Pairc Ui Chaoimh re-development

mickyboy wrote: »

€22 million looks a bit more sensible. Was looking at the Evening Echo article which says €67m for PUC redevelopment.

Wonder if they will put in temporary bars/cafes outside the stadium before matches/concerts. I find that most people go down there last minute as there's nowhere to get a drink or snack directly outside the stadium

They should definitely do something like that - make that whole area into a place with cafes and bars and connect it with the Atlantic pond as well - then have regular events in pairc ui chaoimh (gigs) as well as matches and the place would be buzzing. Sounds easy but not that easy in practice I guess

CHealy wrote: »

I'm really sorry there now, but Turners Cross is the best League of Ireland stadium, and probably the best local football stadium on the island. Only Turners Cross and the Aviva are all covered, all seated. You have an abundance of pubs around the ground, food can be easily got inside the ground, very clean toilet facilities, comfortable seat with a great view of what can only be described as a snooker table of a pitch, and a great athmosphere at most games.

What more do you want, there is literally, nothing more Cork City can do to get people to games.

A stupid, lazy comment it has to be said.

Fair enough, thanks for the correction. I've never been there so was basing it on what I'd seen on TV. It sounds like quite a bit of work has been done to the ground.

Fianna Fowl wrote: »

Most people going to games in Croke Park take the luas, Dart or bus to the city centre and then walk. Croke Park is outside the Canals and i was illustrating that the distance involved in walking from the transport hubs in Dublin to Croke Park is similar to those in Cork walking to the Pairc.

But theres more of them, thats the point. You have 3 viable options to get you within a reasonable distance to Croke park, in Cork you've to get the 202 to Ballintemple/Victoria Road/Blackroad Road and walk, the 210's closest stop is somewhere near Ballinlough afaik.

Anyway, if they can put in place a better solution to moving people to and from the venue it will work alot better no matter what the capacity.

When does this redevelopment supposedly start?

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Aidan Walsh is also top drawer should he ever opt for the short ball game. He's from a football stronghold too.

Walsh's club is Kanturk which is hurling country. You'd have to go further south towards Millstreet/Macroom for football territory.

Article Jan 8, 2014

Cork County Board decision on Páirc Uí Chaoimh planning due in a week
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/cork-county-board-decision-on-pairc-ui-chaoimh-planning-due-in-a-week-254593.html

Haven't heard anything further.

On a good note, the GAA have announced they are now fully debt free
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2014/0204/502195-bumper-gaa-year-clears-croke-park-debt/

Do you think anyone will play there this summer, Garth Brooks maybe

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Do you think anyone will play there this summer, Garth Brooks maybe

As mad as it sounds, I wouldn't be surprised if two of the dates had to be moved due to licensing issues from the local residents objections.

Now, I'd rather put a mixture of epoxy and wasps in my ears than listen to his music, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to move some of the concerts around to some other large GAA venues.

lertsnim wrote: »

After the disaster of last years crowd management I hope nobody plays there again until it is redeveloped.

I never realised sheer stupidity could be so dangerous.

They never opened the 2nd exit in the Showgrounds until the Gardai insisted. Absolutely crazy. 2 gates instead of 1 and it wasn't opened, created a dangerous bottleneck.

Also, they stopped people exiting by the Atlantic Pond which was ridiculous, 95% of the crowd was sober as it took about 1/2 hour to get a drink and if they were worried about people falling into the pond, a couple of hundred barriers and about 15 stewards would have more than done the trick. If this was opened it would have reduced the numbers going into the Showgrounds significantly.

It was moronic the whole thing.

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

The Cork GAA Board has announced that Cork City Council has approved planning permission for the board's €70 million redevelopment of Páirc Uí Chaoimh Source

Saw that, is it subject to appeal ?

Surprised they announced it during the local election run up

CHealy wrote: »

Its the redevelopment of the main stand, plus a bit of an astro pitch out the back. Waste of 70 million when they could have levelled the kip and built a nice big modern stadium.

Well said.

An all seater,all covered would have been the job.Look at the Juventus stadium built for €105 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juventus_Stadium

This is a bit of a conspiracy theory.. but lots of people have been wondering why they needed a centre of excellence there, where space might be at a premium.

Well, their original plans were to have a hotel adjoining the stadium which were refused. If the adjoining land were to be used for the Marina Park (that's why it was originally CPO'ed from the MAS in the first place), there isn't a hope in hell the GAA would ever be able to get that land back in order to build a hotel on it. But, if it were to be used for a 2nd pitch / centre of excellence, then in 15...20 years time no one would be too bothered if they wanted to build a stadium on one of their own pitches.

God knows why Cork needs a 45000 capacity stadium.

A top class 30,000-35,000 seater would do grand.

clerk wrote: »

That's a very interesting post but do you mean to say in your final point that "no one would be too bothered if they wanted to build a hotel on one of their own pitches" ?

The GAA wanted to build a hotel right next to the stadium, but were denied. If that land (or part of it) had been used as part of the public Marina Park, there isn't a hope in hell they'd ever be able to buy it and build there. There would be public uproar at public parkland being taken away. But if the land is used for extra pitches/training facilities now, then in a few years time people would be much less bothered if the GAA wanted to convert some of their own property from training facilities into a hotel.

i.e. they could be using the centre of excellent to 'reserve' the land until some time in the future when they could get planning permission for the hotel. If I were devious, that's what I'd do. :P

I wouldn't be surprised if in 10/15/20 years time they extended the new stand around the back of one of the goals replacing one of the terraces or built a new stand opposite it. This plan looks like a phase 1 in a very long term plan. I'm sure it will be designed with this in mind.