Playstation 4 Or Xbox One? (See mod warning in the first post)

johnny_ultimate · 21-07-2014 3:47pm

Ditching a PS3 before the arrival of Persona 5 is an unspeakable premature act.

Not that I think disposing of any console is a wise idea, unless you really really need the money.

Penn · 21-07-2014 4:32pm

I traded in my 360 a few months ago. Barely played it over the last few years as I mostly just stuck to the PS3. Was tempted to give Titanfall a go on it, but just thought f*ck it. My Gold Membership had expired and I just became disinterested in Titanfall anyway.

No way am I getting rid of my PS3 though. Between all the free games I got with PS+, the Borderlands Pre-Sequel, and playing media files from my external hard drive, I'll be keeping it for a while yet.

Generic Dreadhead · 21-07-2014 4:50pm

Penn wrote: »

and playing media files from my external hard drive, I'll be keeping it for a while yet.

Wish i knew about this before I shelled out on a Media Player

Varik · 21-07-2014 4:50pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Ditching a PS3 before the arrival of Persona 5 is an unspeakable premature act.

Not that I think disposing of any console is a wise idea, unless you really really need the money.

I regret selling my PS1 to buy a PS2 when I was young, don't plan on selling any of them ever again (Traded a pre-HDMI 360 but that doesn't count).

ShadowHearth · 21-07-2014 5:41pm

I was actually planing to write a big post about my experience with wii u, but decided not to bother as I doubt my opinion matters to anyone here lol.
All I will say about wii u, that I am in love with it as a console. I don't know what it is about it, but when I start it up it feels like an actual gaming console and brings me back to my youth. I can't explain it properly... I just love everything about it, from sound effects and background music, to ability to turn on game or app with the tablet controller without a need to load up actual OS software.
If you ask me, Wii U is actually the only console that is next gen out there. I want my multiplatform games on wii u now.

Only played 2 games,on it though. Monster Hunter and Mariokart 8. I am in love with Monster hunter and it is so much better then 3ds version, but mariokart 8 is a mixed bag. It's a lot of fun local Co-op with a few cans, but other then that I can't see myself playing it at all.

NTMK · 21-07-2014 5:50pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I was actually planing to write a big post about my experience with wii u, but decided not to bother as I doubt my opinion matters to anyone here lol.
All I will say about wii u, that I am in love with it as a console. I don't know what it is about it, but when I start it up it feels like an actual gaming console and brings me back to my youth. I can't explain it properly... I just love everything about it, from sound effects and background music, to ability to turn on game or app with the tablet controller without a need to load up actual OS software.
If you ask me, Wii U is actually the only console that is next gen out there. I want my multiplatform games on wii u now.

Only played 2 games,on it though. Monster Hunter and Mariokart 8. I am in love with Monster hunter and it is so much better then 3ds version, but mariokart 8 is a mixed bag. It's a lot of fun local Co-op with a few cans, but other then that I can't see myself playing it at all.

One of us,one of us :P

youve changed your tune:pac:

johnny_ultimate · 21-07-2014 5:54pm

The Wii U is wonderful for many reasons, but multiplatform games are going to be fast left behind as the more technically ambitious games get released for the other consoles. Nintendo are wizards in many respects and they will make the most out of hardware (indeed, many Wii U games already do), but even they're not going to be able to force the levels of detail we're going to start seeing into a much less powerful consoles. Given the small userbase, it's not even going to be worthwhile for developers to even try creating compromised versions.

As ever, I'm happy with Nintendo consoles being for Nintendo games, and whatever third party exclusives they manage to negotiate.

ShadowHearth · 21-07-2014 6:02pm

NTMK wrote: »

One of us,one of us :P

youve changed your tune:pac:

Not really, I always said that wii u is a good choice to go with ps4/xbox one or pc. Just because I want my multiplatform games on it, does not mean I will get them as third party publishers are not interested in wii u. Saying that there are enough games for me ( dude who does not really care about first party stuff) to play. A good few coming out too.
I just really like the console itself after I used it. Nintendo first party gamed is different topic, so far mariokart could not convince me that it's not overhyped franchise.

I do have respect to Nintendo for being the last console that is actually keeping local multiplayer and not just keeping it, but focusing on it.

richymcdermott · 21-07-2014 6:26pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Not really, I always said that wii u is a good choice to go with ps4/xbox one or pc. Just because I want my multiplatform games on it, does not mean I will get them as third party publishers are not interested in wii u. Saying that there are enough games for me ( dude who does not really care about first party stuff) to play. A good few coming out too.
I just really like the console itself after I used it. Nintendo first party gamed is different topic, so far mariokart could not convince me that it's not overhyped franchise.

I do have respect to Nintendo for being the last console that is actually keeping local multiplayer and not just keeping it, but focusing on it.

Think Mario Kart has the fanbase it has because it has always been mostly enjoyed by a group of friends wacking each other with red shells, by yourself the enjoyment factor might dip and in terms of kart racers mario kart is the best in the genre imo.

ShadowHearth · 21-07-2014 6:45pm

Oh yeah, one more thing I actually love about nintendo and Wii U.

When you buy a game for Wii U, you just come to a counter and ask for a game for wii U. There is no: Would you like No balls edition, Small cheap balls edition or " I have more money then sense to buy Biggest balls edition with a statue of whistles and Frankfurter sausage DLC".

Mariokart 8 has a Limited edition, but there is no Preorder exclusive content bull**** and just a small premium price on top from standard game and you get something Fun in a form of Physical small item.

FlyingIrishMan · 21-07-2014 7:34pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Oh yeah, one more thing I actually love about nintendo and Wii U.

When you buy a game for Wii U, you just come to a counter and ask for a game for wii U. There is no: Would you like No balls edition, Small cheap balls edition or " I have more money then sense to buy Biggest balls edition with a statue of whistles and Frankfurter sausage DLC".

Mariokart 8 has a Limited edition, but there is no Preorder exclusive content bull**** and just a small premium price on top from standard game and you get something Fun in a form of Physical small item.

If it actually had third party games it'd get the same treatment as others. :rolleyes::D

CiDeRmAn · 21-07-2014 8:36pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Not that I think disposing of any console is a wise idea, unless you really really need the money.

Anyone addicted to the buy now, trade in, buy again later cycle is a fool and should be spat at on the street
It's a good thing I don't know anyone like that....

2Mad2BeMad · 21-07-2014 8:53pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Anyone addicted to the buy now, trade in, buy again later cycle is a fool and should be spat at on the street
It's a good thing I don't know anyone like that....

I am terrible for that, mainly regarding to games though.

I tend to buy now, complete them, trade them in and buy later digitally
although I'd only ever rebuy them if their worth the buy.
As for consoles, I use to be bad for it, but decided to keep everything I have from last gen to this gen

CiDeRmAn · 21-07-2014 9:16pm

I may have been referring to myself in that post actually, it's a bad habit I have to break.
Case and point, I bought Steel Battalion with the ninja controller for the Xbox some 10/12 years ago, and loved it, then sold it in a fit of madness....
Just bought it again the other day, should have it next week, will gather dust but.... it's so damn awesome!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGgxRsaGdcA

Grayditch · 21-07-2014 10:21pm

I remember seeing that reduced to about €40 quid in HMV at one stage.

Ambitious idea, that...

Trying to get €40 for it... :pac:

CiDeRmAn · 21-07-2014 10:45pm

Grayditch wrote: »

I remember seeing that reduced to about €40 quid in HMV at one stage.

Ambitious idea, that...

Trying to get €40 for it... :pac:

You'll need an original Xbox to run it, a chipped one won't do it, I had to install a switch on mine to run it, and it's incredible.
It really has to be played to be believed, the Arcade and Retro forum Beers used to include a session of it and it was a well received blast.
Looking forward to having it up and running for the next Beers in August!
I was never so gutted at the utter tripe of the Kinect based Steel Battalion title for the 360.
A broken load of rubbish, and a sad end to any chance of seeing the original franchise vision being remade for the current machine.

Pac1Man · 21-07-2014 11:04pm

It was a Concorde moment in terms of console controllers. Never will we see the likes again, for better or for worse.

CiDeRmAn · 21-07-2014 11:19pm

The Resident Evil 4 chainsaw controller was totally unusable but brilliant.

Pac1Man · 21-07-2014 11:22pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

The Resident Evil 4 chainsaw controller was totally unusable but brilliant.

Wow, that's a new one on me. :eek::cool:

FAILSAFE 00 · 22-07-2014 12:38am

Destiny confirmed at 1080p on Xbox One. Here's the first video footage of Destiny @ 1080p on XB1.

The gap is narrowing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMA08pmD2G4

miju · 22-07-2014 9:54am

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

This looks savage, how much was it to buy ?? I can imagine this controller, with a serious headset and Occulus Rift would make for a hell of an experience for blowing your senses

kunst nugget · 22-07-2014 9:59am

miju wrote: »

This looks savage, how much was it to buy ?? I can imagine this controller, with a serious headset and Occulus Rift would make for a hell of an experience for blowing your senses

How are you going to see it with a rift on? I'd imagine that'd involve a hell of a lot of fumbling about.

CiDeRmAn · 22-07-2014 10:03am

miju wrote: »

This looks savage, how much was it to buy ?? I can imagine this controller, with a serious headset and Occulus Rift would make for a hell of an experience for blowing your senses

I got a great deal on mine, just 50 euro, but it's coming in for free from the UK.
And even without VR, on a big enough screen and a darkened room, with the volume up you'll be right there.
Even the start up sequence is cool.
An Xbox controller port is a remodelled USB port, there are adaptors out there for turning one into the other, so it's perfectly plausible to get it running on PC and integrated into a game with something like Xpadder.
One stick is fully free to move, operating the vertical tanks gun, the other is side to side only, controlling steering, the pedals are for throttle, brake and a short slide pedal is there too.
There are gears to select and weapons buttons as well as radio and window washer buttons, and the all important eject, glowing red beneath a cover, it's amazing stuff.

miju · 22-07-2014 10:08am

kunst nugget wrote: »

How are you going to see it with a rift on? I'd imagine that'd involve a hell of a lot of fumbling about.

Exactly my point. **** this things gonna blow where is eject , boooom. Would be hella fun Id say

Controllers like that woupd make Occulus, Morpheus and MSs project alot more involved

gaynorvader · 22-07-2014 12:17pm

kunst nugget wrote: »

How are you going to see it with a rift on? I'd imagine that'd involve a hell of a lot of fumbling about.

If there was an in-game overlay, that'd solve it.

irishmover · 22-07-2014 12:22pm

gaynorvader wrote: »

If there was an in-game overlay, that'd solve it.

Yeh kinda obvious.. Just tilt your head down with the rift on and there's a VR version of your massive command station. Maybe a calibration system developed to sync the physical one with the VR one would be an idea. Would be awesome and i'm sure doable.

CiDeRmAn · 22-07-2014 12:22pm

Sorry for the above being so off topic.
I hope to have the PS4 soon, it that drags my posts back to relevancy

DARK-KNIGHT · 22-07-2014 2:50pm

the ps4 virtual reality headset when is it available? what is it called? any idea what price will be?

F1ngers · 22-07-2014 3:11pm

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

the ps4 virtual reality headset when is it available? what is it called? any idea what price will be?

PS4's Project Morpheus VR device won't launch in 2014, $1000 price point unlikely

PlayStation president of Worldwide Studios rules out 2014 launch date for head-mounted display, says you shouldn't expect to pay $1000.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-s-project-morpheus-vr-device-won-t-launch-in-2014-1000-price-point-unlikely/1100-6418418/

Riesen_Meal · 22-07-2014 3:11pm

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Destiny confirmed at 1080p on Xbox One. Here's the first video footage of Destiny @ 1080p on XB1.

The gap is narrowing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMA08pmD2G4

Frame rate drops and v sync tearing on that video?

Yeah the gap is getting bigger from what my eyes are telling me....

The 2.40 mark in particular...

Otacon · 22-07-2014 3:12pm

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

the ps4 virtual reality headset when is it available? what is it called? any idea what price will be?

No idea.

Project Morpheus is only the name it's using during development - like Orbis for PS4.

Again, no idea.

COYVB · 22-07-2014 3:40pm

I believe they're aiming for this year

dunworth1 · 22-07-2014 3:50pm

a 1000 bucks :eek:

no chance i'm paying anything like that as itll probably only be a gimmick.
look at kinect its pretty much dead now.

problem i think it that it wont be open enough on the consoles to have any impact.

like look at rift you can already get amazing stuff for it and its now fully launched

Grayditch · 22-07-2014 3:51pm

Fieldog wrote: »

Frame rate drops and v sync tearing on that video?

Yeah the gap is getting bigger from what my eyes are telling me....

The 2.40 mark in particular...

I can't watch the video right now, but if that's the case I'd rather a lower res and a smooth game. I think anyone would.

calex71 · 22-07-2014 4:15pm

Grayditch wrote: »

I can't watch the video right now, but if that's the case I'd rather a lower res and a smooth game. I think anyone would.

you will stop noticing lower res as you play and get used to it but you will not stop noticing tearing and low frame rates

That said they did say in the video the res and frame rate was the same on both consoles now.

FAILSAFE 00 · 22-07-2014 4:17pm

Fieldog wrote: »

Frame rate drops and v sync tearing on that video?

Yeah the gap is getting bigger from what my eyes are telling me....

The 2.40 mark in particular...

How many frame rate drops and tearing did you notice?

Is there 0 frame rate drop and no screen tear on the PS4 version?

Looks very good to me.

F1ngers · 22-07-2014 4:34pm

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Destiny confirmed at 1080p on Xbox One. Here's the first video footage of Destiny @ 1080p on XB1.

The gap is narrowing

There is no gap to narrow.

Both consoles can do 1080p, it's just lazy developers who don't utilise the consoles.

ShadowHearth · 22-07-2014 4:35pm

Yup, and we all know that there only 2 ways version can differ: FPS and Resolution. Everything else never changes and is written in stone.

DARK-KNIGHT · 22-07-2014 4:40pm

LADS ITS A BETA HOW CAN ANYTHING BE JUDGED FROM A BETA? sorry for caps but anger rising makes hulk mad

2Mad2BeMad · 22-07-2014 4:49pm

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

LADS ITS A BETA HOW CAN ANYTHING BE JUDGED FROM A BETA? sorry for caps but anger rising makes hulk mad

I always thought of a beta of a game to be the final version bar a few bugs to be ironed out and polishing:)

WeHaveToGoBack · 22-07-2014 5:05pm

F1ngers wrote: »

There is no gap to narrow.

Both consoles can do 1080p, it's just lazy developers who don't utilise the consoles.

This is sarcasm isn't it?

Riesen_Meal · 22-07-2014 5:39pm

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

How many frame rate drops and tearing did you notice?

Is there 0 frame rate drop and no screen tear on the PS4 version?

Looks very good to me.

I personally noticed quite a few considering I'm playing since the Alpha and have done the same scene at least 10 times at this stage levelling up my characters....

Of course each version will drop frames at intense parts of action but that very part I have done a few times now and it doesn't screen tear and drop frames on PS4 the way it seems to on Xbox One...

The beta won't be a good judge of it either as the Xbox one version will be 900p resolution...

I await digital foundry video of the released version on both consoles side on side....

DARK-KNIGHT · 22-07-2014 5:41pm

WeHaveToGoBack wrote: »

This is sarcasm isn't it?

ITS EASIER for devs to get the most from ps4 but both can comfortably kick out 1080 p

Magill · 22-07-2014 5:48pm

I'd rather the PS4 version be at a lower res and higher framerate tbh, 30fps in a shooter is ridiculous at this point. I really like the potential this game has, just a shame they are already being bottlenecked by the hardware. We need a PC version

Still, i'm looking forward to the game.

P.S.... don't worry xbox owners, im sure the magic in the clouds and that dx super sauce will be ready soon.

Myrddin · 22-07-2014 5:54pm

Magill wrote: »

I'd rather the PS4 version be at a lower res and higher framerate tbh, 30fps in a shooter is ridiculous at this point. I really like the potential this game has, just a shame they are already being bottlenecked by the hardware. We need a PC version

Still, i'm looking forward to the game.

P.S.... don't worry xbox owners, im sure the magic in the clouds and that dx super sauce will be ready soon.

I more or less agree. I'd rather have lower resolution & a higher framerate any day of the week. Sometimes I feel people get caught up in this whole 1080p stuff...if a game comes in 1080p at the cost of frame rate it's disappointing.

ShadowHearth · 22-07-2014 6:05pm

Myrddin wrote: »

I more or less agree. I'd rather have lower resolution & a higher framerate any day of the week. Sometimes I feel people get caught up in this whole 1080p stuff...if a game comes in 1080p at the cost of frame rate it's disappointing.

I just prefer having both and have eye candy on.

*kisses his PC.

FAILSAFE 00 · 22-07-2014 6:36pm

Magill wrote: »

I'd rather the PS4 version be at a lower res and higher framerate tbh, 30fps in a shooter is ridiculous at this point. I really like the potential this game has, just a shame they are already being bottlenecked by the hardware. We need a PC version

Still, i'm looking forward to the game.

P.S.... don't worry xbox owners, im sure the magic in the clouds and that dx super sauce will be ready soon.

Agreed, It is ridiculous for a shooter to be at 30 FPS. I get that they want to make it really beautiful but at what cost.

It sounds like the PC version has been put off for a while, probably so it wont dilute the game sales on consoles. I'd say the PC version will be the 60 frames +

FlyingIrishMan · 22-07-2014 6:43pm

dunworth1 wrote: »

a 1000 bucks :eek:

no chance i'm paying anything like that as itll probably only be a gimmick.
look at kinect its pretty much dead now.

problem i think it that it wont be open enough on the consoles to have any impact.

like look at rift you can already get amazing stuff for it and its now fully launched

He said it wouldn't be 1000$. Expect around 250-300$.

Kinect and VR aren't comparable, they're nothing alike.

I think Sony have proved themselves to be open enough regarding indie development to not start doubting them now.

Rift isn't fully launched, it's still in development and takes ages to get a development kit.

Varik · 22-07-2014 8:13pm

Of course the ONE can do 1080p, so can the PS4 and both can have a 1080P game running at 60fps using 100% of the consoles power and filling a 50GB Blu-ray with a single player that isn't 5 hours long.

None of this **** means anything by itself.

Retr0gamer · 22-07-2014 10:43pm

Gust are considering the new consoles for the next Atelier game and with Atelier Shallie just released it could mean the series moving the PS4. Gust were quick to move to PS3 and with most developers going to handheld and Final Fantasy in trouble, the excellent Atelier games were some of the best games Japanese games on the system (and far better than muck like ni no Kuni). Will be good to get some (if small) jrpg support on the system even if it will inevitably get a vita port.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/07/22/gust-considering-newer-consoles-next-atelier-game/

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