Is the Western World anti-man?

Women are heroes men are zeroes

Neil3030 wrote: »

It's a crying shame. Madness even. Gone are the days when you could stare at a woman and face no consequences, or leapfrog female colleagues with tried and tested hiring biases.

yeah those TV adverts for diet coke were a total disgrace

Kev W wrote: »

Examples?

The gender wage gap.

Samuel Scary Urination wrote: »

I think it is clear to see for anyone who can think for themselves that the western world is currently extremely anti-man.

I can think for myself, and I don't think at all that the Western world is "anti-man". I see lobby groups lobbying, but I don't think they're at all representative of the general population in society.

I'm sick to the back teeth of attempts being made to make me feel bad about my masculinity. I'm a man, and I'm proud of that fact. I hope everyone feels the same way about themselves, even those who have changed gender.

Learn to shut them out. You should be proud to be who you are. People who will try to put you back in your place and humiliate you are a fact of life. Don't let them make you feel like that.

The equality movement has gone too far.

I'm a man too and I too am proud of that fact. I'm also a reasonable person who can think for myself, and I think it's less of an "equality movement", and more of an increase in a "whingers movement", a movement where anyone can be a member, and they all share the same basic ideology - the world doesn't suit them.

I have no problem with people fighting for what they believe in and working towards a world which better suits them (it's how humanity as a whole evolved - we don't adapt to our environment, we adapt our environment to suit ourselves), but there's a world of a difference between those people, and whingers, who expect everyone else to do all the work. That's not how the world works.

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Eh, no. The other way around: There's a book about it because it's true. Not one book by the way, many

Helen Smith wrote a recent book about it also called Men On Strike. Short interview here regarding her views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCpBa4ITEcI

There are books about Batman, that doesn't prove Batman is real.

That clip seems mostly focused on marriage, it's a bit much to use that as evidence that the western world is ant-man. If anything the elements of marriage that are disadvantageous to men are holdovers from the times when marriage for all intents and purposes conferred ownership of a woman to a man.

There's certainly an inequality there that needs to be addressed but it's not as if a woman has never had to pay alimony to a man after a divorce, for example. Alimony is itself kind of a bull**** concept regardless of who's paying whom.

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Eh, no. The other way around: There's a book about it because it's true. Not one book by the way, many

Helen Smith wrote a recent book about it also called Men On Strike. Short interview here regarding her views.

Yeah, they only write books about true things you know! I read this one about how there's a digital signature encoded into our DNA that proves God made us all. They wouldn't write a book about it if it wasn't true! There was another one about how the world is secretly run by a group of lizards in human-suits. They wouldn't have written a book about it if it wasn't true. :rolleyes:

Dude, if you give a publishing company a cheque and they'll publish anything you like.

Kev W wrote: »

That clip seems mostly focused on marriage, it's a bit much to use that as evidence that the western world is ant-man. If anything the elements of marriage that are disadvantageous to men are holdovers from the times when marriage for all intents and purposes conferred ownership of a woman to a man.

But that's the point. By abolishing all the aspects which were unfair to women (rightly) but turning a total blind eye to the other side of the coin, the institution has now become profoundly anti-male - and men are regularly shouted down for pointing this out.

Samuel Scary Urination wrote: »

I think it is clear to see for anyone who can think for themselves that the western world is currently extremely anti-man. The examples are everywhere, from gender quotas to cries of "sexual harrassment" for being stared at. Misandry is now acceptable in most areas of life, whilst any attempt to point this out is usually received with a backlash of abuse, and quite ironically, more misandry.

In my opinion the media and large portions of the Internet are doing their best to attach a shame to being male, similarly to what's happening to white people. Somehow it's my fault for being male and therefore benefitting from this imaginary "male privilege", and I should be ashamed of that. Nonsense.

I'm sick to the back teeth of attempts being made to make me feel bad about my masculinity. I'm a man, and I'm proud of that fact. I hope everyone feels the same way about themselves, even those who have changed gender.

The equality movement has gone too far.

you're actually right... :-/