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N40 - Cork South Ring Bandon & Sarsfield Flyovers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    I've heard that drainage was a major problem for them at the Sars roundabout end. Prob why they are behind schedule.
    It was, i cycle through that rounabout pretty much every day, if there was any heavy rain for the last 6 months it was pretty much flooded out. Then when they raised and the road the front of elmvale, started flooding at any hint of rain.

    But the weather was very wet the last 6 months too, i pitied them some days working in the trenches and needing the water pumps going to keep from filling up, that was very tough work without a doubt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 kells74


    According to the National Roads Authority website - End of construction: Q3 2013


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Have been passing alot the last few days, lots of machinery lying idle, and seems to be fewer workers than before. Im getting the feeling they are just tipping away till spring, as i live nearby and the ground conditions everywhere are terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Have been passing alot the last few days, lots of machinery lying idle, and seems to be fewer workers than before. Im getting the feeling they are just tipping away till spring, as i live nearby and the ground conditions everywhere are terrible.
    You wouldn't blame them given the amount of rain that was dumped last night.

    I'm just wondering if anyone knows what is the procedure when they're rained off? Do they agree this with the NRA so it doesn't count against them if they're over time (in order to avoid a possible penalty)?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭pigtown


    serfboard wrote: »
    You wouldn't blame them given the amount of rain that was dumped last night.

    I'm just wondering if anyone knows what is the procedure when they're rained off? Do they agree this with the NRA so it doesn't count against them if they're over time (in order to avoid a possible penalty)?

    In a normal contract you are only allowed use the weather as an excuse if it couldn't have been forseen, like snow in July. Rain in winter in Ireland should have been expected and allowed for in scheduling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭moyners


    Progress update:
    Bandon/Sarsfield Interchanges Upgrade
    Progress Update
    Monday 11th February 2013

    Over the coming weeks the works on the Interchanges Scheme will continue to focus mainly on the
    Sarsfield Road Roundabout area. The piling works which are currently ongoing at the eastern side of the
    roundabout should be completed over the next two weeks. The third and final support for the new Sarsfield
    Road flyover structure will also be progressed and it is hoped to have all 8 columns at this eastern abutment
    completed before the end of February. Construction of the approach embankment on the western side of the
    Sarsfield Road flyover will also continue over the next few weeks with a completion date in late
    March/early April anticipated for this element of the works.
    At the Bandon Road end the full length of the new sound barrier should be in place before the end of
    February. Surfacing works at the Bandon Road end are currently getting underway and should reach
    substantial completion around the middle of March 2013.
    It is not anticipated that there will be any significant daytime traffic restrictions in place for the remainder of
    February 2013. However it is anticipated that works on the western tie-in in the Waterfall Road overbridge
    area west of the Bandon Road Roundabout will be progressed in early to mid March. These works are likely
    to be progressed under weekend working in order to minimise traffic disruption and details of the proposed
    arrangements will be issued over the coming weeks. In overall terms it is still hoped that traffic will be
    using both flyovers by the end of this coming summer and regular updates will continue to be issued as the
    works progress.
    As always, if you have any queries or comments in relation to the current phase of the works or in relation to
    the scheme in general site staff can be contacted at the above number, on the freephone 24 hour helpline
    number 1800 932 046 or by email on n25@ccc-site.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    Took a drive down there last night.

    The ramp from the Western side for the Sars flyover is progressing nicely. Apart from that, there hasn't been much work on that end since Christmas.

    Still very little work done on the Eastbound carriageway between both roundabouts. The westbound carriageway is essentially finished.

    Bandon flyover is basically finished. Putting up noise cancelling screens on the flyover at present.


  • Registered Users Posts: 708 ✭✭✭cork_south


    5 photos I took last week, poor quality.

    http://imgur.com/fxTmZPp,F6l5xY6,Fl4X9ul,EthyJ4l,fiFk6uw#0


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    Looking at the pictures there is still a lot to be done. But Q3 looks realistic to me. Weather is only going to improve from now on and days are also getting longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭bg07


    I took a couple of pictures yesterday of progress

    Bandon Road RAB from south
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    Eastbound ramp over Bandon Road flyover
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    2013-02-23160000_zpse1321c3a.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭bg07


    Sarsfield Road RAB
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭bg07


    Road between two RAB facing east:-
    2013-02-23160240_zps57624d5a.jpg

    2013-02-23160148_zps6ef729b3.jpg

    Sarsfield road, showing extent that road was raised:-
    2013-02-23161738_zps94d06eb1.jpg

    2013-02-23161608_zps2cf381ec.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor


    Wow, still a lot to do. I thought they might be a bit more advanced by now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Is the South Ring Road turning into this.

    bumpy-road-thumb22173210.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭moyners


    Pretty much!
    Is the South Ring Road turning into this.

    bumpy-road-thumb22173210.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    The Bishopstown roundabout flyover is in the process of getting the black stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    kub wrote: »
    The Bishopstown roundabout flyover is in the process of getting the black stuff.

    Ah, that reminds me!
    Bandon/Sarsfield Interchanges Upgrade

    Progress Update

    Thursday 28th February 2013

    Piling works in the area east of the Sarsfield Road flyover have now been completed. 4 of the 8 columns required on the eastern abutment of the Sarsfield Road flyover structure have been cast and it is hoped to complete all 8 columns in this area early next week. Preparatory earthworks will continue in the area east of the Sarsfield Road Roundabout over the next few weeks with a view to getting construction of the flyover approach ramp in this area underway as quickly as possible.

    At the Bandon Road end surfacing works on the flyover itself are currently ongoing and installation of the sound barrier throughout the length of the Bandon Road flyover is currently nearing completion.

    As noted in previous updates surfacing works will be progressed at both the western and eastern tie-in points of the Scheme under weekend working over the next few weeks. As part of this process significant lane restrictions and localised diversions will be in place for eastbound traffic between the Curraheen Road Interchange and the Bandon Road Roundabout over this coming weekend. The restrictions will be in place from 7.30 a.m. on both Saturday 2nd March and Sunday 3rd March – on both days the road will be fully reopened as quickly as possible but it is anticipated that the restrictions will be in place on both days into the early afternoon. Available diversion routes will be signposted and motorists are strongly advised to avail of these alternative routes as lengthy delays are anticipated. Regular updates will be issued over the weekend via AA Roadwatch and local radio stations as the works progress.

    If there are any queries or comments in relation to the ongoing works or in relation to the upcoming traffic management arrangements, site staff can be contacted at the above number, on the freephone 24 hour helpline number 1800 932 046 or by email on n25@ccc-site.com.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Prowetod


    Not sure if this has been posted before:
    bandonrnd.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Any idea when that was taken?


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭The Browser


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Any idea when that was taken?

    September 2012 I would say (leaves still green).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    Surface being laid on Bandon Road flyover. Surely we'll see a phased opening of this scheme.

    It wouldn't take much effort to open the flyover for Westbound traffic anyways.


  • Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭neddynasty


    Surface being laid on Bandon Road flyover. Surely we'll see a phased opening of this scheme.

    It wouldn't take much effort to open the flyover for Westbound traffic anyways.

    It's now possible to drive from one end of the flyover to the other. All that's stopping you is a few cones and wire fence. Oh the temptation!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Progress Update No. 62:
    Bandon/Sarsfield Interchanges Upgrade

    Progress Update - Reminder

    Friday 8th March 2013

    Motorists are reminded that major surfacing works are planned on the South Ring Road immediately west of Bandon Road Roundabout over this coming weekend. Lane restrictions and localised diversions will be in place affecting westbound traffic from early morning on both Saturday 9th March 2013 and Sunday 10th March 2013 and motorists are advised to take an alternative route where possible. We expect that the lane restrictions will be removed by early afternoon on both Saturday and Sunday.

    If there are any queries or comments in relation to the ongoing works or in relation to the upcoming traffic management arrangements, site staff can be contacted at the above number, on the freephone 24 hour helpline number 1800 932 046 or by email on n25@ccc-site.com.


  • Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭neddynasty


    Progress Update 66:
    Bandon/Sarsfield Interchanges Upgrade
    Progress Update
    Wednesday 20th March 2013

    The first two bridge beams for the Sarsfield Road flyover structure were delivered to site on yesterday Tuesday 19th March 2013. The attached photographs show various stages of the beam delivery process, entering the Jack Lynch Tunnel, at the Kinsale Road flyover and at Sarsfield Road Roundabout. A further two beams will be delivered on each of the remaining days of this week including Saturday 23rd March with the beams due to arrive at the Jack Lynch Tunnel around lunchtime on each day.

    Night time working will continue over the coming nights as weather conditions allow mainly focused on the eastbound traffic lanes heading east from the Sarsfield Road Roundabout. Lane restrictions will be in place in this area from about 8.00 p.m. each evening but no significant delays to traffic are anticipated.

    As always, those with queries or concerns in relation to any aspect of the scheme can contact us on 021-4969280 or 021-4965830 during working hours or on the freephone helpline number 1800 932 046, or by email on n25@ccc-site.com.


  • Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭neddynasty


    Saw the two beams that were delivered yesterday. They're lying in the section between the 2 roundabouts. Only thing I can say about them is they are massive!!! Tried to take a photo on my phone this morning but it was crap due to the sun pointing directly at the phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    Drove in the Ballincollig bypass yesterday in daylight. Almost tempted to go over the Bandon flyover except for the barriers.

    Have to say one thing, the Sarsfield Roundabout since being altered is now very tight. Should possibly have made it larger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    Does anyone know where the bridge beams originated? They are massive and I must say I admire the skill of the guys driving those trucks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭highwaymaniac


    kub wrote: »
    Does anyone know where the bridge beams originated? They are massive and I must say I admire the skill of the guys driving those trucks.

    Banagher Precast Concrete Ltd, Banagher, Co. Offaly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    Glad to see they did not come in off a boat. Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭555guy


    met the 2 trucks on the M7 on Tuesday with the beams ... absolutely huge things, being hauled by Aylward Heavy Haulage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭bg07


    Picture of the beams currently stored on site:-

    2013-03-24122600_zps203dcc5c.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    Sorry I have no doubt this has been answered before, but when is the whole scheme due to be finished? And realistically when will it actually be finished?

    I commute from Ballyphehane to Curraheen for work so I cannot wait for the project to be finished!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭bg07


    Originally scheduled for completion in Q3 (July I think). At the moment though I can't see the Sarsfield road over bridge being ready for traffic until October/November.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    bg07 wrote: »
    Originally scheduled for completion in Q3 (July I think). At the moment though I can't see the Sarsfield road over bridge being ready for traffic until October/November.
    Its hard to know though isnt it ? when the beams do finally go in and if the weather stays dryish there could be a mighty push on.

    Their updates havent given much detail recently they seem to only comment on whats happening in the week ahead .


  • Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭neddynasty


    bg07 wrote: »
    Originally scheduled for completion in Q3 (July I think). At the moment though I can't see the Sarsfield road over bridge being ready for traffic until October/November.

    I think they'll make it on time. The earth box ramp on the western side of the flyover is well on it's way. They've started on the eastern side ramp too and are progressing it quickly. Throw on the beams, bit of tarmac and you have a functioning flyover!!

    They were putting up crash barriers this morning just after the eastern ramp of the Bandon Flyover. That'll have that flyover complete in another 4 weeks i reckon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭moyners


    Its hard to know though isnt it ? when the beams do finally go in and if the weather stays dryish there could be a mighty push on.

    Their updates havent given much detail recently they seem to only comment on whats happening in the week ahead .
    Maybe they won't be done by July but I can't see it taking till November. Almost all the major groundworks at sarsfield road are pretty much done apart from the ramp on the eastern side, which is flying up. The bandon road roundabout flyover is essentially done apart from lighting etc. I'd agree once the beams go up they'll be able to concentrate totally on finishing the sarsfield flyover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭moyners


    snap :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Prowetod


    Am I correct in saying there won't be a big support mound in the middle of the Sarfields Rd Roundabout as is the case in the Bandon Rd Roundabout?


  • Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭neddynasty


    Prowetod wrote: »
    Am I correct in saying there won't be a big support mound in the middle of the Sarfields Rd Roundabout as is the case in the Bandon Rd Roundabout?

    Yep that is correct. Just the pillars that are there at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 JM4


    Just witnessed delivery of two more beams to site on the western side of the Bandon Road flyover. Must say great credit due to the skills of the workers involved, the truck drivers, the crane drivers and the ground staff. They made the delivery look so simple. Well done.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭stiimpreza1984


    neddynasty wrote: »
    Yep that is correct. Just the pillars that are there at the moment.
    Interesting I suppose the diameter of the Sars roundabout is smaller than the Bandon Road Roundabout hence the room for pillars and not a big support mound in the middle like the Kinsale and Bandon Road flyovers. Be interesting to see though the single pillars in the Sars Roundabout (centre section) take the weight of 16 beams end to end on each of the 8 pilliars I hope there wont be subsidence issues:eek: down the line and that concrete piling will stand up to the job in the foundations of them 8 pillars in the centre section.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭alanucc


    As I understand it, the decision to not use an earth box in the centre of sarsfield roundabout was to do with minimising visual impact. I think the EIS had something to say on it, but i'll leave it to someone else to find the quote!

    http://www.corkrdo.ie/n25_sarsfield_road_bandon_road_interchanges_publications.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    I saw two of these last Friday on my way up to Dublin. Two massive lorries with massive beams on the back of them going southbound between Cashel and New Inn on the M8. I wondered what else they could POSSIBLY be for!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭Bards


    Extract From http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/cameras-designed-to-beef-up-safety-of-motorists-in-tunnel-227308.html

    Meanwhile, surfacing works will continue on the eastbound lanes between Sarsfield Rd Roundabout and Pouladuff overbridge over the coming nights.

    The final surfacing layer in this area will then be laid during daylight hours on the mornings of next Saturday and Sunday.

    In order to facilitate the works, eastbound traffic will be restricted to one lane on both days from approximately 6am.

    It is expected that all traffic lanes will be reopened by early afternoon on both days.

    The works in this area are being carried out over the weekend in order to minimise disruption to traffic.

    Nevertheless, even with weekend traffic volumes delays should be anticipated in this area on both Saturday and Sunday morning and motorists are strongly advised to take an alternative route where ever possible.

    Nighttime works on the scheme will also continue throughout next week, with the placing of the bridge beams at the Sarsfield Rd flyover scheduled to get under way at 8pm next Monday.

    The works are being carried out at night to minimise traffic disruption and localised diversions will be in place in the Sarsfield Rd Roundabout area from approximately 8pm on each day next week.

    Following on from completion of the bridge beam works, the focus will switch to construction of the approach ramps to the new flyover.

    It is still hoped to open both flyovers to traffic by this coming July.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭alanucc


    Anyone else going for a gawk at the installation of the beams on Monday night?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭555guy


    alanucc wrote: »
    Anyone else going for a gawk at the installation of the beams on Monday night?

    Hopefully they'll have a time-lapse of it like when they demolished the footbridge.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erYm0kAbKpI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,445 ✭✭✭run_Forrest_run


    alanucc wrote: »
    Anyone else going for a gawk at the installation of the beams on Monday night?

    no beams up yet, mind you I wouldn't have put a duck out in that weather last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭paulhardman


    This morning's Update 71:
    Unfortunately the high winds meant that beam placement works could not get underway as planned on the night of Monday 8th April 2013. However, subject to weather conditions the intention is to get the beam placement works underway overnight tonight and it is still hoped to complete this element of the works before the end of the week. Lane restrictions and localised diversions will therefore be in place in the Sarsfield Road Roundabout area from approximately 8.00 p.m. each night for the remaining nights of this week.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I was down staying with a friend in West Cork the past few days and saw the work on these junctions. It is at a very advanced stage. The beams for the Sarsfield Road junction bridge were there on site and ready for lifting.

    If they get their finger out I'd say it could be ready by the end of the summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭harry21


    Anybody notice the section of crash barrier on southside of the westbound lane that has sunk. They have a crew fixing it all weekend from the headlands side and they were there this morning too.

    Also on the south side of the Sarsfield Road roundabout, on the approach lane from sarsfield road the kerbing has sunk and pulled back from the road by at least 6 inches.

    Worrying indicators of the future!!

    I also contend that at least a portion of retaining wall for the the Bandon Road flyover is not true (leaning outwards!!). I have to get out my level!!:D


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