The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

helimachoptor · 06-03-2015 7:33pm #1

Old thread is over 10K posts.

Please banter away in this one.

JCTO · 06-03-2015 7:36pm

Historic day for this forum surely? Was that the first thread to go over 10k posts in AF history?

helimachoptor · 06-03-2015 7:48pm

yep, Pats one will be next

Phoenix Park · 06-03-2015 8:01pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

yep, Pats one will be next

The Titans one must be close enough Heli...?

raze_them_all_ · 06-03-2015 8:01pm

What if you have used up all your banter

helimachoptor · 06-03-2015 8:03pm

Phoenix Park wrote: »

The Titans one must be close enough Heli...?

Soon mate soon, I'm like a one man band in there, Dohnny and Higgins pop in to add to the post count

Once we get a bit of success we'll explode :cool:

helimachoptor · 06-03-2015 8:03pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

What if you have used up all your banter

Mock the Bears.. today seems like a good day tbh!

raze_them_all_ · 06-03-2015 8:06pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

Mock the Bears.. today seems like a good day tbh!

My packers do that all the time

mikemac1 · 06-03-2015 8:13pm

JCTO wrote: »

Was that the first thread to go over 10k posts in AF history?

If Tebow was still in Denver the Broncos thread would have smashed past 10k posts long ago

JCTO · 06-03-2015 8:58pm

mikemac1 wrote: »

If Tebow was still in Denver the Broncos thread would have smashed past 10k posts long ago

The Broncos Thread and that mad Tebow thread also.

poldebruin · 06-03-2015 10:28pm

I'll predict the Trent Richardson traded to the Colts thread gets to 10k next, slowly, but surely.

06-03-2015 11:29pm

Anybody predicting any landing spots for Harvin? He seems to be on his last legs as a top receiver. Nobody wants to be involved at all, I think he's nearly tailor made for New England at the right price. Kansas could have a look too maybe they'll have a WR Touchdown with him :pac:

alphonse mephisto · 06-03-2015 11:30pm

BANTER!!!!

Realt Dearg Sec · 07-03-2015 12:01am

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

My packers do that all the time

Goddamnit.

Guffy · 07-03-2015 12:28am

The New York Jets have finally given Geno Smith an elite wide receiver to miss

frostie500 · 07-03-2015 12:44am

Deleted User wrote: »

Anybody predicting any landing spots for Harvin? He seems to be on his last legs as a top receiver. Nobody wants to be involved at all, I think he's nearly tailor made for New England at the right price. Kansas could have a look too maybe they'll have a WR Touchdown with him :pac:

It'll depend on how much money he thinks he's worth. Personally I don't see him being worth much more than a 5 mill a year deal, that's overpaying for his production last year but his talent is so big that he'll get snapped up. 5 is what I'd be willing to risk unless you've got a lot of cap space and want to front load so that you can release him after a year. I'd love the Eagles to go get him because he could be a great piece in our offence and if we can get someone like him and a number one to replace Maclin I'd be very happy

07-03-2015 12:26pm

good to see mjd retire he was just damaging himself at this stage awesome runner in his day though

frostie500 wrote: »

It'll depend on how much money he thinks he's worth. Personally I don't see him being worth much more than a 5 mill a year deal, that's overpaying for his production last year but his talent is so big that he'll get snapped up. 5 is what I'd be willing to risk unless you've got a lot of cap space and want to front load so that you can release him after a year. I'd love the Eagles to go get him because he could be a great piece in our offence and if we can get someone like him and a number one to replace Maclin I'd be very happy

i doubt chip kelly would get rid of shady and desean because they dont just put the head down and work and sign harvin

frostie500 · 07-03-2015 12:59pm

Clementine Scary String wrote: »

i doubt chip kelly would get rid of shady and desean because they dont just put the head down and work and sign harvin

Most likely not, I'd just like to see us go out and get him!

Alfred Borden · 08-03-2015 2:57pm

Here we go :pac:

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/574568936898957313

helimachoptor · 08-03-2015 3:32pm

surprised it took so long!

Realt Dearg Sec · 08-03-2015 3:35pm

Raf32 wrote: »

Here we go :pac:

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/574568936898957313

The lad won't take "you're not a good player" for an answer. He's kind of like Rudy.

phatkev · 08-03-2015 6:06pm

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-shooting-orlando-jeep-20150308-story.html

The deceased driver was identified as Dreekins Oriko Johnson, 28.

The two living victims, Reggie Johnson and Chris Johnson, both 29, were taken to a hospital in stable condition. Reggie Johnson was shot in the shoulder, hand and leg, while Chris Johnson was shot in the shoulder.

jaysus doesn't sound to good

helimachoptor · 08-03-2015 6:35pm

Just coming to post that, seems minor from reports

helimachoptor · 08-03-2015 9:02pm

Just on Suhs deal, part of the reason for taking it is surely the 0% income tax in Florida.

However just reading up there, NFL players will pay tax on the away games (if income tax is charged in the state the game is in)

For example

Lets say Suh is getting 16 million for next season.
8 million of that is untaxable as 8 home games are in Florida.

NY is 8.82% (Jets and Bills)
Massachusetts is 5.2% (Patriots)
Florida/ Jags 0% tax
Tennessee 6.2% (Titans)
Pennsylvania 3.2% (Eagles)
Maryland 5.75% (Redskins)
California 13.5% (chargers)

So he'll pay $456,000 in tax which equates to about 2.5% across his income for year 1.

poldebruin · 08-03-2015 9:31pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

Just on Suhs deal, part of the reason for taking it is surely the 0% income tax in Florida.

However just reading up there, NFL players will pay tax on the away games (if income tax is charged in the state the game is in)

I just read that in association with Suh's deal too, and it struck me what a huge competitive advantage it could give some teams. The NFL seems to take competitive balance so seriously, but any Florida-based team essentially has 13% more cap spend than any California-based team every year? (While the other teams are scattered somewhere between these two examples) Am I missing something?

OAOB · 08-03-2015 9:33pm

As a Chargers fan i was thinking we're obviously an unattractive option due to the high tax rate in California but was reading how teams structure contracts to more lump sum payments. These are taxed in the state the player is a resident of which i'm sure is never declared as California

helimachoptor · 08-03-2015 9:41pm

poldebruin wrote: »

I just read that in association with Suh's deal too, and it struck me what a huge competitive advantage it could give some teams. The NFL seems to take competitive balance so seriously, but any Florida-based team essentially has 13% more cap spend than any California-based team every year? (While the other teams are scattered somewhere between these two examples) Am I missing something?

Basically, if you sign for Jags/Buccs/Fins Vs the Chargers/Raiders/9'ers there's a 13% difference in what you'll take home.

So you can look at it, you can pay a guy 8.7 million and he keeps it all (leaving out the 8 other state taxes for the minute.

Where as the other teams above would have to pay 10 million to the player for the same take home.

poldebruin · 08-03-2015 10:02pm

Strange that nobody really ever seems to mention this - what is obviously an enormous advantage for some teams over others. I found an article about it at the time the salary cap was first introduced.

1995 the salary cap was $37m!

raze_them_all_ · 09-03-2015 12:31am

Chris johnson in hopsital was in a car that was shot up. Driver killed and him and another injured.

Also gore to eagles looks to be done

helimachoptor · 09-03-2015 8:50am

Matt hasslebeck had his car stolen in Nashville...

Colts Suck!

adrian522 · 09-03-2015 12:38pm

I see scouts at the Jackson State Pro day didn't want to look at any WR with a 40 time slower than 4.5 seconds. Seems weird given that only one receiver was fast enough to be viewed.

For perspective Jerry Rice, greatest receiver of all time, had a '40' time of 4.69. Even guys like Cruz and Fitz wouldn't have been eligible for these scouts to take a second look.

Son Of A Vidic · 09-03-2015 12:43pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

Matt hasslebeck had his car stolen in Nashville...

Colts Suck!

I'm guessing when he gets the car back, he probably complained that the tyres were under-inflated, hence the reason it was stolen...:pac:

Guffy · 09-03-2015 3:49pm

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

I'm guessing when he gets the car back, he probably complained that the tyres were under-inflated, hence the reason it was stolen...:pac:

?

09-03-2015 4:04pm

wow patrick willis reportedly going to announce his retirement shocking if true he's only 30 and still a beast

adrian522 · 09-03-2015 4:05pm

What the actual fcuk?

https://twitter.com/Rand_Getlin/status/574934793692950529

adrian522 · 09-03-2015 4:12pm

So...

Fired a head coach with one of the best ever records in NFL history through 3 years
Fired most of his staff including probably the best DC in the league.
Made a complete mess of hiring replacements, brought in the cheapest available guys
Became a laughing stock of the league
Losing Gore, best RB in franchise history for reasons unclear at the moment
Also losing Justin Smith to retirement, presume we will also ditch Crabtree, Stevie Johnson and Mike Iupati
Attempting to trade away the franchise QB (apparently).
Now Star player set to retire at 30.

Seriously WTF is going on in Santa Clara?

skippymac6 · 09-03-2015 4:13pm

Yeah crazy isnt it. 8 years and 7 pro bowls, 5 of which were all pro. Seriously good player. Bowman and Borland now for next year. Think Borland could have really learned a lot from Willis. Hopefully he changes his mind.

raze_them_all_ · 09-03-2015 4:22pm

Maybe hes made his money and is worried about his health in the future?

adrian522 · 09-03-2015 4:22pm

maybe the whole organization is a dumpster fire and he wants no part of it?

raze_them_all_ · 09-03-2015 4:25pm

adrian522 wrote: »

maybe the whole organization is a dumpster fire and he wants no part of it?

He would easily find another team if that was the case

adrian522 · 09-03-2015 4:27pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

He would easily find another team if that was the case

You can't just sign with another team though.still under contract to SF.

raze_them_all_ · 09-03-2015 4:30pm

adrian522 wrote: »

You can't just sign with another team though.still under contract to SF.

I know you cant but he could look to be traded make it clear he wants out etc. Afaik he cant retire and just come out for a different team so no matter what hed hace to be traded if he wanted out

JaMarcusHustle · 09-03-2015 5:21pm

adrian522 wrote: »

So...

Fired a head coach with one of the best ever records in NFL history through 3 years
Fired most of his staff including probably the best DC in the league.
Made a complete mess of hiring replacements, brought in the cheapest available guys
Became a laughing stock of the league
Losing Gore, best RB in franchise history for reasons unclear at the moment
Also losing Justin Smith to retirement, presume we will also ditch Crabtree, Stevie Johnson and Mike Iupati
Attempting to trade away the franchise QB (apparently).
Now Star player set to retire at 30.

Seriously WTF is going on in Santa Clara?

Misery, thy name is Jed.

JaMarcusHustle · 09-03-2015 5:29pm

Apparently he's retiring after experiencing a religious awakening, according to some rumours anyway.

adrian522 · 09-03-2015 5:30pm

Yeah, that appears to be the situation. Strange one.

helimachoptor · 09-03-2015 5:30pm

what is it with americans sports people and their passion for religion

Thank god for ABCDEF... etc etc

Tippex · 09-03-2015 5:33pm

considering all the rumours that are flying around we are gonna end up having montana back as QB the way things are going

adrian522 · 09-03-2015 5:38pm

And then they'll try to trade him away.

Knex* · 09-03-2015 5:43pm

Ray Lewis' religious awakening brought him another Super Bowl. Willis needs to talk to God again.

And come play for the Giants. Pro Bono.

Jesus says its right.

adrian522 · 09-03-2015 5:52pm

Anyone think Willis has a legitimate shot at the Hall of Fame?

I don't to be honest though I think if he had played another 3 or 4 years at the same level he'd have had a great shot at getting in.

matthew8 · 09-03-2015 5:58pm

adrian522 wrote: »

Anyone think Willis has a legitimate shot at the Hall of Fame?

I don't to be honest though I think if he had played another 3 or 4 years at the same level he'd have had a great shot at getting in.

He might not get in because he didn't play for long enough but I'd have him in there. He's been the best in the league at his position (and hence one of the best players in the league) for a solid 5 years and given it's such an important position I think that's enough.

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