mountainlad · 06-07-2013 4:03pm

1-12 to 0-14 full time to Galway.

Great performance coming back from what happened against Kerry and having to travel to Pearse Stadium. All the talk no doubt will be about a poor Galway, but the footballers deserve some credit for giving a performance like that.

Diabhal Beag · 06-07-2013 4:54pm

I don't know if any Waterford Boardsies were at the match but if anybody knows the guy who ran on the pitch at HT and started decimating the children of Galway with some of the worst footballing skills I've seen in years please tell him thanks for the entertainment. Hilarious stuff and lifted the mood before the mood plummeted.

Your free-taker was excellent.

robopaddy · 06-07-2013 5:27pm

shoddy14 wrote: »

You cant judge a team based on 1 game or half a game for that matter! We lost to a Clare team that has been in the doldrums for years but we have some pedigree, Munster Finalists the past 2 years. We can be classified as a top tier team but we need to win a meaningful game this year to maintain that

Anyone who knows hurling knows Clare are one of the up and coming teams in hurling. You cant say that a group of young lads who have been winning minors and u21s have been in the doldrums.

The only way we are going to win anything this year if a couple of more forwards step up to the plate and help Maurice out. He has tried his best to step into the void left by Mullane weve seen glimpses of Brian O'Sullivan hopefully he can take confidence from his goals the last day but there are still a few more lads that havent really done it yet this year

fuinneamh · 06-07-2013 5:37pm

Definitely one that got away from the footballers today. Galways bench, ill-discipline at kick outs and the 2/3 shots that dropped in the keepers arms cost us the game. Despite all that; it was only 1 point in the difference.

On the plus side; we were very patient in attack and organised in defence. The only thing i'd have like to seen is lads running of a guys shoulder after a lateral pass in midfield. Could have really torn Galway a new one, if that was done.

Mountainlad · 06-07-2013 6:03pm

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

I don't know if any Waterford Boardsies were at the match but if anybody knows the guy who ran on the pitch at HT and started decimating the children of Galway with some of the worst footballing skills I've seen in years please tell him thanks for the entertainment. Hilarious stuff and lifted the mood before the mood plummeted.

Your free-taker was excellent.

Paul Whyte is the free taker, only 21 this year. Great young footballer

Professey Chin · 06-07-2013 8:28pm

Kilkenny then. Bring it!

Hslaw · 06-07-2013 8:29pm

Bring it on is right.

where will the match be on ?

Mountainlad · 06-07-2013 8:30pm

Chinpool wrote: »

Kilkenny then. Bring it!

I will look forward to this game with optimism. Nobody will give us a chance, and Kilkenny won't be at home in front of their own. Also, another week on the bounce as well.

Still, to have a chance of winning we will have to some way of playing around their halfback line, f*ck it their whole backline is just unreal!

But looking forward to it

Mountainlad · 06-07-2013 8:31pm

Hslaw wrote: »

Bring it on is right.

where will the match be on ?

Thurles without doubt I would say.

seananigans · 06-07-2013 8:31pm

Chinpool wrote: »

Kilkenny then. Bring it!

after that i'll take our chances ,another game on the clock for them ,time for them to go ,and I would love for us to do it

KevIRL · 06-07-2013 8:35pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

I will look forward to this game with optimism. Nobody will give us a chance, and Kilkenny won't be at home in front of their own. Also, another week on the bounce as well.

Still, to have a chance of winning we will have to some way of playing around their halfback line, f*ck it their whole backline is just unreal!

But looking forward to it

Hear hear. Glad I'll be back home for that one

PTH2009 · 06-07-2013 8:36pm

It will be tough game good experience for our lads.

I'd say a double header In thurles next Saturday. Wexford vs Clare 3pm and Waterford vs Kilkenny 5pm

deiseach · 06-07-2013 9:29pm

KevIRL wrote: »

Hear hear. Glad I'll be back home for that one

We're doomed :-)

07-07-2013 12:17am

The more games this Kilkenny side get, the better for them.

suitcasepink · 07-07-2013 12:57am

Should we get concrete confirmations about venues and times on Monday morning?

PTH2009 · 07-07-2013 12:58am

deise_girl wrote: »

Should we get concrete confirmations about venues and times on Monday morning?

hopefully have to try and begg for next saturday off work

:D

suitcasepink · 07-07-2013 1:23am

PTH2009 wrote: »

hopefully have to try and begg for next saturday off work :D

As a little tip maybe when youre begging, dont talk about how we have no chance and its basically a walk over for KK like you instincitivly might. Instead talk up Waterford, think about all the potential they have and explain this to your employer/manager/whoever, then they could see the game as more meaningful and realise how urgent it is you get this day off work.

You can thank me when it all works out

Ando's Saggy Bottom · 07-07-2013 1:29am

Possibly fatigue might be a factor with KK? 4TH game in 4 weeks. Clutching at straws I know.

nkay1985 · 07-07-2013 1:42am

It's always going to be a tough game against KK but we'll give it a lash anyway. Their half backs were very good, all their backs really. But their half forward line didn't win a lot of clean ball. With another week under his belt, Shefflin will surely play a bigger part. Michael Fennelly might also be involved in some way. One thing's for sure; they won't be getting weaker.

But from our perspective, we have a few positives to look at too. Hopefully Maurice can keep shooting the way he has been. Brian O'Sullivan will have to be feeling confident after his couple of goals against Westmeath and his strong second half against Offaly. In SOK, we have a keeper who might get us out of jail if we slip up which is something we haven't had for a long time, great servant though Clinton Hennessy was. Lots of other positives which will mean we'll give them a good game, I think. Michael Ryan also looks to have the squad very relaxed which is good.

I'd give anything to have Stephen Mollumphy on the field for this game though! It's the likes of him we may well miss come Saturday. I can't fcuking wait though!!!

Cake Man · 07-07-2013 1:55am

Agree with nkay, it's going to be very tough, tough to even live with them I think. Shefflin will surely see some game time but at least he won't see 70mins. I read TJ Reid went off injured with a hamstring injury so he may not be fit. Suppose it's pointless talking about who they have/don't have available as the next fella that comes in will be just as capable anyway.

We need to worry about our own game and that will mean getting off to a good start. I worry our light forwards may be brushed easily aside by a ruthless and more physical KK defence. Trying to nullify their half back line will be crucial too but this will mean having to really contest for high ball which is something we're not great at.

It'll be interesting but fcuk it we have nothing to lose. Nobody will give us a hope. KK on the road for 4 weeks straight having had 4 tough games will surely count for something you would think. The good ol' Tipp folk may even come out to their doorstep to cheer us on! :pac:

07-07-2013 1:57am

Mountainlad wrote: »

I will look forward to this game with optimism. Nobody will give us a chance, and Kilkenny won't be at home in front of their own. Also, another week on the bounce as well.

Still, to have a chance of winning we will have to some way of playing around their halfback line, f*ck it their whole backline is just unreal!

But looking forward to it

Maurice Shanahan, Jake Dillon and co should ask more questions of their backs though then we did and if they can contain the Kilkenny forwards who arent exactly on fire, then id give Waterford a serious chance.

Shefflin was a huge psychological boost but at 34, these injuries have to take their toll at some stage and he cant be 100%. Waterford are in an ideal situation and are waiting in the long grass. Worth a cheeky tenner perhaps?

Mountainlad · 07-07-2013 2:48am

Deleted User wrote: »

Maurice Shanahan, Jake Dillon and co should ask more questions of their backs though then we did and if they can contain the Kilkenny forwards who arent exactly on fire, then id give Waterford a serious chance.

Shefflin was a huge psychological boost but at 34, these injuries have to take their toll at some stage and he cant be 100%. Waterford are in an ideal situation and are waiting in the long grass. Worth a cheeky tenner perhaps?

A very cheeky tenor Gunner, but the way this championship is going who knows. If we get good odds (suspect we might) then worth a cut.

Worth noting the Kilkenny wides as well, and some of them were very scoreable. By far the dominant team, and yet they only won by 3 and Tipp had a great goal chance in Kelly's effort.

Hope for us yet I feel

jive · 07-07-2013 5:05am

Only decent side Waterford played so far were Clare and they were fairly comfortably beaten that day. The only hope is that KK will be emotionally and physically drained after 3 huge games and that they may come into the game a bit sluggish. Tbh though that's wishful thinking because it's KK we're talking about. The way I see it is they've had 3 really competitive games and we haven't really been at the races nor have we had as many competitive games. I can only see a KK win because we don't have the scoring power to beat them at present BUT if we hit very few wides we'll certainly be in with a chance because KK haven't been racking up huge scores either.

TLDR
I think it'll be a relatively comfortable KK win, ~7 points, but I hope Waterford catch them on the hop after 3 tough games.

robopaddy · 07-07-2013 8:57am

jive wrote: »

Only decent side Waterford played so far were Clare and they were fairly comfortably beaten that day. The only hope is that KK will be emotionally and physically drained after 3 huge games and that they may come into the game a bit sluggish. Tbh though that's wishful thinking because it's KK we're talking about. The way I see it is they've had 3 really competitive games and we haven't really been at the races nor have we had as many competitive games. I can only see a KK win because we don't have the scoring power to beat them at present BUT if we hit very few wides we'll certainly be in with a chance because KK haven't been racking up huge scores either.

TLDR
I think it'll be a relatively comfortable KK win, ~7 points, but I hope Waterford catch them on the hop after 3 tough games.

I know its the wrong thing to say but I have to say it what a pity we dont have mullane next weekend I think we could take them if we did unfortunately I just can't see us racking up enough scores against that defence

Mr Tibbs · 07-07-2013 9:07am

Deleted User wrote: »

Maurice Shanahan, Jake Dillon and co should ask more questions of their backs though then we did and if they can contain the Kilkenny forwards who arent exactly on fire, then id give Waterford a serious chance.

Shefflin was a huge psychological boost but at 34, these injuries have to take their toll at some stage and he cant be 100%. Waterford are in an ideal situation and are waiting in the long grass. Worth a cheeky tenner perhaps?

To have any chance against Kilkenny our defence will have to be as good as Tipp were and our forwards will have to better than Tipp done yesterday. A big ask, if our full back does his party piece in this game well Kilkenny will win comfortably.
This is a chance to give us only our second win against the Cats in in championship history. Isn't that hard to believe. We should have bet them in '98 and '04 but there is some gulf in might and did. Hard luck yesterday I think Kilkenny will feel they have a major obstacle out of the way now and certainly will have no fear of Waterford next Saturday. I will be thrilled if we do beat Kilkenny but I won't be too surprised if we loose. I live in hope.

Deskjockey · 07-07-2013 9:28am

Excited about next week now, think we have a chance, maybe only a small one but surely KK playing three massive intense games in the last three weeks has to have some impact on their freshness for next week, in their fourth week in a row. KK still rightly favourites but we might shock them. Up the Déise !!

Some buzz around KK last night, the town was packed... Had to laugh the amount of people telling me *definitively* next week's match had been fixed for Thurles, others saying Waterford and more again saying Nowlan Park. Everybody in the dark. Surely the GAA should know there was only a couple of combinations after yesterday and be able to confirm straight after the game last night.

Ando's Saggy Bottom · 07-07-2013 11:44am

The bit of hope for us lies in the fact that KK will naturally have a bit of a come down from all the hype this week and the high of beating Tipp. Also Dublin few with them and then beat them and I don't think they're hugely better than us.

That being said I cant see our lightweight forward line putting the scores up needed to put them away. Terrible wides have been our scourge all year and you just can't do that vs KK.

07-07-2013 11:47am

Mr Tibbs wrote: »

To have any chance against Kilkenny our defence will have to be as good as Tipp were and our forwards will have to better than Tipp done yesterday. A big ask, if our full back does his party piece in this game well Kilkenny will win comfortably.
This is a chance to give us only our second win against the Cats in in championship history. Isn't that hard to believe. We should have bet them in '98 and '04 but there is some gulf in might and did. Hard luck yesterday I think Kilkenny will feel they have a major obstacle out of the way now and certainly will have no fear of Waterford next Saturday. I will be thrilled if we do beat Kilkenny but I won't be too surprised if we loose. I live in hope.

The way i see it Waterford are every bit as good as Dublin so yes i would give them a good chance and more crucially they will probably have a wide open space in Thurles with the likes of Jake Dillon to get the goals. If they can turnover possession and get the scores then they are well in it. Maurice Shanahan has the ability to win frees also. There is no way last nights game can be used as a reference point as tbh i cant remember the last time our forwards were able to win clean possession on the forty whereas you have the forwards that have the ability to do so. The Kilkenny forwards haven't clicked so far. They've scored a mere 1 goal in the championship so far and haven't even really looked like getting a goal. Henry might assist them in that regard but Waterford need to bring a savage intensity to the game like nothing before. They need to believe in themselves big time.

Red Crow · 07-07-2013 1:05pm

Is the game going to be on a Saturday or Sunday lads?

I'm hoping its a double header in Semple on Sunday. When is it announced? Monday?

suitcasepink · 07-07-2013 1:38pm

Eli Manning wrote: »

Is the game going to be on a Saturday or Sunday lads?

I'm hoping its a double header in Semple on Sunday. When is it announced? Monday?

A direct head to head with the Munster final? That would be an interesting idea of the GAAs to say the least.. :pac:

Mountainlad · 07-07-2013 1:42pm

Eli Manning wrote: »

Is the game going to be on a Saturday or Sunday lads?

I'm hoping its a double header in Semple on Sunday. When is it announced? Monday?

It'll be a double header in Thurles on Saturday all they need to do is confirm the times. Reckon 5pm and 7pm, the first game Clare v Wexford the second ourselves v Kilkenny.

deise_girl wrote: »

A direct head to head with the Munster final? That would be an interesting idea of the GAAs to say the least.. :pac:

Yeah they have had some 'brilliant' ideas in the past of course, but they're never stupid enough to so obviously compromise their ability to make money!! Glad the association is built around those important ideals :rolleyes:

jive · 07-07-2013 3:07pm

robopaddy wrote: »

I know its the wrong thing to say but I have to say it what a pity we dont have mullane next weekend I think we could take them if we did unfortunately I just can't see us racking up enough scores against that defence

I agree if Mullane was still around Waterford would be in with a much better shout but he's not so not much point talking about him! While the backs and midfielders are a fairly solid unit the forwards are very much in transition and I don't expect them to rack up too many scores against KK which I think will end up being the difference. Hope I'm wrong but just don't think we'll get enough on the board unless we have very few wides and KK have a good few.

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