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M17/M18 - Gort to Tuam [open to traffic]

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    #2342
    antoobrien
    Registered Users Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    busyatwork wrote: »
    Its great to see some progress on the construction of this moterway ,id say it will be well into march before the large earthworks takes place with weather and planning and all that work having to be taking into consideration before you will see any shape taking place

    Yeah, the works taking place now will be creating the site offices and compounds for machinery etc.


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    #2343
    annfield1978
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    Its most likely March before the construction works start in earnest


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    #2344
    antoobrien
    Registered Users Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    Survey work ongoing at the southern end of the tuam bypass.


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    #2345
    Leonard Hofstadter
    Registered Users Posts: 5,540 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    Great to see that something's finally happening at last! At times it seemed as though it was never going to happen. Galway to Cork on a Friday evening is an absolute nightmare until you get to Cork. Many's the time I've done less than 10 mph between Oranmore and Gort. Even when you wouldn't expect the roads to be terribly busy you'd get stuck behind some jackass doing maybe 30-40 mph and it's quite hard to get by because there's always such a good flow of traffic on this road (and the overtaking opportunities are so limited).

    Although it's not a proper solution for the village, bypassing Claregalway will make some difference there also, certainly for anyone doing say Sligo/Tuam-Oranmore/Gort they will get to avoid the place now. On the rare occasions I do venture up to Sligo, I certainly won't miss being stuck in that village either!


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    #2346
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,106 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    If you ever get caught in a traffic jam on the Galway side of Clarinbridge god help ya! Took me 2 hours one bad day to get from Clarinbridge to Eyre Square. Coming out that night it took 20 minutes.


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    #2347
    busyatwork
    Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭busyatwork


    This is one of the longest from signing the contract to starting construction projects i have ever seen ,work is definitely starting and it will be next year before progress is made on the construction but i for one am glad it is going ahead and it will be know time before the road will be opened and make journeys alot easyer


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    #2348
    gally74
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭gally74


    A site office and yard has been set up on the monivea road, seems to be a sisk yard,

    Finally


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    #2349
    annfield1978
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    Site staff for the designers are being lined up for about March so thats when you will see a serious push


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    #2350
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,106 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    annfield1978 wrote: »
    Site staff for the designers are being lined up for about March so thats when you will see a serious push

    March? 10months after the contract was signed!


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    #2351
    glineli
    Registered Users Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭glineli


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    March? 10months after the contract was signed!

    I have heard of an engineer returning from Australia in February to start work in March on the project, so that lines up with the above


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    #2352
    Geogregor
    Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    They could definitely start clearance and major grading of the route before the final details are designed.
    By now they should be finalizing minor details of the design. It shouldn't hold start of the construction.

    But who knows how well the whole project is actually managed, everything is possible...


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    #2353
    busyatwork
    Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭busyatwork


    Geogregor wrote: »
    They could definitely start clearance and major grading of the route before the final details are designed.
    By now they should be finalizing minor details of the design. It shouldn't hold start of the construction.

    But who knows how well the whole project is actually managed, everything is possible...

    Environmental reason will have a part to play when the clearience will start .On another note someone pointed out to me that these large compannes dont have much interest in working in ireland ,they all seem to be busy abroad and making alot more profit in other countries


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    #2354
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    busyatwork wrote: »
    On another note someone pointed out to me that these large compannes dont have much interest in working in ireland ,they all seem to be busy abroad and making alot more profit in other countries
    Seems highly unlikely - work is work and profits are very variable from project to project as they're dependent on factors out of their control.


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    #2355
    busyatwork
    Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭busyatwork


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Seems highly unlikely - work is work and profits are very variable from project to project as they're dependent on factors out


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    #2356
    busyatwork
    Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭busyatwork


    busyatwork wrote: »
    spacetweek wrote: »
    Seems highly unlikely - work is work and profits are very variable from project to project as they're dependent on factors out

    Yes work is work but getting a fleet of plant and machinery orgaised and brought into the country is a big expense, getting suitable men for the job is more hassle
    When you are set up abroad


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    #2357
    red bull
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭red bull


    I would like to be positive lets hope we have a motorway to Tuam soon


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    #2358
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    busyatwork wrote: »
    Yes work is work but getting a fleet of plant and machinery orgaised and brought into the country is a big expense, getting suitable men for the job is more hassle
    When you are set up abroad
    Yes it take a long time, that's why it was signed in April and work is only starting now.


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    #2359
    Shurwhynot
    Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Shurwhynot


    Stupid question, but how long before this motorway opens? In other words, how long does it take to build a motorway!


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    #2360
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,532 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Depends.

    Closest similar length scheme i could find is M6 Galway-Ballinasloe. Included a good few river bridges and more junctions by comparison to M18 route. Probably got more resources for it due to being a much higher trafficked route. If i recall correctly, it took 2 years (maybe a bit more) from construction to completion. Significantly less fkcking around in the former also.

    In my uneducated opinion and based on the above factors I would say Q4 2017 is a decent estimate for completion.


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    #2361
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,106 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Shurwhynot wrote: »
    Stupid question, but how long before this motorway opens? In other words, how long does it take to build a motorway!

    2018 is the target for the completion of the motorway.


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    #2362
    Geogregor
    Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    veryangryman wrote: »
    In my uneducated opinion and based on the above factors I would say Q4 2017 is a decent estimate for completion.

    You are probably right, but only if they finally start construction in the next few weeks.

    I can also imagine them concentrating on the southern half of the scheme and opening M18 from Gort to M6 before the rest of scheme.


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    #2363
    [Deleted User]
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    Geogregor wrote: »

    I can also imagine them concentrating on the southern half of the scheme and opening M18 from Gort to M6 before the rest of scheme.

    Based on all other motorways opened in the last few years, they will open it all in one go and not in sections as you suggest


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    #2364
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Based on all other motorways opened in the last few years, they will open it all in one go and not in sections as you suggest

    You must have been living in a country other than Ireland dude


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    #2365
    marmurr1916
    Registered Users Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    D Trent wrote: »
    You must have been living in a country other than Ireland dude

    Actually shorter schemes have been opened in one go in recent years.

    It is possible that this scheme could be opened in stages: from Gort to the M6 and from the M6 to Tuam.


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    #2366
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,106 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    The m7 was opened in stages. A nice few of them:P


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    #2367
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,532 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    The m7 was opened in stages. A nice few of them:P

    Not quite true. The M7 was 3 or 4 projects separate e.g Castletown to nenagh was one.


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    #2368
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,394 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    The m7 was opened in stages. A nice few of them:P

    And so was the M6. To the Dublin side of Ballinasloe first I think, then a while later after the bridge was built in ballinasloe the rest of it opened. Indeed that "rest of it" was used in the flooding emergency as well when craughwell was impassable if I remember correctly.


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    #2369
    flazio
    Registered Users Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    The way I remember it is, M4 Lucan to Kilcock first, then onto Kinnegad, then onto Mullingar bypass. Then they opened the m6 as far as Kilbeggan, then as far as Athlone, then the short stretch to Ballinasloe East and finally the N6 company controlled Ballinasloe to Galway.


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    #2370
    busyatwork
    Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭busyatwork


    It will be opened in one scheem id say ,because its all one project like the m6 balinasloe to galway


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    #2371
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,814 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    busyatwork wrote: »
    It will be opened in one scheem id say ,because its all one project like the m6 balinasloe to galway

    The M7 Limerick to Nenagh was one project too, but was opened in sections. It does happen sometimes and could very well happen here on such a long scheme.


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