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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭moyners


    What date is the tender for demolition due to close? Prob won't see anything till after that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    Another white elephant?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    a few more site office containers are on the site. Otherwise, nada.

    Thanks. Is that not just site offices for the Capitol? There doesn't seem to be a site office on the capitol site.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭KCAccidental


    Thanks. Is that not just site offices for the Capitol? There doesn't seem to be a site office on the capitol site.

    Not sure, but BAM have said they are currently tendering for demolition work, which will take "weeks".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭P.lane78


    Not sure, but BAM have said they are currently tendering for demolition work, which will take "weeks".


    Well we all know that time seems to drag on, where the event centre is concerned http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/coveney-event-centre-to-start-in-a-month/1547714/
    Looking forward to the latest holding press release from our new Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government on this one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Michael..


    Anybody know what the deal with this is ? Really starting to doubt it at this stage. Feck all happening on site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Just reading the echo and they are saying it will happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Michael..


    ofcork wrote: »
    Just reading the echo and they are saying it will happen.

    Any inkling of a start date ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Any day!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,153 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Two weeks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Source?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,153 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    ofcork wrote: »
    Source?

    It's always two weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭opus


    ofcork wrote: »
    Source?

    Surely you don't think a local politician was telling an untruth as an election stroke?!

    COVENEY: EVENT CENTRE TO START IN A MONTH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Well I'm looking at it now and can't see any activity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    Was around there the other evening and watched a cherrypicker type device drive from the Capitol site up to the Brewery site to be parked up for the night.
    The site is certainly being used as a site office/equipment store for the Capitol. Whether any real work is being done on the event centre site, I really can't tell.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    I'm boring myself now on this topic but I'm astounded we're at this stage again. 3 months on from the sod-turning and zero to show for it. There is only so much of being told that it's 'all happening behind the scenes', 'very complicated project', etc. the public can take.
    I'm just going to assume we've been lied to by Fine Gael and the partners here. Looking on the brightside, it's a fine site for housing. Our new minister for housing will be delighted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,754 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    I'm boring myself now on this topic but I'm astounded we're at this stage again. 3 months on from the sod-turning and zero to show for it. There is only so much of being told that it's 'all happening behind the scenes', 'very complicated project', etc. the public can take.
    I'm just going to assume we've been lied to by Fine Gael and the partners here. Looking on the brightside, it's a fine site for housing. Our new minister for housing will be delighted.

    Wasn't there supposed to be a significant housing element in the brewery quarter plan?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭KCAccidental


    cgcsb wrote: »
    Wasn't there supposed to be a significant housing element in the brewery quarter plan?

    student accomodation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,754 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    That's good, providing purpose built student accommodation takes a large number of people out of the lower end of the private rented sector, which will decrease the competition for the poorest people seeking rented accommodation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    It's my understanding that the residential/accommodation section of the development is not being constructed at this time. Presumably, if the event centre ever gets built, the accommodation will come later.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    It's my understanding that the residential/accommodation section of the development is not being constructed at this time. Presumably, if the event centre ever gets built, the accommodation will come later.

    Jesus wept! This is turning into one hell of a fiasco. Where are our public representatives on this one. No shortage of them when the so called sod was turned on the project.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Cape Clear wrote: »
    Jesus wept! This is turning into one hell of a fiasco. Where are our public representatives on this one. No shortage of them when the so called sod was turned on the project.

    Now now. You'll be dismissed as a pessimist and doomsayer. Look you'll get the Events Centre soon enough. And by soon enough I mean probably never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭blow69


    opus wrote: »
    Surely you don't think a local politician was telling an untruth as an election stroke?!

    COVENEY: EVENT CENTRE TO START IN A MONTH

    THE first sod should be turned on the long-awaited event centre for Cork within a month.

    That’s the prediction of Government minister and Cork South Central TD, Simon Coveney, following delays to the €50m jewel in the crown of the €150m redevelopment of the old Beamish & Crawford brewery.



    Prediction? How about an actual tangible progress update on this Simon instead of a prediction. You can literally predict anything. That doesn't mean it will actually happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    I'm sorry to say but I think this has all the signs of something gone 'belly up'.
    Maybe the intention was there to begin with but despite all the predictions and start dates, this has obviously stalled.
    I think the taxpayer who has ploughed millions into this deserves to know what's wrong this time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭rebs23


    I'm sorry to say but I think this has all the signs of something gone 'belly up'.
    Maybe the intention was there to begin with but despite all the predictions and start dates, this has obviously stalled.
    I think the taxpayer who has ploughed millions into this deserves to know what's wrong this time.
    Taxpayer hasn't put any money into this yet. The millions so far has been spent by the developers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    rebs23 wrote: »
    Taxpayer hasn't put any money into this yet. The millions so far has been spent by the developers.

    The taxpayer has commited millions that could easily be spent elsewhere, not least in funding an event centre in Cork that could actually be built. An explanation is required.


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Michael..


    Given that this project is partly funded by the taxpayer they could at least inform us about what exactly is going on - be it positive or otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Just on the news there that the cba want to know when it's starting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭D'Agger


    ofcork wrote: »
    Just on the news there that the cba want to know when it's starting.
    It'd be nice if they reported that so do the majority of the county


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Saw trucks in there today some activity but again may just be related to the capitol.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    Saw today that they have blocks stacked in the open area on the river side of the building, but I'm guessing that they're using the area as an off site storage area for the Capitol job as the Event center isn't ready for any block work yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Michael..


    Unfortunately there's sweet feck all happening on the site. They're basically using it as storage / offices for The Capitol site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭CHealy


    The CBA requested an update this week and were told last night that planning was well under way and that contracts were still being signed. I could swear Iv heard all this before, or that work was due to start in three weeks, back in January, or that then it was definitely going to start after Easter. What a joke.


  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭WoolyJumper


    They are still signing contracts? I swear they have been signing those contracts for years now. You'd think Enda wouldn't have turned that "sod" until all the contracts were actually signed and it was a done deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭CHealy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Thought all the design was done and the financial aspects sorted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭CHealy


    "Contracts have all been signed"

    "Work beginning is a matter of weeks away"

    "Everyone on board and ready to go"


    How many more lies will we see until the inevitable headline "LIVE NATION PULL OUT OF EVENT CENTER"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    You mean politicians told lies during an election campaign....well I never!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Just to highlight the level of BS the public are being fed on this from last November http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/event-centre-works-to-start-by-christmas/1290395/

    "You could count the minor issues left on less than one hand."......... yeah, tell us another one Simon.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Just to highlight the level of BS the public are being fed on this from last November http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/event-centre-works-to-start-by-christmas/1290395/

    "You could count the minor issues left on less than one hand."......... yeah, tell us another one Simon.....

    People need to come clean on this now. Clearly everything was not in order at the launch. Clearly it is not in order now. Government ministers have been silent on this since the election. It served its purpose and now wiping hands of it. Evening Echo and Irish Examiner seem to be swallowing every half-truth un questioning. Who is asking the hard questions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The CEO of the Council is like Comical Ali at this stage. At the CBA event last night she said "The contracts, which are so complicated, all of that is progressing. Far more importantly, is that the detailed designs are being done". Apart from the patronising tone about the 'so' complicated contacts, they're only doing detailed design now!!! WTF has been going for the last couple of years? If they are only doing design now, then we were all being fed lies by Coveney and Co about the imminent start date. Disgusting carry on all for the sake of a few votes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The CEO of the Council is like Comical Ali at this stage. At the CBA event last night she said "The contracts, which are so complicated, all of that is progressing. Far more importantly, is that the detailed designs are being done". Apart from the patronising tone about the 'so' complicated contacts, they're only doing detailed design now!!! WTF has been going for the last couple of years? If they are only doing design now, then we were all being fed lies by Coveney and Co about the imminent start date. Disgusting carry on all for the sake of a few votes.

    Comical Ali.....brilliant!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭KCAccidental


    you just have to laugh at this stage. The sod turning was such a transparent election stunt, but local media still swallowed it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    I doubt anything hosted in this event centre could ever be as entertaining as the debacle that has gone on over the last few months and years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭opus


    you just have to laugh at this stage. The sod turning was such a transparent election stunt, but local media still swallowed it.

    Looks like the Echo is sort of agreeing with you :)

    Sod-Turning At Events Centre a ‘Cheap Stunt’


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Had a wander down there at lunchtime. Nothing but a site office/storage area for the Capitol. There were a couple of builders there doing some rebar work for the Capitol. Otherwise deserted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    Has the minister surfaced yet? For a guy who has staked his political reputation on this, he's awfully quiet these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    An interview with Simon Coveney in Wednesday's Irish Examiner. Not sure whether the Event Centre debacle will be dealt with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭D'Agger


    An interview with Simon Coveney in Wednesday's Irish Examiner. Not sure whether the Event Centre debacle will be dealt with.
    If the Examiner had any journalistic integrity they'd hammer him on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Probably told by his advisors not to ask any questions about it.


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