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Your favourire Conspiracy Theory

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,532 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    We could do a load of backhander / jobs for the boys ones but the liable laws here preclude it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Border-Rat


    That Martin McGuinness was a MI5 agent and helped bring down the IRA from the inside while being on the Army Council.

    Is that why IRA efficiency increased 800% prior to negotiations?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 305 ✭✭Jimminy Mc Fukhead


    Dancor wrote: »
    I heard from an ex MI5 employee


    It's great when you get one of those ex MI5 employees blabbing after a few beers. They can't keep their mouths shut at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Biggins wrote: »
    There's two that I come across occasionally.

    One: about the buried Alaska pyramid that USA is keeping secret

    Search ''Powerplant at Giza'' After watching those videos you'd have to say to yourself there's no fuhken way........



    http://www.gizapower.com/Articles.htm


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭spankysue


    I don't believe in any conspiracy theories out there, because they sound crazy and usually the people that have told me about them have been quite vunerable, not stupid, but fairly gullible.

    One person I know thinks he's living in an episode of the X Files, he thinks the US Government are reading texts on his phone and truly believes in the New World Order and all that jazz. I just have no time for that kind of sh1te.

    I think conspiracy theories are started by people who want to feel important by thinking that they know something nobody else knows but there's no real, legitimate proof out there to back any of them up.....because if there was proof, they wouldn't still be called conspiracy theories....they'd be called facts :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    spankysue wrote: »
    I don't believe in any conspiracy theories out there, because they sound crazy and usually the people that have told me about them have been quite vunerable, not stupid, but fairly gullible.

    One person I know thinks he's living in an episode of the X Files, he thinks the US Government are reading texts on his phone and truly believes in the New World Order and all that jazz. I just have no time for that kind of sh1te.

    I think conspiracy theories are started by people who want to feel important by thinking that they know something nobody else knows but there's no real, legitimate proof out there to back any of them up.....because if there was proof, they wouldn't still be called conspiracy theories....they'd be called facts :)

    Not believing there are conspiracies to cheat, lie, defraud and manipulate people in general is mental. Everything from what exactly is going into your mince meat to secret government deals and surveillance are questionable and relevant.
    Surveillance is a huge sector in the US. It has absolutely exploded as an industry post 9-11 and continues to do so pretty exponentially.
    Gullible people will buy into them and all the lizard people crap and that's how authorities except people to react to craziness. Disbelief and disinterest, and it works.
    I wouldn't put much thought into the utterly ridiculous but there are a lot of political and business conspiracies that function as part of every day life all over the world.. I'm sure there are some pretty out there thing too. You don't need to read too much about the likes of the CIA before you start getting a seriously unhinged vibe.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,532 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Border-Rat wrote: »
    Is that why IRA efficiency increased 800% prior to negotiations?
    800%, 800 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcjJ8cNVzmc

    Fluoridation of the Irish Water Supply - Mass Medication of a Dangerous toxin.

    (+ every toothpaste has it but no, its a mind control serum.. keeps us all from protesting)


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭spankysue


    Shryke wrote: »
    Not believing there are conspiracies to cheat, lie, defraud and manipulate people in general is mental. Everything from what exactly is going into your mince meat to secret government deals and surveillance are questionable and relevant.
    Surveillance is a huge sector in the US. It has absolutely exploded as an industry post 9-11 and continues to do so pretty exponentially.
    Gullible people will buy into them and all the lizard people crap and that's how authorities except people to react to craziness. Disbelief and disinterest, and it works.
    I wouldn't put much thought into the utterly ridiculous but there are a lot of political and business conspiracies that function as part of every day life all over the world.. I'm sure there are some pretty out there thing too. You don't need to read too much about the likes of the CIA before you start getting a seriously unhinged vibe.

    I never said I don't believe in golden handshakes ;)

    Secret government deals etc probably do happen, it's more the crazy stuff that I have no belief in, the moon landing one especially annoys me.

    As for the US government surveillance, maybe it does happen, to someone who's actually living in the States though, not some randomer in Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Malibu Sunshine


    The Supressed Technology theory is one Ive always believed in

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories#Suppression_of_technologies


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    spankysue wrote: »
    I never said I don't believe in golden handshakes ;)

    Secret government deals etc probably do happen, it's more the crazy stuff that I have no belief in, the moon landing one especially annoys me.

    As for the US government surveillance, maybe it does happen, to someone who's actually living in the States though, not some randomer in Ireland.

    Should read the T&Cs on some smartphone apps. Seriously, we've had foreign intelligence services monitoring calls since the late eighties in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Shryke wrote: »
    Not believing there are conspiracies to cheat, lie, defraud and manipulate people in general is mental. Everything from what exactly is going into your mince meat to secret government deals and surveillance are questionable and relevant.
    Surveillance is a huge sector in the US. It has absolutely exploded as an industry post 9-11 and continues to do so pretty exponentially.
    Gullible people will buy into them and all the lizard people crap and that's how authorities except people to react to craziness. Disbelief and disinterest, and it works.
    I wouldn't put much thought into the utterly ridiculous but there are a lot of political and business conspiracies that function as part of every day life all over the world.. I'm sure there are some pretty out there thing too. You don't need to read too much about the likes of the CIA before you start getting a seriously unhinged vibe.
    Yeh we should question things for sure, but the really wacky stuff is another plain entirely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭spankysue


    squod wrote: »
    Should read the T&Cs on some smartphone apps. Seriously, we've had foreign intelligence services monitoring calls since the late eighties in Ireland.

    So if we've seriously had this then, surely you have proof?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Ilikeyourcow


    Shryke wrote: »
    The most widely accepted scenario with regard to JFK is that it was a CIA hit. Not too much of a conspiracy about it, the more you read.
    There was an Irish guy who found some evidence with regards to Robert Kennedy's death. I might even have read about it on here. I'll see if there's a vid to find.. here we are.
    BBC's newsnight did a special on it. Well worth a watch. It implicates the agents involved with JFKs death also.


    I watched a show last night that said the Mob killed JFK and they had an ex prisoner on who claimed to know all about it and that Lee harvey oswald was meant to hqve been killed by police so the Mob got to him before he could talk!!

    It was on discovery science and was very interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor




    It's great when you get one of those ex MI5 employees blabbing after a few beers. They can't keep their mouths shut at all.

    ****er was sober at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Ilikeyourcow


    My top 3 conspiracy theories would be:

    9/11: did a plane hit the pentagon, were the towers demolished from within, was it an excuse to start a war for oil?? So many questions

    Nazi ufos: hitler was working on special flying projects but after the war the us took many of the scientists to work for them and two years ago ww2 ended Roswell happened and so the craze!!

    Jesus! With evidence of new bibles etc who was he really?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    spankysue wrote: »
    I never said I don't believe in golden handshakes ;)

    Secret government deals etc probably do happen, it's more the crazy stuff that I have no belief in, the moon landing one especially annoys me.

    As for the US government surveillance, maybe it does happen, to someone who's actually living in the States though, not some randomer in Ireland.

    I'm not talking about a bit of bribery, I'm talking about conspiracies.
    Research the surveillance industry if you like, instead of outright denying it. You've not got a whole lot of facts. Google is your friend.
    Madam_X wrote: »
    Yeh we should question things for sure, but the really wacky stuff is another plain entirely.

    Wacky stuff isn't a great definition. Everyone will draw that line somewhere else. Lizard people and stuff is more than wacky imo. Total other kettle of fish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭spankysue


    Shryke wrote: »
    I'm not talking about a bit of bribery, I'm talking about conspiracies.
    Research the surveillance industry if you like, instead of outright denying it. You've not got a whole lot of facts. Google is your friend.


    I just honestly think it makes no sense for any foreign government to be spying on your average person here, not saying the US government isn't spying on their own citizens, but why would they be getting out of spying on anyone here? It's an utterly ridiculous notion imo, makes no sense, and if something doesn't make sense, it usually means it's not true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    spankysue wrote: »
    I just honestly think it makes no sense for any foreign government to be spying on your average person here, not saying the US government isn't spying on their own citizens, but why would they be getting out of spying on anyone here? It's an utterly ridiculous notion imo, makes no sense, and if something doesn't make sense, it usually means it's not true.

    I'm guessing you haven't looked much up on this yet. I'm not looking to convince you. It happens.
    A lot of it isn't the government themselves. Private organizations contracted to government do most, and do it globally. It's a gigantic sector. It's an international community we live in. The world hasn't been inward looking for a long time. It doesn't mean someone reads all of your messages, it means they are monitored for phrases and words, and they're processed. It means a lens can be turned on you, not that one is constantly on you. Anti-terrorism is the phraseology, but the criteria is open to abuse.
    It's the world we live in. Flying robotic drones blow up people based on this stuff.

    It's easy to sound like a nut when you start talking about this stuff but it's all very real. It won't ever effect most people so they won't ever know or care but it's insidious at the same time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Operation Northwoods was a fairly diabolical plan. It never came to pass but it just shows the mindsets of some of those involved with espionage and intelligence.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
    The plan called for U.S. personnel to disguise themselves as agents of the Cuban government and to engage in terrorist attacks on the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay. It also called for terrorist attacks within the United States that would be conducted by pro-U.S. forces disguising themselves as Cuban agents.

    One of the most fascinating aspects of Operation Northwoods involved the proposed hijacking of an American passenger plane. The JCS proposed that a real plane containing American passengers would be hijacked by friendly forces disguised as Cuban agents. The plane would drop down off the radar screen and be replaced by a pilotless aircraft, which would crash, purportedly killing all the passengers. Under the plan, the real passenger plane would be secretly flown back to the United States

    Another one is NSSM 200, a security study overseen by Henry Kissinger which suggested using food (or the lack of it) as a weapon and means to further the US agenda.

    Kissenger btw is still involved in groups such as Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission.. but make of that what you will! He's a truly reprehensible scumbag in my own opinion. His involvement in globalist groups, I'm sure; doesn't help to convince people that they're benevolent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    The world really ended on the 21st of December , the government just covered it up


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,532 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    spankysue wrote: »
    So if we've seriously had this then, surely you have proof?
    http://cryptome.org/jya/gchq-etf.htm

    tower built to intercept the microwave link that carried phone calls, the irony is that it came to light because it was on BNFL land and people were worried about a new nuclear facility being built on their doorstep


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    a credit card for everyone and every transaction traced.

    Big Brother state on steroids. Would destroy all small business, individuality, artists, bands, buskers etc. Nightmare.

    It would make crime worse as people would trade organs and sex for drugs.

    Only people who would love it would be Governments and massive corporations.

    Death of all culture.
    Why wouldn't they just barter? Or do what dem high class hookers do and buy a "gift" from a boutique that gives cash back on returns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    Princess Di
    The Moon Landing
    and JFK would all be up there for me

    But the daddy of them all has to be 9/11

    and more specifically this


    Tbh I was slightly sceptical about the world trade center falling, I mean there has to be a reason why the sprinklers never worked, though planting explosives leading up to the tragedy is a bit far fetched because surely someone would of caught them doing so, it doesn't take hours to do that, it would take at least a year to do so per tower


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    Though I am thinking that the assassination of JFK is something to do with the CIA, I find it incredulous that they haven't found out to this very day, I really can't believe the Lee Harvey Oswald was the only gunman behind it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    The U.S Government being responsible for 9/11, in order to bring in stricter measures of control has to take the biscuit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,318 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    The Hum. Not so much a conspiracy theory. It's just weird

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    9/11 was an inside job.

    Because holding that belief is a strong litmus test for how gullible a person can be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,784 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    A couple from the world of GAA...

    Legendary Kerry football manager Mick O'Dwyer is the father of former great Maurice Fitzgerald.

    Dublin's Jason Sherlock's (Jayo) father was a priest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    I was really into conspiracy theories when I was younger but I find most fall like a house of cards when you look into the actual evidence and see the lack of logic behind them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    spankysue wrote: »
    I just honestly think it makes no sense for any foreign government to be spying on your average person here, not saying the US government isn't spying on their own citizens, but why would they be getting out of spying on anyone here? It's an utterly ridiculous notion imo, makes no sense, and if something doesn't make sense, it usually means it's not true.

    If you read a blog such as Techdirt for example, you start to get a picture of just how much the citizens of the United States and probably others are being spied on. Here are some examples:

    http://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=cia
    http://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=spying

    One from Germany.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,532 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Daniel O'Donnell is Margo's son


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Daniel O'Donnell is Margo's son

    Everyone knows Daniel is Jim Morrison in disguise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    squod wrote: »
    Everyone knows Daniel is Jim Morrison in disguise.

    Jim Morrison was a pawn of the CIA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Jim Morrison was a pawn of the CIA.

    What a job. In your face tax paying americans. He spent your money breaking laws, getting high and shaggin' burds. Then took early retirement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭kingoffifa


    9/11 was an inside job.

    Because holding that belief is a strong litmus test for how gullible a person can be.

    That is a bit harsh. Plenty of questions to be answered on that one to be fair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Fox_In_Socks


    squod wrote: »
    Everyone knows Daniel is Jim Morrison in disguise.

    "Hello, I love you, won't you make me some tea?"


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,532 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    kingoffifa wrote: »
    That is a bit harsh. Plenty of questions to be answered on that one to be fair.
    The big one is how did the American public let this happen
    According to an analysis by the budget expert Linda Bilmes and the economist Joseph Stiglitz, in the ten years since 9/11, the combined direct and indirect costs of the U.S. response to the murder of almost 3,000 of its citizens have totaled more than $3 trillion. A study by the Urban Institute, a nonpartisan think tank, estimated that during an overlapping period, from 2000 to 2006, 137,000 Americans died prematurely because they lacked health insurance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭kingoffifa


    The big one is how did the American public let this happen

    No conspiracy there - this guy would be at the root of it. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    There is some good ones about the Lockerbie bombings .


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 890 ✭✭✭CrinkElite




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    Coca Cola is mass produced to rule the world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,021 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    The burger/bun one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    doddly wrote: »
    That the FIFA game is scripted

    It is! What other possible reason is there for me losing games?


  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭Clondalphian


    Smidge wrote: »
    Coca Cola is mass produced to rule the world

    A local Sinn Fein politician once told me that Coca-Cola was funding international terrorism


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭bluecode


    No one mentioned my favourite: Chemtrails. The idea that those airliners flying overhead leaving vapour trails are actually spraying us with something for some reason. It's proably the least plausible conspiracy theory ever but that doesn't stop them. When I commented on a youtube video which supposedly shows an Air France plane spraying Wexford. What have the French got against us? It got scary pretty quickly. I was accused of being part of the conspiracy. (If only:D) I was beginning to worry he might turn up on my doorstep.

    But then again maybe he has a point. How else do we explain people like Run to da hills and others on this thread?:cool: Look to the skies!

    More seriously it has been recently suggested that people who believe in conspiracy theories tend to have elevated dopamine levels. Makes a lot of sense. But then again, how did their dopamine level get raised. Must be something in the water!

    The reality is that most conspiracy theories fall apart after five minutes with Google. As for the moon landings, if they were faked. Why did they fake so many? One would have done the job. That's the biggest flaw in that conspiracy theory unless you count the fact that someone recently took pictures of the landing site.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Flesh Gorden


    Channel 200 (controversial tv) on Sky has some mental ideas, if you ever need to feel normal turn that channel on for about 10 mins.


    I love film related Conspiracy Theories.
    Or in other words ones that are only a bit of fun and which do not take over your life.

    My favourite being that Decker in Blade Runner was a replicant himself.

    And even though it was removed for this very reason, I like to pretend that the footage during the end credits of Apocalypse Now was the air strike being called in.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,532 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/07/heart-drug-makes-people-less-racist-study_n_1328122.html
    Researchers in Britain have found that a common drug called propranolol does in fact change the hearts of those who take it. While effectively lowering blood pressure in heart disease patients, the medication was found to lower "implicit" racist attitudes as well.
    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00213-012-2657-5
    Our results indicate that β-adrenoceptors play a role in the expression of implicit racial attitudes suggesting that noradrenaline-related emotional mechanisms may mediate negative racial bias.



    They'll be adding it to teh water next


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