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lol this is hilarious!! "Shut up with you and your facts"
"Dublin is the capitol of Ireland"
-"Fúck off you freak, I disagree"
I've never actually seen a debate on here where someone is actually accepting that something is a fact, yet disagreeing with it.
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Ya haven't?! :pac:jaffacakesyum wrote: »I've never actually seen a debate on here where someone is actually accepting that something is a fact, yet disagreeing with it.
In fairness though, I don't think angerfist is disputing the facts, just expressing the point of view that transsexuality makes him feel uncomfortable.0 -
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Are they really verified though? To me it seems the whole transgender thing is still pretty much up in the air with everyone having a different view on it. The idea of someone being born a man but really being a woman is alien to me, I can't wrap my head around it. But that's me. I certainly wouldn't view it as a mental illness though.The King of Moo wrote: »Refusing to believe verified facts is not the same as having your own mind.
I won't say what refusing to believe facts actually is.
For what it's worth, personally I don't care. If they want to change gender that's up to them. I personally couldn't date a girl who used to be a guy. I'm sure plenty of guys feel the same, and I'm sure plenty of girls feel the same about the opposite situation.
Ultimately they are women in the eyes of the law and in day to day life, but when it comes to the romantic side of life I'd still think it was a man. If I am being unfair or rude or crass there I'm sorry, I'm not meaning to be controversial or annoy anyone (especially as it seems there are some transgender people reading this thread). Just saying it as I think I'd see it if the situation arose. So while you may be treated pretty much the same as someone born your new sex, you'll never be seen as exactly the same as someone born your new sex.
I think most transgenders are aware of this though, I don't think that'd come as a surprise to them.
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Are they really verified though? To me it seems the whole transgender thing is still pretty much up in the air with everyone having a different view on it. The idea of someone being born a man but really being a woman is alien to me, I can't wrap my head around it. But that's me. I certainly wouldn't view it as a mental illness though.
For what it's worth, personally I don't care. If they want to change gender that's up to them. I personally couldn't date a girl who used to be a guy. I'm sure plenty of guys feel the same, and I'm sure plenty of girls feel the same about the opposite situation.
Ultimately they are women in the eyes of the law and in day to day life, but when it comes to the romantic side of life I'd still think it was a man. If I am being unfair or rude or crass there I'm sorry, I'm not meaning to be controversial or annoy anyone (especially as it seems there are some transgender people reading this thread). Just saying it as I think I'd see it if the situation arose. So while you may be treated pretty much the same as someone born your new sex, you'll never be seen as exactly the same as someone born your new sex.
I think most transgenders are aware of this though, I don't think that'd come as a surprise to them.
Well Links234's links seem pretty trustworthy to me.
But it's one thing to feel uncomfortable about being sexually or romantically involved with a transgender person: it's quite another to spew vitriol about transsexuals and call them "freak shows," say they have psychological defects, and get angry about them identifying with a particular gender, as people have elsewhere in this thread.
I'm sad to admit that I would probably hesitate about being in a relationship with a transgender woman: it's a prejudice and it doesn't mean I'd never get involved with a transgender woman, but I'm just being honest and think lots of people, unfortunately, would have that initial hesitation too.
But that doesn't mean I don't think transsexuals aren't regular people who should be entitled to the same rights as everyone else.0 -
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Ya haven't?! :pac:
In fairness though, I don't think angerfist is disputing the facts, just expressing the point of view that transsexuality makes him feel uncomfortable.
To be honest its not that it makes me feel uncomfortable i just dont take the whole thing seriously.
You can be born a man with the mind of a woman or visa versa and have a sex change and want to live your life as a woman and believe thats what you are and thats what you should be excepted as but bottom line is your not a woman your a man who had surgery to look something like a woman.
Far as im concerned i could not care less how my point of view comes across weather its viewed as ignorance or hurtful or being a prick to a fellow human whatever end of the day i dont really care.
I wouldnt even normally be arsed to comment on this kinda crap only for the fact any time the word is mentioned on here the same bloody brigade come out in force and parades THERE problems and forces them on everyone else. You either except us or your wrong.......
I could not give two ****s if your black white man woman gay straight whatever just dont expect the whole world to want to embrace what you are. And if you think pairing up with people on here to win an internet debate is gonna change that good luck 0 -
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angerfist2009 wrote: »To be honest its not that it makes me feel uncomfortable i just dont take the whole thing seriously.
You can be born a man with the mind of a woman or visa versa and have a sex change and want to live your life as a woman and believe thats what you are and thats what you should be excepted as but bottom line is your not a woman your a man who had surgery to look something like a woman.
Far as im concerned i could not care less how my point of view comes across weather its viewed as ignorance or hurtful or being a prick to a fellow human whatever end of the day i dont really care.
I wouldnt even normally be arsed to comment on this kinda crap only for the fact any time the word is mentioned on here the same bloody brigade come out in force and parades THERE problems and forces them on everyone else. You either except us or your wrong.......
I could not give two ****s if your black white man woman gay straight whatever just dont expect the whole world to want to embrace what you are. And if you think pairing up with people on here to win an internet debate is gonna change that good luck
The fact that you don't care that your views come across as ignorant says it all.0 -
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angerfist2009 wrote: »To be honest its not that it makes me feel uncomfortable i just dont take the whole thing seriously.
You can be born a man with the mind of a woman or visa versa and have a sex change and want to live your life as a woman and believe thats what you are and thats what you should be excepted as but bottom line is your not a woman your a man who had surgery to look something like a woman.
Far as im concerned i could not care less how my point of view comes across weather its viewed as ignorance or hurtful or being a prick to a fellow human whatever end of the day i dont really care.
I wouldnt even normally be arsed to comment on this kinda crap only for the fact any time the word is mentioned on here the same bloody brigade come out in force and parades THERE problems and forces them on everyone else. You either except us or your wrong.......
I could not give two ****s if your black white man woman gay straight whatever just dont expect the whole world to want to embrace what you are. And if you think pairing up with people on here to win an internet debate is gonna change that good luck
boo! how dare you have your own point of view , c'mon lets get him!!!
how dare you not accept women made in a surgery , they have a gap and no balls , that makes them women ! :rolleyes:0 -
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angerfist2009 wrote: »Ya haven't?! :pac:
In fairness though, I don't think angerfist is disputing the facts, just expressing the point of view that transsexuality makes him feel uncomfortable.
To be honest its not that it makes me feel uncomfortable i just dont take the whole thing seriously.
You can be born a man with the mind of a woman or visa versa and have a sex change and want to live your life as a woman and believe thats what you are and thats what you should be excepted as but bottom line is your not a woman your a man who had surgery to look something like a woman.
Far as im concerned i could not care less how my point of view comes across weather its viewed as ignorance or hurtful or being a prick to a fellow human whatever end of the day i dont really care.
I wouldnt even normally be arsed to comment on this kinda crap only for the fact any time the word is mentioned on here the same bloody brigade come out in force and parades THERE problems and forces them on everyone else. You either except us or your wrong.......
I could not give two ****s if your black white man woman gay straight whatever just dont expect the whole world to want to embrace what you are. And if you think pairing up with people on here to win an internet debate is gonna change that good luck
It's THEIR problems not THERE0 -
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I think he was referring to the weatherangerfist2009 wrote: »Ya haven't?! :pac:
In fairness though, I don't think angerfist is disputing the facts, just expressing the point of view that transsexuality makes him feel uncomfortable.
To be honest its not that it makes me feel uncomfortable i just dont take the whole thing seriously.
You can be born a man with the mind of a woman or visa versa and have a sex change and want to live your life as a woman and believe thats what you are and thats what you should be excepted as but bottom line is your not a woman your a man who had surgery to look something like a woman.
Far as im concerned i could not care less how my point of view comes across weather its viewed as ignorance or hurtful or being a prick to a fellow human whatever end of the day i dont really care.
I wouldnt even normally be arsed to comment on this kinda crap only for the fact any time the word is mentioned on here the same bloody brigade come out in force and parades THERE problems and forces them on everyone else. You either except us or your wrong.......
I could not give two ****s if your black white man woman gay straight whatever just dont expect the whole world to want to embrace what you are. And if you think pairing up with people on here to win an internet debate is gonna change that good luck
It's THEIR problems not THERE
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