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"no Irish " ad in Oz

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭JimiTime


    prinz wrote: »
    Sadly it is a reflection of how many Irish conduct themselves abroad. No shock to me that it would be at least an unofficial policy of employers etc abroad.

    It is, but to be fair, you can't single out the Irish in this. As anyone who's been to Oz, or indeed anywhere abroad, Irish, English, Scottish, Welsh etc are all in pretty much the same frame of mind with regards to partying etc. Singling out the Irish seems a bit odd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,898 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Have you decided to explain to us why you find anti-Irish attitudes understandable yet?

    It's all in the thread, maybe go back and have a read. The penny *might* just drop someday.

    Cliff notes -

    Chap has bad experience with Irish, forms negative opinion, is entitled to that opinion, doesn't want to go through the hassle of interviewing more of them, angers Irish internet forum, some folk can't look past their anger and understand why the guy might think this way, thread locked, thread opened with no new info wahtsoever, circle dicsussion ensues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Chap has bad experience with Irish, forms negative opinion, is entitled to that opinion, doesn't want to go through the hassle of interviewing more of them, angers Irish internet forum, some folk can't look past their anger and understand why the guy might think this way, thread locked, thread opened with no new info wahtsoever, circle dicsussion ensues.
    I asked why you found it understandable. And the new information is that he's from Northern Ireland, the most racist place on earth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,898 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    I asked why you found it understandable. And the new information is that he's from Northern Ireland, the most racist place on earth.

    And I told you why countless times, I'm amazed that you're so simple. Seriously.

    Last time - he had a bad experience so it caused an opinion to be formed. He doesn't want the hassle of finding the good eggs amongst the bad ones so said out straight he wants no Irish. Given his bad experiences, it's understandable why he would choose to say as much.

    Clear enough?

    Also, lol at you having a go at this lad for stereotyping when you've just done the same thing with the north. Good lad :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    And I told you why countless times, I'm amazed that you're so simple. Seriously.

    Last time - he had a bad experience so it caused an opinion to be formed. He doesn't want the hassle of finding the good eggs amongst the bad ones so said out straight he wants no Irish. Given his bad experiences, it's understandable why he would choose to say as much.
    That's not what you said though. You said you knew what he was talking about based on your years of having lived in Australia, and that you associated the Irish with a pack of wasters, which you claimed was a "selective quote" even though the actual quote was two millimeters above it.

    And plenty of other posters pulled you up on it too.
    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Also, lol at you having a go at this lad for steroetyping when you've just done the same thing with the north. Good lad :rolleyes:
    Unlike you I didn't go off half cocked without a shred of actual evidence though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    JimiTime wrote: »
    It is, but to be fair, you can't single out the Irish in this. As anyone who's been to Oz, or indeed anywhere abroad, Irish, English, Scottish, Welsh etc are all in pretty much the same frame of mind with regards to partying etc. Singling out the Irish seems a bit odd.

    Sounds like the employer in question had plenty of bad experiences with the Irish in particular, seems that's the only reason they were singled out. It's unfortunate but it's reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Unlike you I didn't go off half cocked without a shred of actual evidence though.

    So where is your actual evidence that this guy is a racist who only went to Australia to live out his racist fantasies? :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    prinz wrote: »
    So where is your actual evidence that this guy is a racist who only went to Australia to live out his racist fantasies? :confused:
    Are you saying the guy isn't a racist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Are you saying the guy isn't a racist?

    Can you not answer the question no?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    prinz wrote: »
    Can you not answer the question no?
    So you think he isn't a racist? Really, this should be good, I've my popcorn at the ready.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,898 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    That's not what you said though. You said you knew what he was talking about based on your years of having lived in Australia, and that you associated the Irish with a pack of wasters, which you claimed was a "selective quote" even though the actual quote was two millimeters above it.

    And plenty of other posters pulled you up on it too.

    Here is the quote -
    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Living here I have experience of the sort of wasters that he has had applying for his job

    So yes, I know exactly what he's talking about because I have encountered some of the same. Problem?
    Unlike you I didn't go off half cocked without a shred of actual evidence though.

    You have actual conclusive evidence that it is the most racist place in the world? Sure you do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    So you think he isn't a racist? Really, this should be good, I've my popcorn at the ready.

    So you've really got no evidence whatsoever to back up your claims other than eh racism.. how interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,898 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    prinz wrote: »
    Can you not answer the question no?

    This happened the other day, he avoids answering questions he doesn't like by asking one straight back.

    He has no evidence, just more bullshit. It's embarrassing at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    So yes, I know exactly what he's talking about because I have encountered some of the same. Problem?
    Quote the whole sentence there like a good lad.
    Xavi6 wrote: »
    You have actual conclusive evidence that it is the most racist place in the world? Sure you do.
    Did you even read the Human Values survey report I linked twice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    prinz wrote: »
    So you've really got no evidence whatsoever to back up your claims other than eh racism.. how interesting.
    Amazing.

    He put up an advert that said "NO IRISH".

    Now you're sitting there telling me that's not racist.

    Wow.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Unlike you I didn't go off half cocked without a shred of actual evidence though.

    I think you'll find you did. Where is it written that Northern Ireland is the most racist place in the world?

    And where have you got the information that this man moved half-way across the world purely to live out a fantasy to refuse Irish people work?

    I've heard plenty of stories of people taking the big plunge for varying reasons, but this one seems pretty outlandish. And, as the Australian authorities have come down incredibly hard on him for his ad, surely it must be time to realise now that it has all been for nothing.

    Suppose he will have to move on somewhere else now....


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    I think you'll find you did. Where is it written that Northern Ireland is the most racist place in the world?
    That has to be some kind of record.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,898 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Quote the whole sentence there like a good lad.

    Gladly
    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Living here I have experience of the sort of wasters that he has had applying for his job so therefore I can understand (there's that word again) why he would have a negative perception of Irish people and not want to hire them.

    Point is the exact same - guy had bad experience, doesn't want more of the same working for him. Fair enough, it's not right but it's his opinion and he hasn't formed it out of nowhere.

    Still problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Amazing.
    He put up an advert that said "NO IRISH". Now you're sitting there telling me that's not racist. Wow.

    How does that equate to a man who was previously racist moving to Australia expressly to live out his supremist dream? :confused: 2+2 =/= 5. Laughable though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,510 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    This happened the other day, he avoids answering questions he doesn't like by asking one straight back.

    I agree with this synopsis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    We'll leave it here.
    There is a thread here but please read the other forum rules before posting in it. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056575889
    G'day


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