Denver Broncos Thread

Morrisseeee · 23-10-2014 12:13pm

Congrats to Peyton, a living Legend, as Aldi (kinda) says: "once he's gone, he's gone", so...........enjoy him while it lasts.

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poldebruin · 23-10-2014 12:41pm

....that didn't take long! (Is that a Brian Hoyer jersey in the background? I wonder what that's in for?)

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poldebruin · 23-10-2014 5:23pm

Terrell Davis is the subject of A Football Life, airs 24th October.

Preview on NFL.com

I loved his story coming out of college. Seemed like such a humble guy, and was so talented. Could do it all as a runner. Such a pity his career was cut short the way it was.

PokeHerKing · 23-10-2014 5:43pm

Thursday night football against the bolts and im off tomorrow! Heres hoping for another thursday night blowout but im expecting Sd to live with us till the 4th and then a slight pull away. Ill say a relatively comfortable 10 - 15 point win

TO. · 23-10-2014 5:49pm

poldebruin wrote: »

....that didn't take long! (Is that a Brian Hoyer jersey in the background? I wonder what that's in for?)

Browns set a recorded a record season comeback by a an away team against Titans. I would imagine thats why its there.

poldebruin · 23-10-2014 6:42pm

TO. wrote: »

Browns set a recorded a record season comeback by a an away team against Titans. I would imagine thats why its there.

...so they did. Fair play to him. Hope they stick with him for a bit longer, but ultimately 1st round picks tend to play.

Jolly Red Giant · 23-10-2014 6:45pm

poldebruin wrote: »

Terrell Davis is the subject of A Football Life, airs 24th October.

Preview on NFL.com

I loved his story coming out of college. Seemed like such a humble guy, and was so talented. Could do it all as a runner. Such a pity his career was cut short the way it was.

+1

The Broncos SB winning teams had a number of very talented and very humble guys who were the ultimate team first players - Rod Smith being another example.

Living long in the memory will be Davis being forced to sit out the second quarter of the SB V the Packers with severe migraine and coming back to dominate the game and turn in an MVP performance.

Morrisseeee · 24-10-2014 9:14am

Looking forward to the Davis documentary.

Good solid win last night, Manning was Manning with another 3 TDs, Hillman had another mighty game, he's really burst onto the scene, Thomas (88) with another 100+ game and then the MVP Sanders with 120 and 3 TDs !
Sanders catches are unbelievable, considering he's having to go high among defenders and still comes up with the catch, and he's as tough as nails to boot.
You'd have to be happy with the offense considering playing against the no 1 ranked scoring D and the defense holding a very potent offense and top QB to 21 pts. A few marginal calls went our way, but..........swings-and-roundabouts.

poldebruin · 24-10-2014 11:15am

Well I managed to stay up until Denver went up 28 - 7 in the third, but with it being a work night, and getting on in the years, I bailed and went to bed.

A fairly comfortable win in the end, after a tough start to the game. I thought San Diego played a pretty good game themselves, and would expect to see them finish strong and make the playoffs. The Kickoff return fumble/non fumble may have turned the game, but from my view his forearm was down before the ball came out, and I can't see what the fuss is about really. The interception in the endzone is going to be called in today's NFL, it was a bit of a messy play, but not an obvious hold. I woke up to read about Manning being "handed the game" by the refs, but I can't see it myself.

Hillman is looking better by the week, and was unlucky (for him and me as he is my starting RB in FF) again to have 2 possible long TD's called back, although both were the correct decisions.

Sanders is delivering on some of his early season promise, he looks like a real upgrade over Decker at this point, he has great hands, has made some tough catches and taken some huge shots, but pops back up for more. A great compliment to the Thomas'.

Both sides of the ball are now playing excellently, the defence looks formidable, and really bottled up the SD running game, and looks like it might be able to keep us in games if the Offense isn't firing.

The only negative was too many penalties once again.

Once we can get the Patriots game out of the way, we will have navigated a really tough opening half of the schedule and can look forward to (on paper) easier matchups, but I would have taken 6-2 or 7-1 by mid-term at the start of the season

poldebruin · 29-10-2014 1:12am

Looking forward to the game on Sunday night. I'm hoping (fat chance) the media doesn't play the Brady/Manning angle again, it feels quite old at this stage and it would be nice to hear something different.

I've noticed a couple of articles call attention to the fact that there may not be too many of these Brady/Manning matchups left though. It's amazing to think they have played each other 15 times during their time in the league, while Elway and Marino only matched up twice in the regular season and once in the playoffs (and both were far from their prime by then)

The Patriots have looked great the last 4 weeks, and were purring against the Bears (that might not account for anything though) and it looks like a terrible time to play them. Denver have looked pretty good though and win or lose it should be a good yardstick for both teams. There's no doubt it will have ramifications on home field for the playoffs.

spiralism · 29-10-2014 2:39am

Champ has retired. There aren't enough superlatives to describe the great man's career. Broncos legend through and through.

Jolly Red Giant · 29-10-2014 10:26am

spiralism wrote: »

Champ has retired. There aren't enough superlatives to describe the great man's career. Broncos legend through and through.

One of the most genuine players of all time.

It would be fantastic if he officially retired as a Bronco and I would love to see him brought into the Broncos coaching set-up.

Jolly Red Giant · 29-10-2014 10:31am

poldebruin wrote: »

The Patriots have looked great the last 4 weeks, and were purring against the Bears (that might not account for anything though) and it looks like a terrible time to play them. Denver have looked pretty good though and win or lose it should be a good yardstick for both teams. There's no doubt it will have ramifications on home field for the playoffs.

If you want to win the SB then you have to be capable of beating every other team. Much as I hate them, the Pats are one of the best - they have been playing well over the past few games.

I suspect that the Pats have actually reached the peak of their potential this year and it will be hard to sustain it for the rest of the season. The Broncos still are well off hitting the peak of their potential. Furthermore, Brady has to escape Miller and Ware.

dub_skav · 29-10-2014 1:47pm

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

One of the most genuine players of all time.

It would be fantastic if he officially retired as a Bronco and I would love to see him brought into the Broncos coaching set-up.

Was he ever officially a Saint? Seeing as he didn't make the 53.

Hazys · 29-10-2014 3:03pm

Morrisseeee wrote: »

That's a really cool graphic. Its a blast from the past to see some of the names he's played with over the years and the battles the Pats had against him.

One name that sticks out is DT and occasional FB Dan Klecko, i know the 509 TDs are for the regular season but i remember this in the playoffs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYeBE76FHts

FU Peyton!!

Morrisseeee · 30-10-2014 9:30am

poldebruin wrote: »

Looking forward to the game on Sunday night. I'm hoping (fat chance) the media doesn't play the Brady/Manning angle again, it feels quite old at this stage and it would be nice to hear something different.

Nope, it's the same old 'ass-licking' doh !! :rolleyes:

We need to bring our A game to the Pats, otherwise it could be a long night, the Pats are on a roll but lets see how they cope against a solid all-round team !
Q. Will Peyton try and hush the supporters, glwt :pac:

Morrisseeee · 30-10-2014 4:05pm

My Favourite Bailey moment/picture/memory

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bruschi · 30-10-2014 5:48pm

Morrisseeee wrote: »

My Favourite Bailey moment/picture/memory

I prefer this one....

:pac:

should be a good game Sunday night though. I disagree that the Patriots have already hit their peak. I think they are a still a bit off it. Yes they had a good result over Chicago, but the bears are so far out of it I wouldnt read that much into it, regardless of how satisfying it was. I would still favour the Broncos though, but you just never know with the form Brady is in the last couple of weeks, and BB's ability to get defences to take away Mannings impact.

Morrisseeee · 03-11-2014 9:25am

Morrisseeee wrote: »

We need to bring our A game to the Pats, otherwise it could be a long night, the Pats are on a roll

.......well it was a looooong night

poldebruin · 03-11-2014 10:43am

Morrisseeee wrote: »

.......well it was a looooong night

It sure was, very reminiscent of the super bowl imo. A high-profile game where the team pretty much fell apart in the first half, with an interception deep in territory that (could be argued, although with what came after, could also be seen as irrelevant) led to a score to put the Patriots up 13-7, a punt almost blocked, a long punt return for a score, 20-7, followed by a very makeable missed field goal.

The Patriots looked great offensively. Their line has shown such a huge improvement since the Raiders/Chiefs games earlier in the year. It would have been a great time to play them then (Foxboro or Denver). Some of the stuff Gronkowski can do is mind boggling, that backwards, jumping, diving catch near the goal line was crazy, and I know it's stating the obvious, but if he can stay healthy, the Patriots look a completely different team.

The only positive takeaway I can take from the game is that had the score been reversed I still would not have enjoyed the win fully, as I'm sure we'll meet again in the playoffs, and the regular season game will count for nothing (although it would have virtually guaranteed Denver home field for the playoffs) The beat down we put on the Ravens in the regular season a couple of years ago, only to see them come to Denver and beat us in the playoffs en route to winning the Super bowl has forever tainted my enjoyment of regular season wins.

Hopefully Denver can respond the way the Pats did after their game against the Chiefs on Monday night 4/5 weeks ago. They will need to if they harbour any hope of beating New England in Foxboro.

Jolly Red Giant · 04-11-2014 10:21am

Was away - so didn't see the game. I wasn't particularly pushed about seeing it either as I expects the Pats to win. I am not particularly worried about the result - the team will respond. There is a long way to go and the Pats do have a tough schedule over the next few weeks.

If someone had offered 6-2 at this point in the season I would have snapped their hand off.

poldebruin · 04-11-2014 11:56am

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

If someone had offered 6-2 at this point in the season I would have snapped their hand off.

As would I. The opening half of our schedule looked so tough, and even with 5 of our remaining 8 games away form Denver, it looks far easier. That said, of the two games I thought we might lose, we lost both.

....and while I also thought the Patiots would win, I did not think they would beat us so easily. I know it was cold, and windy, but that odes not explain the Defence looking so poor (virtually no pressure on Brady), not the sloppy special teams play. McManus looks to be a replacement-level kicker and that could cost us down the line. We surrendered in the running game (a lot had to do with the scoreline, granted) but even before the game got out of hand it was clear we couldn't run a lick.

What is of concern to me now though, is that several teams seem to have bridged (if not closed completely) the gap (perceived rightly or wrongly) to Denver. New England, Miami, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Kansas City and to a lesser extent, Baltimore and San Diego all look like they would have a legitimate shot at beating Denver right now.

Jolly Red Giant · 04-11-2014 1:44pm

poldebruin wrote: »

What is of concern to me now though, is that several teams seem to have bridged (if not closed completely) the gap (perceived rightly or wrongly) to Denver. New England, Miami, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Kansas City and to a lesser extent, Baltimore and San Diego all look like they would have a legitimate shot at beating Denver right now.

I regard that as a positive.

The reason why the Broncos were humiliated in the SB was because of the easy schedule last year.

No one is going to go the entire season without taking a beating once. The Pats were thumped 41-14 by the Chiefs earlier in the season. Playing the best teams and playing teams that are improving makes the Broncos a better team in the long run.

I said last week that I thought the Pats were at the peak of their potential - I don't think they will or can get any better this season. The Broncos have not played particularly well (they have played only one complete game) and there is still a lot of potential to improve over the second half of the season. I think the Broncos will become more formidable as the season goes on.

Areyouwell · 04-11-2014 2:44pm

So I was reading through the thread and I came across this nugget...

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

I said last week that I thought the Pats were at the peak of their potential - I don't think they will or can get any better this season.

Have you been in a coma for the last 14 years? Christ, everyone knows the Pats don't start hitting their stride until December. And any AFC team that has to get to the SB usually has to get through them. Did you miss them getting to the AFC title game last year with no WR corp and an invisible O line? And now you're writing them off. Wow! Such pomposity would give Broncos fans a bad name. On Sunday, Brady had what he didn't have in the AFC title game and we saw the difference. But here's what you should be worried about, if Brady gets to the postseason with a healthy Gronk & WR corp and if their O line continues to improve, then I think their opponents will be pretty much f****d.

poldebruin · 04-11-2014 3:41pm

...I read it that the Patriots have been playing just about as well as it is possible for a team to play the last 4 weeks. I think we can all agree that's true. Hardly pompous to say it is it?

It's also been mentioned a few times that we can fully expect to see them again at some point in the playoffs. That does not sound like writing them off to me.

Nope, the Patriots are looking good and the Broncos will need to play a lot better to beat them, but that said, as has been pointed out, the Broncos have not yet being playing up to their full potential. Whether it is ever realised is another matter.

Jolly Red Giant · 05-11-2014 10:09pm

Areyouwell wrote: »

Have you been in a coma for the last 14 years? Christ, everyone knows the Pats don't start hitting their stride until December. And any AFC team that has to get to the SB usually has to get through them. Did you miss them getting to the AFC title game last year with no WR corp and an invisible O line? And now you're writing them off. Wow! Such pomposity would give Broncos fans a bad name. On Sunday, Brady had what he didn't have in the AFC title game and we saw the difference. But here's what you should be worried about, if Brady gets to the postseason with a healthy Gronk & WR corp and if their O line continues to improve, then I think their opponents will be pretty much f****d.

Where did you get this nonsense from - what, in any comment I made, gave you the impression that I was writing the Pats off?

The Pats have been playing great football. Irrespective of what the Pats have done in the past I am of the opinion that the Pats are playing at a level that they are unlikely to improve on. I may be wrong and the upcoming weeks will determine if I am or not.

One thing I can say with confidence is that the Broncos have a lot of room for improvement and in my opinion they will improve significantly on both offence and defence over the rest of the season. Two things raise question marks - 1. There are still problems with the OL and that could come back to haunt the Broncos - 2. Some people suggest that there is a mentality issue wig the entire team when Manning makes mistakes (the bad snap in the SB and the int against the Pats). I think the first problem can be fixed and I actually don't buy the second.

Putin · 06-11-2014 7:58pm

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Where did you get this nonsense from - what, in any comment I made, gave you the impression that I was writing the Pats off?

I reckon that poster oh let me see, maybe they got it from here....

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

I said last week that I thought the Pats were at the peak of their potential - I don't think they will or can get any better this season.

Please explain, how is anyone supposed to interpret that? At best it seems like clear naivety, at worse, utter cockiness. I think everyone + the kitchen sink, knows how the Pats always come on form late in the season. Complete nonsense to write off, since they have been the most consistent team in the league since 2000.

Jolly Red Giant · 06-11-2014 8:49pm

Putin wrote: »

Please explain, how is anyone supposed to interpret that? At best it seems like clear naivety, at worse, utter cockiness. I think everyone + the kitchen sink, knows how the Pats always come on form late in the season. Complete nonsense to write off, since they have been the most consistent team in the league since 2000.

Putin - you appear to be reading what you want to read and not what is actually written.

For the past 4 games that Pats have been the best team in the NFL - in my opinion they will not get any better than they are now - that is an opinion. How the hell can you interpret that in such I way that I am 'writing off' the Pats?

If the Pats continue playing as they have been recently they could well win all their remaining games and go well into the play-offs.

If the Broncos do not improve and they meet the Pats again in the play-offs then the Pats will thump them again. While I do not think the Pats will improve from where they are now, I believe that the Broncos will improve and the next game will be a lot closer.

Now - can you politely get off the hobby-horse.

Putin · 07-11-2014 6:14pm

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Putin - you appear to be reading what you want to read and not what is actually written..

No. I stated what was actually written. By quoting exactly what you said.

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

For the past 4 games that Pats have been the best team in the NFL - in my opinion they will not get any better than they are now - that is an opinion. How the hell can you interpret that in such I way that I am 'writing off' the Pats?

If the Pats continue playing as they have been recently they could well win all their remaining games and go well into the play-offs.

If the Broncos do not improve and they meet the Pats again in the play-offs then the Pats will thump them again. While I do not think the Pats will improve from where they are now, I believe that the Broncos will improve and the next game will be a lot closer.

Now that imo, seems a lot more reasonable & logically compared to what you originally said.

Jolly Red Giant · 07-11-2014 11:38pm

Putin wrote: »

Now that imo, seems a lot more reasonable & logically compared to what you originally said.

Both statements are exactly the same - the second one just has a longer explanation to pacify a grumpy Pats fan on a typical hobby horse that Pats fans are notorious for jumping on.

eagle eye · 08-11-2014 12:28am

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Both statements are exactly the same - the second one just has a longer explanation to pacify a grumpy Pats fan on a typical hobby horse that Pats fans are notorious for jumping on.

Putin is a Saints fan and quit with your generalisations of Pats fans.

Jolly Red Giant · 08-11-2014 12:37am

eagle eye wrote: »

quit with your generalisations of Pats fans.

Pats fans are the one bunch that you can generalise about - touchy as f*ck.

eagle eye · 08-11-2014 12:48am

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Pats fans are the one bunch that you can generalise about - touchy as f*ck.

You are wrong./

Prefab Sprouter · 10-11-2014 12:57am

Lads well done on tonight! Raiders fan here, you gave us a serious lesson in game management tonight. Best of luck with the rest of the season

Jolly Red Giant · 14-11-2014 4:12pm

Broncos giving serious consideration to signing former Dolphin OG Incognito.

Jolly Red Giant · 14-11-2014 10:50pm

Champ Bailey will sign a one day contract with the Broncos on Tuesday and retire as a Bronco.

One of the best pros ever to play the game.

spiralism · 17-11-2014 4:44am

Agreed with the above.

On to the team, i don't know what the **** has happened to us. Same old **** though really, you punch us in the mouth and we curl up. This team hasnt recovered from Brady's bitchslap and is staring a wildcard in the face.

It's irrelevant though, this team is too soft, too flawed and too badly coached to make waves in the playoffs. One and done for sure and hopefully it'll be the end of the John Fox era, where we've wasted 3 years of having Manning. Hopefully we'll get a 4th with a coach who has a ****ing clue.

The Broncos are the knights of summer...and winter is coming.

Morrisseeee · 17-11-2014 9:25am

We're spiraling out of control spiralism !!
We need a comeback of patriot proportions to get back on track

PokeHerKing · 17-11-2014 12:40pm

spiralism wrote: »

Agreed with the above.

On to the team, i don't know what the **** has happened to us. Same old **** though really, you punch us in the mouth and we curl up. This team hasnt recovered from Brady's bitchslap and is staring a wildcard in the face.

It's irrelevant though, this team is too soft, too flawed and too badly coached to make waves in the playoffs. One and done for sure and hopefully it'll be the end of the John Fox era, where we've wasted 3 years of having Manning. Hopefully we'll get a 4th with a coach who has a ****ing clue.

The Broncos are the knights of summer...and winter is coming.

Lot of injuries and a lot of dropped passes. I agree with you on some level. Mostly in relation to coaching staff but still dont share your doomsday outlook. This team can still go deep.

Jolly Red Giant · 17-11-2014 1:02pm

Morrisseeee wrote: »

We're spiraling out of control spiralism !!
We need a comeback of patriot proportions to get back on track

The problems start and finish with the OL

The release of Beadles and the shift of Franklin and Clarke hasn't worked nor has anything to fix it since. The OL shifts worked last week because they were playing the Raiders - the Rams are actually a good football team.

If you can't run the ball then the defence can tee-off on blitzing Manning and keeping him off his game.

I would be astonished if the Broncos didn't sign Incognito this week (and they should have signed him last week because his value to the Broncos has just gone up big-time) and move Franklin back to RT.

The defence is very good (and Harris is having a Pro-Bowl year) and the offence is overflowing with talent - but if they can't get the OL working properly then they will not go close to getting to the SB.

spiralism · 17-11-2014 4:40pm

Morrisseeee wrote: »

We're spiraling out of control spiralism !!
We need a comeback of patriot proportions to get back on track

Don't be so deluded. After about the 10th time in the Fox era where we've been handed an ugly loss by a team playing us tough does it not become obvious that the same problems remain? When a likely 6/7 win team is beating you, you know the league is finding you out. Play us the way Jacksonville and Seattle did last year and we'll likely lose. The only playoff team in the AFC i think we're capable of beating in January is the Bengals, because they're the Bengals.

Jolly Red Giant · 17-11-2014 4:54pm

spiralism wrote: »

Don't be so deluded. After about the 10th time in the Fox era where we've been handed an ugly loss by a team playing us tough does it not become obvious that the same problems remain? When a likely 6/7 win team is beating you, you know the league is finding you out. Play us the way Jacksonville and Seattle did last year and we'll likely lose. The only playoff team in the AFC i think we're capable of beating in January is the Bengals, because they're the Bengals.

You are doing an injustice to the Rams spiralism. The Rams are a young and hungry - they have now beaten the Seahawks the 49ers and the Broncos. What they are is inconsistent and when Fisher sorts that out the Rams will be one of the best in the NFL.

The reason why the Broncos got bullied is because they couldn't run the ball. They couldn't run because the OL is in tatters and the Rams DL (which is very good) could just pin their ears back and go after Manning. When a D is capable of doing that any QB will have a torrid time. Fix the OL and fix the problem (and it looks like the best option to do that is signing Incognito and moving Franklin back to RT)

poldebruin · 02-12-2014 2:09pm

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/dangerous-denver-broncos-nfls-most-battle-tested-team/32239/

A positive story about Denver for a change recently. Just a reminder of how tough their schedule has been so far.

The Chiefs are always a tough out in KC and it was good to see Denver score on 7 possessions and were in complete control for the entire game.
It's certainly not the Offense we have come to expect from Denver recently, but it's positive that the OL were able to clear lanes and protect Manning against a good Chiefs front 7. The balanced approach will obviously help down the stretch as the weather is less conducive to passing.

I am a bit concerned about the shape of Manning's passes the last few weeks. I know his arm strength has diminished, but even the short throws are being rainbowed and take an age to arrive to the receiver. It seems much more pronounced than before. I wonder if there is a little injury or if fatigue has set in.

Jolly Red Giant · 02-12-2014 9:34pm

poldebruin wrote: »

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/dangerous-denver-broncos-nfls-most-battle-tested-team/32239/

A positive story about Denver for a change recently. Just a reminder of how tough their schedule has been so far.

The Chiefs are always a tough out in KC and it was good to see Denver score on 7 possessions and were in complete control for the entire game.
It's certainly not the Offense we have come to expect from Denver recently, but it's positive that the OL were able to clear lanes and protect Manning against a good Chiefs front 7. The balanced approach will obviously help down the stretch as the weather is less conducive to passing.

I am a bit concerned about the shape of Manning's passes the last few weeks. I know his arm strength has diminished, but even the short throws are being rainbowed and take an age to arrive to the receiver. It seems much more pronounced than before. I wonder if there is a little injury or if fatigue has set in.

I wouldn't worry about the game in KC - there was a swirling wind that was buffeting the ball all over the place.

There is an interesting development from the last two games - the Broncos have been far more effective running the ball with Virgil Green playing TE with Julius
Thomas sitting out the last two weeks. Thomas can't block while Green is one of the best in the NFL and while Green is nowhere as good as Thomas as a receiver he has shown that he can be effective. I am sure that Thomas will continue to play a role when he comes back from injury but I suspect his playing time might diminish in order to ensure the continuance of a balanced offence. Thomas could become primarily and third down and red zone threat. The impact of this is that the Broncos could let Thomas walk in FA and take the comp pick rather than pay hike top end TE money.

spiralism · 08-12-2014 12:54pm

Manning's form is getting increasingly worrying now, is it fair to ask if he has anything left at this stage?

JaMarcusHustle · 08-12-2014 1:46pm

spiralism wrote: »

Manning's form is getting increasingly worrying now, is it fair to ask if he has anything left at this stage?

You're just a parody of yourself now.

Honest question, what age are you?

Jolly Red Giant · 08-12-2014 10:07pm

spiralism wrote: »

Manning's form is getting increasingly worrying now, is it fair to ask if he has anything left at this stage?

Jaysus spiralism - have you ever made a comment on this thread that wasn't mired in pessimism :rolleyes:

spiritcrusher · 09-12-2014 5:20pm

spiralism wrote: »

Manning's form is getting increasingly worrying now, is it fair to ask if he has anything left at this stage?

How did you come to that conclusion?? Denver have been just running the ball very effectively in the last few games. Which if you want to go far in December and January is exactly what's needed. I would've thought the offence not being the Manning-show in the last few games is the best thing that could happen them. Run that rock right down defences throats.

Morrisseeee · 11-12-2014 8:52pm

I do agree with your first sentiment spiralingoutofcontrolism

Manning is a rhythm QB and he's, well, out of rhythm atm

:(

Having said that we are still winning and if he gets back into rhythm for the playoffs (should we make it) then all will be forgotten/forgiven.

The D is confusing, they're brilliant one minute and terrible the next, you get the felling we could stop on 3rd and 1 but fail on 3rd and 16 !!

We have a couple of injury worries to key players and I suppose if we (are good enough to) make it all the way to Foxboro (worst case scenario) then we definitely need to be firing on ALL cylinders or at full 'horse-power' to overcome that 'big' obstacle.

Speaking of the enemy! I'm really interested at Tom Terrific's demeanor atm, he's attitude is super aggressive, so........what drugs is he on ??!! :P

poldebruin · 13-12-2014 3:58am

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/12/broncos-extend-cornerback-chris-harris/

The Broncos have extended Chris Harris, 5yr $42.5m, $24m guaranteed. Well that's one less upcoming free agent to worry about. I like Harris, undrafted FA out of college, worked hard to make the team and has improved every year. He's currently the no.1 rated cornerback on PFF players ranking system. Hopefully will work out well as he is only 25 and seems to have a good attitude.

I have to agree with Spiralism, that there is a cause for concern over Manning's recent form now. Leaving the balance of the offense and the good play from the defensive side of the ball aside, he had his lowest QBR in a game in over 6 years last week. He has not surpassed 200 yards in 2 games in a row, and only Hoyer and Dalton have thrown more interceptions in the last 6 weeks (eight in that span). Even more worrying was the interceptions themselves, in particular the first in the Buffalo game, where he woefully underthrew Emmanual Sanders. If the arm strength is not there for whatever reason at this stage of the season, Manning is going to have to adapt his game again to account. (Cue 400 yard 5 TD performance against San Diego!)

Last thing.....god damn our schedule is tough this year. I remember talking about how it eased up after the Patriots game, but apart from 2 outings against Oakland we had/have:

@St. Louis (3-6)
Miami (6-4)
@Kansas City (7-4)
Buffalo (7-5)
@San Diego (8-5)
@ Cincinnati (8-4-1)

At the start of the year Denver's schedule was the second toughest on paper @ .570
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/115715/2014-nfl-strength-of-schedule
Leaving Oakland out of it, Denver opponent's actual winning percentage this year is .631 (103-65-1) and they will have played 12 games against teams with a winning record.

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