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Livestock/General Farming photo thread ***READ MOD NOTE IN POST #1***

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    weefarmer wrote: »
    Jeez i'd love to have lovely stock like that to sell!
    The 2 bucket calves I got back in march have done good enough but my neighbour said the last day that I will not get very much more than €250-300 each for them!
    I have kept record of their cost and they are costing around €310-320 for everything but excluding my own time.
    I wonder should I cut my losses now or winter them and see how they do
    i have to laugh at some peoples guesstimates of prices... the way prices are going you have to make money... my neighbour bought an angus pb bull off michael o learys herd in june for €1500 , they want to sell him now and was told she would be lucky to get €1100:eek: , he is 20 months old now , i reckon they would get 1700, if you dont ask you dont get


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    Lovely quality cattle Reilig and Karen,

    Please see attached (if attached )terrible picture as evening was so bad but this is a BYU heifer calf out of a red lim cow that im between minds on keeping on, will get better picture some fine evening!

    [url]Http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7987/blackbb.jpg[/url]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Had a 15 month old heifer with pnumonia this evening. Warm wet days for the last week seem to be the cause. Had the vet out. Hopefully she will be ok.


  • Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭weefarmer


    [/QUOTE]
    i have to laugh at some peoples guesstimates of prices... the way prices are going you have to make money... my neighbour bought an angus pb bull off michael o learys herd in june for €1500 , they want to sell him now and was told she would be lucky to get €1100:eek: , he is 20 months old now , i reckon they would get 1700, if you dont ask you dont get[/Quote]

    Hmm thats another way to look at it, I might try them at a mart and see, only reason I belive him is because he does be at marts selling often and is always very close with his guesstimate to what they actually sell for!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 shot_ov_a


    Karen112 wrote: »
    Now you have me guessing at where you live:eek:! Leitrim all looks the same!

    mucklaghan at a guess id say is the lake


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    Powerful stock there folks. The sort of stock everyone should aim for. A good one won't eat any more than a bad one!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    i have to laugh at some peoples guesstimates of prices... the way prices are going you have to make money... my neighbour bought an angus pb bull off michael o learys herd in june for €1500 , they want to sell him now and was told she would be lucky to get €1100:eek: , he is 20 months old now , i reckon they would get 1700, if you dont ask you dont get[/Quote]

    Hmm thats another way to look at it, I might try them at a mart and see, only reason I belive him is because he does be at marts selling often and is always very close with his guesstimate to what they actually sell for![/QUOTE]
    same as the fella who told my friend that, they couldnt lie straight in bed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    Two sides to every tale!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Bigbird1


    reilig wrote: »
    I sold this lady in Elphin this week:

    picture.php?albumid=1565&pictureid=10836

    Born on May 22. Off SFL and a Limousin cow. Weighed 250kg. Got €990 for her. Picture isn't great, but it shows the end that a BB can develop in 4 months. It also shows how wet and heavy my land was 2 weeks ago - they were taken off it that day and won't be back on it till this weekend. Sold this heifer because I didn't think she was good enough quality for breeding - she is a bit low. Have an identical heifer with a taller frame that I had planned on keeping for breeding but at those prices, I might let her go too.

    Near 4 euro/kg,super price, who bought her do ya know??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Bugger. I thought you were doing well till I saw the last picture.
    Bizzum wrote: »
    Two sides to every tale!!!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Bigbird1 wrote: »
    Near 4 euro/kg,super price, who bought her do ya know??

    Haven't a clue. Wasn't there myself


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    reilig wrote: »
    Bugger. I thought you were doing well till I saw the last picture.

    The pocket is €260 lighter but I'm consoling myself with the fact that both heifer and calf are alive and well. It could go the other was as easy and the bill would still have to be paid!
    The min I handled her I knew the calf was not coming out route one, and the vet didn't take long to draw the same conclusion.
    Once they go ahead that's the main thing, and if it was Feb or Mar and the sheds full of stock it would be worse too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Pat the lad


    Bizzum wrote: »
    Two sides to every tale!!!!!!!!!!


    at least their alive and well.
    fine cow. thought she should be able to push that calf out herself?? although photo might not show the true size of the calf. what bull is the calf after?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Bizzum wrote: »
    Two sides to every tale!!!!!!!!!!

    That is truth. Thankfully we've only ever had two sections (now I'll be plagued with them after saying that) and both were off the same cow, actually a VDC half sister of the brown and white bull's dam. It just pay's to breed our own, if we know that a dam is hard calved, we don't keep a replacement unless she has a tiangle (hard to explain but I'll try) A proper cow to calve (how we think on this farm anyway) should be fed correctly, and have an even triangle in width between pin bone, flank and top back leg joint. I'd have to explain it in picture detail to show what I mean:confused:
    I can say that this (taken 8/9 years ago, so hence the bad photo) is our ideal cow for marginal land. Although that blue heifer is still breeding over in Sligo!
    img00010201110132138.jpg

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    at least their alive and well.
    fine cow. thought she should be able to push that calf out herself?? although photo might not show the true size of the calf. what bull is the calf after?

    The calf is a bull calf, calved at 295 days to the AI bull Ambertaine Brigadeer (ABI). The AI man forgot to bring the private flash with straws of FL22, nonetheless it's not a monster of a calf. For some reason the heifer (Off our own CH bull from a CH/FR cow) is narrow and tight to handle ................But not to look at. I can't really explain it because to look at the heifer is a big powerful heifer, but to handle, she's tight as an otters pocket!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭13spanner


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    Case 895xl we wrap with. The number plate is 100% legal, I swear! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    Bizzum wrote: »
    The calf is a bull calf, calved at 295 days to the AI bull Ambertaine Brigadeer (ABI). The AI man forgot to bring the private flash with straws of FL22, nonetheless it's not a monster of a calf. For some reason the heifer (Off our own CH bull from a CH/FR cow) is narrow and tight to handle ................But not to look at. I can't really explain it because to look at the heifer is a big powerful heifer, but to handle, she's tight as an otters pocket!

    in the 1st pic i can't help noticing she a little fleshy. any chance she was still too fat at calving time? She a fine lookin animal all the same,hope all goes smooth from her on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭13spanner


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    in the 1st pic i can't help noticing she a little fleshy. any chance she was still too fat at calving time? She a fine lookin animal all the same,hope all goes smooth from her on.

    I agree. She has flesh, Nothing outrageous though but probably a shake too much. She was confined to that tiny paddock you can see in the pic the last 6 weeks on hay. The calf is thinish too. I take your point though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    A few incalf heifers. 2 Limx (The red one by Jaguar) and 1 BlondeX (By Landais). Calving in the spring to the Lim FL 22.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    in the 1st pic i can't help noticing she a little fleshy. any chance she was still too fat at calving time? She a fine lookin animal all the same,hope all goes smooth from her on.

    I'd disagree. Loose skin behind her shoulder means she's not filled out with feed. I'd just say she was too wide around the pelvic area (as in measure around the heifer just above the elder) I've just noticed that a lot of our heifers that look 'light' to calve, generally have bigger calves then those that are slung more in towards the elder area....I'm not saying anything bad about your heifer Bizzum, she looks a fine heifer in the first photo:confused: Bad luck on ya though, hope the calf turns out a smasher ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭13spanner


    Clearing hazel and scrub in the winterages. The Deere was almost lost inside in it :D
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    ***DISCUSSION THREAD FOR THIS POST***



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭redzerologhlen


    Any chance this thread could be made sticky. It seems to pop up every few days anyway and has become very popular. Its a bit of a nuisance to go looking for it when you want it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Bizzum wrote: »
    A few incalf heifers. 2 Limx (The red one by Jaguar) and 1 BlondeX (By Landais). Calving in the spring to the Lim FL 22.


    Ooooooh.....are they fed? They look like they are but I'm only getting into blondes this year!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    This heifer here is a comrade of the one above that we sectioned. Both are the one age,(30mths), both by our own CH bull, both had Lim Bull calves.
    I calved this heifer a couple of weeks ago, with the jack, but relatively easily and when I handled her I knew that I'd calve her easily enough.
    The only difference between the two is they are out of different cows. The troublesome one out of a CH from a dairy herd.
    This one is out of a good Simx cow.
    Only thing I can think of is that the narrow pelvis came from the Fr/Hol?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    sticky mickey please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭dar31


    leg wax wrote: »
    sticky mickey please.

    what were you at last night:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    dar31 wrote: »
    what were you at last night:D
    a reps course :D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    leg wax wrote: »
    a reps course :D.

    is that the 3 day thing? painful!! the farm visit is interesting at least


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    Karen112 wrote: »
    PB LM Dam off Navarin and her dam before that was off Ulysses. Then Westside Bob as the sire (the black one) Other one was off a wee little powerful dam, off PUP. With SM breeding as her previous dam so great milk. Again Westside Bob. (AI) Ah they were pets though, although getting a puck off the black lad which used to be fun, got a bit......painful:o

    your breeding great cattle there Karen, did you sell the nice red and white heifer?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    your breeding great cattle there Karen, did you sell the nice red and white heifer?

    Nope buy have a guy looking at her on Sunday at the house, he'd better have big pockets there though;) She's coming on a thrive like a freight train. Put up so much more muscle since I last showed your her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Bizzum wrote: »
    ...For some reason the heifer (Off our own CH bull from a CH/FR cow) is narrow and tight to handle ................But not to look at. I can't really explain it because to look at the heifer is a big powerful heifer, but to handle, she's tight as an otters pocket!

    I've seen that before with a white charolais heifer I bought in. She was huge at the hips, but she took a big pull two years in a row. I used the LIM bull Malibu (MBU) on her both times, and he's very easy calving. She turned out not to have a drop of milk either, so factory for her. It was one of the reasons I started to breed my own. I always choose a bull for replacements now that has good Maternal calving figures.
    One thing I also see in the photos, is that the tail head is standing proud, if you know what I mean. My heifer had that too. I never like to see that. I prefer a more flatter, squarer shape around the hips.
    You heifer wont get any easier either, I'd say, so if you are keeping her, maybe better to use a very easy calving bull again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    is that the 3 day thing? painful!! the farm visit is interesting at least
    oh thats it alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Karen112 wrote: »
    ...A proper cow to calve (how we think on this farm anyway) should be fed correctly, and have an even triangle in width between pin bone, flank and top back leg joint. I'd have to explain it in picture detail to show what I mean:confused:

    karen,
    Any chance you could put up a diagram to show what you mean by this? Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭BeeDI


    pakalasa wrote: »
    karen,
    Any chance you could put up a diagram to show what you mean by this? Thanks.
    This is the one she has in the field in front of the house

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfyKVXWJOTu3reYtnHAGbz8LtwnLl2UZTjqgDxeiU0vI9_5wyZ


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    BeeDI wrote: »
    This is the one she has in the field in front of the house

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfyKVXWJOTu3reYtnHAGbz8LtwnLl2UZTjqgDxeiU0vI9_5wyZ
    all jokes aside, i often wonder about the poor auld cows that get sent to Agrica with bothar...they must suffer a bit not being used to those conditions


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Karen112 wrote: »
    Ooooooh.....are they fed? They look like they are but I'm only getting into blondes this year!

    OOOOOOOOOOOOooo care to explain Karen??:D I'm into blondes too,

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    pakalasa wrote: »
    karen,
    Any chance you could put up a diagram to show what you mean by this? Thanks.

    Ya, was trying to do so last night but need a suitable phot and MS pain....don't now how to draw lines on photos on the mac:o
    BeeDI wrote: »
    This is the one she has in the field in front of the house

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfyKVXWJOTu3reYtnHAGbz8LtwnLl2UZTjqgDxeiU0vI9_5wyZ

    :eek: How did you find out where I live!
    blue5000 wrote: »
    OOOOOOOOOOOOooo care to explain Karen??:D I'm into blondes too,

    Full moon......;) Actually the cat walked on the laptop and I didnt notice....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    blue5000 wrote: »
    OOOOOOOOOOOOooo care to explain Karen??:D I'm into blondes too,


    Was trying to work out if they put up much natural muscle or were they fed a bit, just to pre think what to do with next years blondes.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    On a more serious note....Have a good few blonde calves this yr, I have found in the past that blonde cows are very poor for milk, unless it's a first cross with a fresian, so I'm only using the blonde as a terminal sire. My bull is a son of KOY (dovea).

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭redzerologhlen


    The view from the top of the mountain behind our house looking down the valley out to connemara

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Lovely scenary there ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭redzerologhlen


    Muckit wrote: »
    Lovely scenary there ;)

    Pity you cant sell the scenery in the mart though:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    Bizzum wrote: »
    This heifer here is a comrade of the one above that we sectioned. Both are the one age,(30mths), both by our own CH bull, both had Lim Bull calves.
    I calved this heifer a couple of weeks ago, with the jack, but relatively easily and when I handled her I knew that I'd calve her easily enough.
    The only difference between the two is they are out of different cows. The troublesome one out of a CH from a dairy herd.
    This one is out of a good Simx cow.
    Only thing I can think of is that the narrow pelvis came from the Fr/Hol?

    Dunno why this pic didn't upload lastnight, but here it is now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    Karen112 wrote: »
    Ooooooh.....are they fed? They look like they are but I'm only getting into blondes this year!

    I assume you mean nuts. No only ever got grass. They would be shapey as weanlings U grade types. Herd test today, so home with them next week to bare paddock and hay for the next 2/3 mths.
    The only Blonde cows we have are by Landais and he brought milk.
    Anyone know a BA sire suitable for heifers and will bring or hold milk?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Bizzum wrote: »
    The calf is a bull calf, calved at 295 days to the AI bull Ambertaine Brigadeer (ABI). The AI man forgot to bring the private flash with straws of FL22, nonetheless it's not a monster of a calf. For some reason the heifer (Off our own CH bull from a CH/FR cow) is narrow and tight to handle ................But not to look at. I can't really explain it because to look at the heifer is a big powerful heifer, but to handle, she's tight as an otters pocket!

    And will be like that again next year! Will you keep her?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Bizzum wrote: »
    Dunno why this pic didn't upload lastnight, but here it is now.


    Your calf appears to be peeing a heifer:D

    (lovely stock though!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


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    This is how I'll try to explain it, from front of pin to base of where the calving bone ends, then down to the mid flank. It's prob just the way I grew up learning but it seems to work for us with choosing breeding stock.:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    just do it wrote: »
    And will be like that again next year! Will you keep her?


    Not a chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    Karen112 wrote: »
    Your calf appears to be peeing a heifer:D

    (lovely stock though!)

    At least she hasn't a purple triangle on her flank.
    That's just taking the whole tattoo thing way to far.:D


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