Dublin Airport New Routes 2016

Khuitlio · 01-09-2015 2:22pm #1

Seems like it's that time of year again! Thought we could keep a list of new routes for 2016 like last year.

So far:
Thomson : Cancún, Montego Bay
Ryanair: Amsterdam (4x Daily)
Ryanair: Increasd frequency on 14 existing routes
Ryanair: Twice weekly to Vigo
Blue Air: Twice weekly to Cluj-Napoca, Romania (CLJ)
SunExpress Weekly to Antalya.
EI: Dublin-Murcia 4 weekly
EI: Dublin-Pisa 3 weekly
EI: Dublin-Montpellier 2 weekly
EI: DUB-EWR from Sept 2016.
EI- DUB-BDL from Sept 2016.
EI: DUB-LAX 5 weekly from May 2016.
Air Canada Rouge: DUB-YVR 3 weekly
Stobart: Dublin-Carlisle

FR have planned an announcement for Dublin Airport on Thursday (03/09/2015), they have also apparently secured slots for AMS this winter for DUB and STN. I'd love to see AMS and some more Greek and German routes launched for S16, as FR seem to be expanding there.

I think this could be the year that QR arrive, with EI joining oneworld and EY reducing to daily they might be more interested in DUB now.

Just my 2cents

GekkePrutser · 01-09-2015 2:35pm

Khuitlio wrote: »

FR have planned an announcement for Dublin Airport on Thursday (03/09/2015), they have also apparently secured slots for AMS this winter for DUB and STN.

Wow, Ryanair at AMS?? I'd never have expected that, they wouldn't let them haggle on the handling charges like they do with small airports. I'd say the flights will be more expensive than the usual Ryanair fare but it'd give some nice competition to Air Lingus.

It makes sense though, now that their Aer Lingus acquisition plans are off the cards (which would have given them some slots). Looking forward to some more competition on this route.

Edit: I just read up on this, it seems like they've been requesting slots every year and given them back later, but this time they haven't given them back. Apparently they've got 2700 flight movements for the winter season which is a lot! I hope they'll do some from Shannon/Knock too.

L1011 · 01-09-2015 3:12pm

GekkePrutser wrote: »

Apparently they've got 2700 flight movements for the winter season which is a lot!

Its not. Its 8 or 9 slots a day.

If they want to try compete with Aer Lingus on DUB they need 4 or 5 daily there, ditto with Easyjet on STN. SNN/NOC would likely not be on their radar there even with no slot control as their expansion to major airports is to target competitive business traffic.

Lockheed · 01-09-2015 3:45pm

3 new regional routes opening up
Citywing : Derry-Dublin
Stobart : Carlisle-Dublin
Flybe: Norwich-Dublin

01-09-2015 4:08pm

Great thread idea, I was only starting to wonder about next year.

I don't think we will see Qatar in Dublin yet, with Etihad reducing slightly or tailoring as best they can capacity to demand with their few aircraft types, I can't see Qatar jumping in now for a while.

L1011 · 01-09-2015 4:09pm

Lockheed wrote: »

3 new regional routes opening up
Citywing : Derry-Dublin
Stobart : Carlisle-Dublin
Flybe: Norwich-Dublin

Absolutely none of these are guaranteed to start - they are still applications for funding, not granted funding. This isn't like the PSO process here where *someone* will operate the route and there's a beauty contest.

Lockheed · 01-09-2015 6:16pm

L1011 wrote: »

Absolutely none of these are guaranteed to start - they are still applications for funding, not granted funding. This isn't like the PSO process here where *someone* will operate the route and there's a beauty contest.

Uk Government investing 56 million £ on 15 new regional routes
http://www.airlive.net/2015/09/news-uk-government-to-fund-15-regional.html

Bussywussy · 01-09-2015 6:46pm

Cough* possible New Canada route *cough

L1011 · 01-09-2015 7:05pm

Lockheed wrote: »

Uk Government investing 56 million £ on 15 new regional routes
http://www.airlive.net/2015/09/news-uk-government-to-fund-15-regional.html

Still not confirmed. That's just rehashing a weeks old release of that routes that got to the second round.

Id be astounded if the Carlisle routes make it for starters

N64 · 01-09-2015 9:38pm

With Ryanair focusing on Nordic growth now, I'm guessing a DUB-GOT flight will be likely.

Lockheed · 01-09-2015 11:01pm

N64 wrote: »

With Ryanair focusing on Nordic growth now, I'm guessing a DUB-GOT flight will be likely.

I don't know,As far as I know Ryanair's previous Nordic flights to Dublin had low loadfactors and did not profit, they were axed

Jamie2k9 · 01-09-2015 11:08pm

Bussywussy wrote: »

Cough* possible New Canada route *cough

Have your head what I might have also!

If anybody has a subscription to the Sunday Business Post there was an article about Cathy Pacific looking at DUB last week.

Think we may see DY to ARN at some stage.

richiek83 · 01-09-2015 11:13pm

Business Post had an article on Sunday stating that Dublin Airport was in preliminary discussions with Cathay Pacific on a route to Hong Kong.

N64 · 01-09-2015 11:23pm

Lockheed wrote: »

I don't know,As far as I know Ryanair's previous Nordic flights to Dublin had low loadfactors and did not profit, they were axed

Just did a bit of searching and yeah, it appears it won't be this year at least.

https://twitter.com/Kenny_Jacobs/status/632225810024386561

JCX BXC · 01-09-2015 11:41pm

Will be interesting to see what FR come out with.
What will be even more.interesting is what fares we will be looking at if they come out with AMS!

Tedddy · 01-09-2015 11:43pm

Cathay Pacific to Hong Kong is a possibility.

JCX BXC · 01-09-2015 11:45pm

Tedddy wrote: »

Cathay Pacific to Hong Kong is a possibility.

As has been said several times before you.

Mylow · 01-09-2015 11:50pm

GekkePrutser wrote: »

Wow, Ryanair at AMS?? I'd never have expected that, they wouldn't let them haggle on the handling charges like they do with small airports. I'd say the flights will be more expensive than the usual Ryanair fare but it'd give some nice competition to Air Lingus.

It makes sense though, now that their Aer Lingus acquisition plans are off the cards (which would have given them some slots). Looking forward to some more competition on this route.

Edit: I just read up on this, it seems like they've been requesting slots every year and given them back later, but this time they haven't given them back. Apparently they've got 2700 flight movements for the winter season which is a lot! I hope they'll do some from Shannon/Knock too.

When Ryanair went to Zaventem the fares were lower than Charleroi (and still are). I really hope they do fly out of AMS to DUB. Cheapest weekend Aer Lingus fares on the route have been averaging €200.

Jamie2k9 · 01-09-2015 11:52pm

Mylow wrote: »

When Ryanair went to Zaventem the fares were lower than Charleroi (and still are). I really hope they do fly out of AMS to DUB. Cheapest weekend Aer Lingus fares on the route have been averaging €200.

You right about BRU you can get return with EI for under 80 on weekends....

Bussywussy · 02-09-2015 8:57am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Have your head what I might have also!

I'd say so.havent heard as to where.can only assume vancouver

02-09-2015 11:14am

Bussywussy wrote: »

I'd say so.havent heard as to where.can only assume vancouver

Either there or the previously planned short hop across to the east coast. Vancouver opens up a short drive to Seattle as well.

Tenger · 02-09-2015 11:23am

Carnacalla wrote: »

As has been said several times before you.

No need for the sharp answer, we all miss posts when reading threads.
I myself missed #13 when looking back over the thread before posting this

Blut2 · 02-09-2015 12:12pm

Cathay direct to HK would be fantastic for going to Asia. Direct flight there, then short hop anywhere in the region. Plus the high service quality.

Idbatterim · 02-09-2015 12:24pm

if Ryanair make an announcement this week, when would the new services or increased frequency on existing routes, likely commence?

LXFlyer · 02-09-2015 12:51pm

Winter timetables start at the end of October, and summer timetables start at the end of March, generally.

Tenger · 02-09-2015 2:06pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

if Ryanair make an announcement this week, when would the new services or increased frequency on existing routes, likely commence?

Ryanair are making an announcement tomorrow at Dublin Airport.
4-5 daily on DUB-AMS is expected, probalblt some STN-AMS as well.

Idbatterim · 02-09-2015 2:19pm

it would be great if these routes commence this year, to help the airport hit 25,000,000...

Razor44 · 02-09-2015 2:25pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

it would be great if these routes commence this year, to help the airport hit 25,000,000...

It's a rolling 12 mth period so they might help it over the mark anyway!

Jamie2k9 · 02-09-2015 2:44pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

it would be great if these routes commence this year, to help the airport hit 25,000,000...

Make no difference a full planning process must commence first I can't see a sod been turned until middle/late 2016 at earliest.

Idbatterim · 02-09-2015 4:11pm

Make no difference a full planning process must commence first I can't see a sod been turned until middle/late 2016 at earliest.

I take it they dont have to hit 25,000,000 before they apply for PP then, they can apply for it and once it hits 25,000,000 proceed with getting the ball rolling on construction, once they have PP that they are happy with? The growth at Dublin is massive, its going to be great having it as a decent size hub in a few years, I am dying for a direct Vegas flight!

Jamie2k9 · 02-09-2015 4:15pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

I take it they dont have to hit 25,000,000 before they apply for PP then, they can apply for it and once it hits 25,000,000 proceed with getting the ball rolling on construction, once they have PP that they are happy with? The growth at Dublin is massive, its going to be great having it as a decent size hub in a few years, I am dying for a direct Vegas flight!

They can apply whenever they like for permission will likely happen in a few months however that will take time and an appeals process could even be required. Then the project will need to be tendered so a long way off construction. 25 million will likely be hit sometime next year but I expect we will be closer to 30 million before a single jet lands on the new runway.

basill · 02-09-2015 6:21pm

Can't see IAG being happy with CX into Dublin. It would be much better for AL to fly East and feed into Cathay at HKG and take on the ME players. Kill two birds with one stone.

02-09-2015 6:32pm

basill wrote: »

Can't see IAG being happy with CX into Dublin. It would be much better for AL to fly East and feed into Cathay at HKG and take on the ME players. Kill two birds with one stone.

Flip that on its head, Aer Lingus flying into HK Cathays market. Think about it this way, Aer Lingus concentrates on what it's good at for the time being North America and let Cathay do what it's good at Asia and bring traffic into its own hub and feed passengers into Aer Linguss Dublin hub.

IF it was to happen, it could also be an extension of a UK route, they wouldn't need to worry about runway length (already done with Garuda into Gatwick via Amsterdam). Cathay would have the fleet resources available better than little old Aer Lingus.

MoeJay · 02-09-2015 6:50pm

Deleted User wrote: »

IF it was to happen, it could also be an extension of a UK route, they wouldn't need to worry about runway length (already done with Garuda into Gatwick via Amsterdam). Cathay would have the fleet resources available better than little old Aer Lingus.

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose..? Pax can already transfer at LHR etc etc so the rationale would have to support a direct route. Oneworld would provide CX codeshares all over the place on EI flights.

Good rumour though!

02-09-2015 6:56pm

MoeJay wrote: »

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose..? Pax can already transfer at LHR etc etc so the rationale would have to support a direct route. Oneworld would provide CX codeshares all over the place on EI flights.

Good rumour though!

Yes possibly, but who knows, I think personally they would struggle off 28 in a 330 or a 777. Maybe they are looking at potential destinations for their soon to be delivered 350 fleet.

L1011 · 02-09-2015 6:57pm

MoeJay wrote: »

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose..? Pax can already transfer at LHR etc etc so the rationale would have to support a direct route. Oneworld would provide CX codeshares all over the place on EI flights.

Good rumour though!

Would be same plane, likely no unloading. A lot more attractive than transferring at LHR

MoeJay · 02-09-2015 7:07pm

Well I suppose what I mean to say is if the idea is HKG-UK-DUB and vv. then the rationale of using the aircraft for those 2 short sectors when feed already exists has got to eat into the economics to a substantial degree. If it's only "topping up" the load on an existing route then what kind of revenue would have to be generated to offset the current connecting feed? That's why I'd see it as a direct route.

Apologies this is a bit OT.

man98 · 02-09-2015 7:28pm

Dublin Airport has stated a DUB - PEK route will be in place for 2016 and Paris Chalons Vatry (Disneyland) website says next year they will have an Irish connection, Ryanair into Dublin I would presume... What happened with the carriers who were meant to be reopening Plymouth and another meant to be flying to Norwich or somewhere? I assume they jumped the gun a bit? Not much more in the way of confirmed news.

BuffyBot · 02-09-2015 8:34pm

basill wrote: »

Can't see IAG being happy with CX into Dublin. It would be much better for AL to fly East and feed into Cathay at HKG and take on the ME players. Kill two birds with one stone.

BA and CX have a long and unhappy history. I doubt Cathay give two hoots what BA feel about any route they develop, and I wouldn't bet on IAG going outof their way to assist them

02-09-2015 9:00pm

man98 wrote: »

Dublin Airport has stated a DUB - PEK route will be in place for 2016 and Paris Chalons Vatry (Disneyland) website says next year they will have an Irish connection, Ryanair into Dublin I would presume... What happened with the carriers who were meant to be reopening Plymouth and another meant to be flying to Norwich or somewhere? I assume they jumped the gun a bit? Not much more in the way of confirmed news.

I would imagine that's Hainan airlines, they've been expanding quite rapidly internationally in the last 12 months.

man98 · 02-09-2015 11:01pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I would imagine that's Hainan airlines, they've been expanding quite rapidly internationally in the last 12 months.

The long running rumour is Air China... I suppose we won't know for another few months.

Aer Lingus TATL announcements are due this month too iirc.

Jamie2k9 · 02-09-2015 11:06pm

basill wrote: »

Can't see IAG being happy with CX into Dublin. It would be much better for AL to fly East and feed into Cathay at HKG and take on the ME players. Kill two birds with one stone.

They may not be happy but BA/CX have an agreement between them, not sure what the extend of it is though.

The long running rumour is Air China... I suppose we won't know for another few months.

Would prefer Air China or China Southeran than Hainan airlines but suppose any service is always a plus.

smurfjed · 03-09-2015 12:24am

Does Aer Lingus have any aircraft that can operated HKG-DUB (5318 NGMS) against the prevailing winds?

munchkin_utd · 03-09-2015 10:29am

only new route for Ryanair from Dublin is Amsterdam with 4x flights daily.

also "Extra flights on 14 routes: Alicante, Barcelona, Berlin, Birmingham, Brussels, Budapest, East Midlands, Liverpool, London Gatwick, Madrid, Malaga, Manchester, Venice Treviso, Warsaw"

http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/15903-dublin-summer-2016-schedule/?market=ie

for the increased frequency routes that leaves you with
Alicante 2 x daily
Liverpool 4 x daily
London Gat 6 x daily
Barcelona- 3 x daily
Madrid 3 x daily
Berlin 2 x daily
Malaga 3 x daily
Birmingham 6 x daily
Manchester 6 x daily
Brussels 3 x daily
Venice 5 x weekly
Budapest 9 x weekly
Warsaw 1 x daily
East Midlands 2 x daily

murphaph · 03-09-2015 11:38am

I'm liking the double daily to/from Berlin :-) With EI also on the route we'll have up to 4 flights a day now to DUB.

LXFlyer · 03-09-2015 11:46am

munchkin_utd wrote: »

only new route for Ryanair from Dublin is Amsterdam with 4x flights daily.

also "Extra flights on 14 routes: Alicante, Barcelona, Berlin, Birmingham, Brussels, Budapest, East Midlands, Liverpool, London Gatwick, Madrid, Malaga, Manchester, Venice Treviso, Warsaw"

http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/15903-dublin-summer-2016-schedule/?market=ie

for the increased frequency routes that leaves you with
Alicante 2 x daily
Liverpool 4 x daily
London Gat 6 x daily
Barcelona- 3 x daily
Madrid 3 x daily
Berlin 2 x daily
Malaga 3 x daily
Birmingham 6 x daily
Manchester 6 x daily
Brussels 3 x daily
Venice 5 x weekly
Budapest 9 x weekly
Warsaw 1 x daily
East Midlands 2 x daily

For comparative purposes, this summer the frequencies were:

Alicante 1 x daily + 3 weekly
Liverpool 3 x daily
Amsterdam - Not served
London Gat 5 x daily
Barcelona- 2 x daily
Madrid 2 x daily
Berlin 1 x daily
Malaga 2 x daily + 1 x 5 weekly
Birmingham 4 x daily
Manchester 4 x daily
Brussels 1 x daily + 1 x 6 x weekly + 1 x 3 weekly
Venice 3 x weekly
Budapest 1 x daily
Warsaw 6 x weekly
East Midlands 1 x daily

Locker10a · 03-09-2015 11:55am

lxflyer wrote: »

For comparative purposes, last winter the frequencies were:

Alicante 4 x weekly
Liverpool 3 x daily
Amsterdam - Not served
London Gat 5 x daily
Barcelona- 2 x daily + 1 x 2 weekly
Madrid 2 x daily
Berlin 1 x daily
Malaga 1 x daily + 1 x 4 weekly
Birmingham 4 x daily
Manchester 4 x daily + 1 x 2 weekly
Brussels 2 x daily + 1 x 4 x weekly
Venice Not served
Budapest 1 x daily
Warsaw 6 x weekly
East Midlands 1 x daily

The new announcement is for summer 16 not winter

5star02707 · 03-09-2015 12:18pm

me likey

dzilla · 03-09-2015 12:19pm

I wonder what is the 3rd flight to Malaga time wise. They only have 2 flights a day on the website at the moment

LXFlyer · 03-09-2015 12:23pm

Locker10a wrote: »

The new announcement is for summer 16 not winter

Apologies - have edited it!!

Corrections weren't that many in any case.

Pat Dunne · 03-09-2015 12:36pm

DUB/AMS starting October 27th, now that sounds like a plan.

Dublin Airport New Routes 2016

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