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Dr Ferrari's Camper Van (off-topic discussion)

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  • #5352
    Mycroft H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »
    I know a few people who teach at third level and its mad to hear how much plagiarism goes on, especially among first years. I think the thing that always surprises me the most is how many of those caught find it difficult to conceive that there's something wrong with it.

    I suspect uncovering plagiarists is like spotting re-regs for Boards mods. They always think that there's some super sleuthing involved, but really you spot it a mile off. The writing style is always the giveaway.

    I recyced parts of an essay essay in 3rd year from a year before. Rejigged the sentences, rewrote some of the lines and used synonyms for the important bits. Easy peasy.

    Did I get caught? No. Do I feel bad? Nope. Would I do the same to others work? Perhaps not.


  • #5353
    DirkVoodoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,504 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    You should see this "safe assign" thingy they have now, scary how good it is, a little too Orwellian for my liking. Everything I do has to be submitted using it, except for maths homeworks which are still done the old fashioned way: copying the chinese students*

    *I kid, I do my own maths.


  • #5354
    Mycroft H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    You should see this "safe assign" thingy they have now, scary how good it is, a little too Orwellian for my liking. Everything I do has to be submitted using it, except for maths homeworks which are still done the old fashioned way: copying the chinese students.

    My department never used safe assign. Always heard my colleuges moaning about it. 2 identical copies with cover sheets FTW :D


  • #5355
    doozerie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭doozerie


    Plagiarism is so popular that it is alleged to be practiced at the highest levels. :)
    A chairman of the Institute of Technology Tralee has been accused by 26 staff of plagiarising sections of a thesis.
    :
    :
    Mr Garvey – a retired school teacher from Inagh, Co Clare, currently sits on an examinations and assessment appeals committee at the Tralee institute, which deliberates on issues such as plagiarism by students.

    I wonder how good his maths are, he might be thinking "Jaysus, 26 against 1, I'll beat this thing, no problem at all at all".


  • #5356
    manwithaplan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭manwithaplan


    Student claims they did not plagarise.
    I wrote down the websites for the 3 websites they copied and pasted from. Swears to my face, that they did not.
    I point out the change in font, background colour and font size, precisely where the copied text is (like a big neon sign saying "hey, I copied this and was to stupid to even re format it"), even though the language was enough to denote it was taken from someone else.
    Asks me to sit down and show them the website, as they don't believe me.
    They presumed because it was submitted by hand, I would not be able to check for plagarism.
    This is one better/worse than the student who last year told me it wasn't plagarism because they retyped it word for word rather than copied and pasted :eek:



    Sometimes I am afraid for the future.


  • #5357
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,167 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Dónal wrote: »
    That's horrific. Everyone needs to know how to plagiarise well.

    True, all they have to do is put it in their own words, reference it (correctly) and hey presto, oh wait....
    doozerie wrote: »
    Plagiarism is so popular that it is alleged to be practiced at the highest levels. :)

    Even higher: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12608083


  • #5358
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,167 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    manwithaplan wrote: »
    CramCycle (2012, post 5348) notes:
    'Student claims they did not plagarise.
    I wrote down the websites for the 3 websites they copied and pasted from. Swears to my face, that they did not.
    I point out the change in font, background colour and font size, precisely where the copied text is (like a big neon sign saying "hey, I copied this and was to stupid to even re format it"), even though the language was enough to denote it was taken from someone else.
    Asks me to sit down and show them the website, as they don't believe me.
    They presumed because it was submitted by hand, I would not be able to check for plagarism.
    This is one better/worse than the student who last year told me it wasn't plagarism because they retyped it word for word rather than copied and pasted :eek:



    Sometimes I am afraid for the future.' quoted from a post in the boards.ie cycling forum today from a poster under the username CramCycle

    Reference: "Dr. Ferrari's Camper Van", www.boards.ie, http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=82124771&postcount=5348

    FYP, sort of, I hate websites as references.


  • #5359
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    As part of my work, I'm occasionally involved in developing specifications for engineering works. I always smile when I see a spelling mistake I made ten years ago appear in a new, supposedly unrelated document. Easily flattered, me.


  • #5360
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    smacl wrote: »
    As part of my work, I'm occasionally involved in developing specifications for engineering works. I always smile when I see a spelling mistake I made ten years ago appear in a new, supposedly unrelated document. Easily flattered, me.

    I hate engineering specs. You're too lazy to exclude what's not relevant to the building I'm measuring so you leave it all in and waste my time needlessly. I'm quite capable of wasting it without your help thank you very much!


  • #5361
    happytramp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭happytramp


    There was a perfectly good Gatorskin tyre sitting outside cycleways earlier. I forgot to take it when I was leaving :(


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  • #5362
    Captain Havoc
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Captain Havoc


    Not having to write a thesis again is something I am very happy about.

    https://ormondelanguagetours.com

    Walking Tours of Kilkenny in English, French or German.



  • #5363
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Garmin 900 next year?


  • #5364
    Harrybelafonte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    happytramp wrote: »
    There was a perfectly good Gatorskin tyre sitting outside cycleways earlier. I forgot to take it when I was leaving :(

    Oh, man sorry. Maybe they brought it back in?


  • #5365
    StudentC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭StudentC


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Student claims they did not plagarise.
    I wrote down the websites for the 3 websites they copied and pasted from. Swears to my face, that they did not.
    I point out the change in font, background colour and font size, precisely where the copied text is (like a big neon sign saying "hey, I copied this and was to stupid to even re format it"), even though the language was enough to denote it was taken from someone else.
    Asks me to sit down and show them the website, as they don't believe me.
    They presumed because it was submitted by hand, I would not be able to check for plagarism.
    This is one better/worse than the student who last year told me it wasn't plagarism because they retyped it word for word rather than copied and pasted :eek:



    Sometimes I am afraid for the future.


    Had exactly the same conversation with one of your students last year, down to the lack of reformatting (bold and a completely different font, IIRC), the sudden change in writing style (in this case it wasn't just style, it was going from third person to first person)., the disbelief when I opened the website and showed them where I had found the phrases.

    Would laugh (or more likely cry) if it was the same student....


  • #5366
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,167 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    StudentC wrote: »
    Had exactly the same conversation with one of your students last year, down to the lack of reformatting (bold and a completely different font, IIRC), the sudden change in writing style (in this case it wasn't just style, it was going from third person to first person)., the disbelief when I opened the website and showed them where I had found the phrases.

    Would laugh (or more likely cry) if it was the same student....

    Different class but I can imagine who you are on about. One warning, to everyone, a 0% and it never happened again. They liked you, best lecturer they had in their eyes, and constant references to your teaching and correction style, left quite an impression, alot to live upto :(

    Generally I don't use the anti-plagarism software with labs/reports, as there is to much overlap with other students, only use it to identify sites if I can't find them straight away.


  • #5367
    CaoimH_in
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    I'm watching Overcoming (2005) on YT. Bjarne Riis is a bloody arse! My God having him as a DS would drive anyone mad--Good luck Nico.


  • #5368
    StudentC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭StudentC


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Different class but I can imagine who you are on about. One warning, to everyone, a 0% and it never happened again. They liked you, best lecturer they had in their eyes, and constant references to your teaching and correction style, left quite an impression, alot to live upto :(

    Generally I don't use the anti-plagarism software with labs/reports, as there is to much overlap with other students, only use it to identify sites if I can't find them straight away.


    Ah jeez, that's mad, chuffed by that, so I am! And there was me thinking they were alwasy bored to tears in my classes!

    As for the software - in that particular instance it took nothing more than 10 seconds of Googling to find the website, it was that blatant. But yeah, Turnitin and Safeassihn are good for essays but not the best for basic lab reports.


  • #5369
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Great interview with Kimmage taking a look back at Rough Ride, I found the section on Sky very interesting.

    http://m.bicycling.com/news/pro-cycling/paul-kimmage-and-long-crusade

    On mobile hence the mobile link, presumably if you change the m. to www. you'll get the full site.


  • #5370
    furiousox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,013 ✭✭✭furiousox


    That's a great read, thanks for the link.
    (Kelly testing his tyre pressures? :()

    CPL 593H



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  • #5371
    Qualitymark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Qualitymark


    CaoimH_in wrote: »
    I'm watching Overcoming (2005) on YT. Bjarne Riis is a bloody arse! My God having him as a DS would drive anyone mad--Good luck Nico.

    What's a DS? What's YT?


  • #5372
    DirkVoodoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,504 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Qualitymark wrote: »
    What's a DS? What's YT?

    Directeur Sportif? YouTube?

    JHAGNES...


  • #5373
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Director sportiv, youtube?


  • #5374
    MediaMan
    Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭MediaMan


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Great interview with Kimmage taking a look back at Rough Ride, I found the section on Sky very interesting.

    http://m.bicycling.com/news/pro-cycling/paul-kimmage-and-long-crusade

    On mobile hence the mobile link, presumably if you change the m. to www. you'll get the full site.

    The guy who wrote this article, Daniel McMahon, has been fired. From his twitter account at http://twitter.com/cyclingreporter:
    Tuesday I published my interview w/ @PaulKimmage on @BicyclingMag. Exec ed didn't like it. 2day my position was terminated. #coincidence


  • #5375
    Qualitymark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Qualitymark


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Director sportiv, youtube?

    IC. Tx.


  • #5376
    Paul Kiernan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    Directeur Sportif? YouTube?

    JHAGNES...

    JHAGNES ??????


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  • #5377
    Paul Kiernan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan


    +1 on the Sky section. A real eye-opener for me. I'm so f***ing innocent.

    I really liked his comment on McQuaid and Verbruggen ...

    "... while it would be very sweet to see them both behind bars ..."


  • #5378
    DirkVoodoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,504 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Paul Kiernan wrote: »
    JHAGNES ??????

    Hmmm...thought it was more obvious than YT:

    "Just hazarding a guess, not entirely sure"


  • #5379
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Lol, I thought JHAGNES was someones name.


  • #5380
    Kurtosis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Kurtosis


    Just been bitten by the Strava bug...oh dear.


  • #5381
    route66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭route66


    MediaMan wrote: »
    The guy who wrote this article, Daniel McMahon, has been fired. From his twitter account at http://twitter.com/cyclingreporter:

    :eek:


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  • #5382
    furiousox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,013 ✭✭✭furiousox


    Best
    Fridge
    Ever

    232138.jpg

    CPL 593H



  • #5383
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    furiousox wrote: »
    Best
    Fridge
    Ever

    232138.jpg

    Pity it's filled with tasteless muck.


  • #5384
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    furiousox wrote: »
    Best
    Fridge
    Ever

    232138.jpg

    could only be improved by doubling as a real marshall amp :D

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #5385
    Harrybelafonte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    Can't get the CRC site to do full search then reorder according to lowest prices, discount etc? ANyone else getting the same?


  • #5386
    Mycroft H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    furiousox wrote: »
    Best
    Fridge
    Ever

    232138.jpg

    Ahh Heineken isn't too bad to be fair.


  • #5387
    RobFowl
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,668 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    BX 19 wrote: »
    Ahh Heineken isn't too bad to be fair.

    Wash your mouth out with soap young man, then sit on the naughty step and contemplate your heresy....


  • #5388
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    Anyone who had Heineken import will agree its a nice beer as commercial beers go.


  • #5389
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    manafana wrote: »
    Anyone who had Heineken import will agree its a nice beer as commercial beers go.

    No they wouldn't.

    It's piss. It's just slightly stronger piss than the piss brewer here.

    All bottled Heiniken sold in Ireland is brewed in Amsterdam btw, Heiniken/Murphy's only produce it for kegs in Cork. So all bottled Heiniken is imported.

    And it's all piss.

    Lager, in general, is piss.

    p.s.

    Facebook id down, I was playing scrabble, now I'm bored.


  • #5390
    Darkglasses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    manafana wrote: »
    Anyone who had Heineken import will agree its a nice beer as commercial beers go.

    I'd say even the regular Heineken is a perfectly fine beer. It's easy to get very fussy over minute taste differences :confused:

    In other news, Facebook is having unexpected downtime. Productivity world-wide skyrockets.


  • #5391
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    if you dont like lager then surely you can't comment on one been good or not?


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  • #5392
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    manafana wrote: »
    if you dont like lager then surely you can't comment on one been good or not?

    I can.

    I don't like lagers in general, but I'd drink something like a Spatan Oktoberfiestbier or other good Marzens.

    Stuff like Heiniken/Carlsberg/Amstel/Miller/etc, they are all piss.


  • #5393
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    +1. Mass produced muck.

    Hooray for taste.


  • #5394
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    I actually had a few stein's of the Paulaner Oktoberfestbier in the beer tent at the galway christmass market, and that wasn't terrible either. Was much happier to drink that than a wissen, wheatbeer and me don't agree, gives me the worst hangover ever.


  • #5395
    Darkglasses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    I'm glad I can enjoy cheap, supermarket beers so much :D


  • #5396
    colm_gti
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭colm_gti


    You boys should try being students for a while! Whatever is on special offer when I get to the off licence is usually what I drink!


  • #5397
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    colm_gti wrote: »
    You boys should try being students for a while! Whatever is on special offer when I get to the off licence is usually what I drink!

    Nah - been there, done that, gotten sick too many times to remember. I'm happy with my [relative] affluence!

    Franziskaner and Leffe for the future! The monks do it best!


  • #5398
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    Nah - been there, done that, gotten sick too many times to remember. I'm happy with my [relative] affluence!

    Franziskaner and Leffe for the future! The monks do it best!

    Both are owned by Anheuser-Busch InBev and are mass produced at high ABV and wattered down.

    Just saying :P

    Monks haven't made either in a a long time.

    The Monks who made Leffe back in the day are paid royalties though.


  • #5399
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    people will each make their arguments, I like Spaten but no doubt that could be called mass produced now too all be it by a smaller brewer.

    New beer in aldi calls staroslav pretty good for lower end of prices. Also they have a 330ml case of a german brewed beer I might try out.

    Leffe is amazing, for its alcohol content it goes down so easily, mass produced or not


  • #5400
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    manafana wrote: »
    people will each make their arguments, I like Spaten but no doubt that could be called mass produced now too all be it by a smaller brewer.

    New beer in aldi calls staroslav pretty good for lower end of prices. Also they have a 330ml case of a german brewed beer I might try out.

    Leffe is amazing, for its alcohol content it goes down so easily, mass produced or not

    Spatan and Franiskaner are bother made in the same plant by Anheuser-Busch InBev.

    It is mass produced.


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  • #5401
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭manafana


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Spatan and Franiskaner are bother made in the same plant by Anheuser-Busch InBev.

    It is mass produced.

    well if its on mass market it is mass produced no choice, but their just owned by AB, brewed in Germany in the old plant


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