Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

Ascii · 23-02-2015 9:08pm

http://www.mayogaa.com/news/353111/Update_Mayo_Senior_Football_Panel

Can't say I am upset or surprised about Varley. IMO he was always hanging on by his finger tips. Never thought he brought much too the setup. A little surprised with Coen. Would have liked to seen a little more of him.

naughto · 23-02-2015 9:29pm

Agree with varley being dropped he didn't bring any thing to the team

MaroonAndGreen · 23-02-2015 9:58pm

That's two forwards from last year's Championship 26 out (Coen & Varley)

Management must have high hopes for Diarmuid O'Connor, Mark Ronaldson etc

MaroonAndGreen · 23-02-2015 10:10pm

Surprised to see Adam Gallagher gone too

Cosmo Kramer · 23-02-2015 10:12pm

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Surprised to see Adam Gallagher gone too

Just to the Under 21s though so he might be back?

MaroonAndGreen · 23-02-2015 10:14pm

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

Just to the Under 21s though so he might be back?

Yeah true!

Panrich · 23-02-2015 10:17pm

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

Just to the Under 21s though so he might be back?

Not too sure. Stephen Coen , O Connor, Hall and Durcan are all u21 too.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 23-02-2015 10:38pm

Varley had been floating around the previous two years, thought his best performances were in 2012 where he gave a good account of himself against Dublin and Donegal. Hadn't made a huge impact since. I think it's brave of C&H to wield the axe in relation in to Duffy, I'm disappointed I didn't get to see him in action and thought he could have brought some strength to the team but no point stringing him along if the management don't feel he has a place in the team.

I doubt Gallagher has been permanently cut from the team. I would say that C&H think he needs a bit more development at underage level. Bit more strength and conditioning. Based on his performances last year alone he won't be away for too long.

MaroonAndGreen · 23-02-2015 11:04pm

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Varley had been floating around the previous two years, thought his best performances were in 2012 where he gave a good account of himself against Dublin and Donegal. Hadn't made a huge impact since. I think it's brave of C&H to wield the axe in relation in to Duffy, I'm disappointed I didn't get to see him in action and thought he could have brought some strength to the team but no point stringing him along if the management don't feel he has a place in the team.

I doubt Gallagher has been permanently cut from the team. I would say that C&H think he needs a bit more development at underage level. Bit more strength and conditioning. Based on his performances last year alone he won't be away for too long.

I would have thought he'd be one of the easier players to drop considering he hasn't made a championship appearance or been involved that much?

Defiler Of The Coffin · 23-02-2015 11:15pm

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

I would have thought he'd be one of the easier players to drop considering he hasn't made a championship appearance or been involved that much?

Given all the hype that surrounded him they could have procrastinated and given him a few appearances in the league, or at least *one* competitive outing at least. It wouldn't have been an unpopular choice. At least they are showing decisiveness, that much is encouraging.

howiya · 25-02-2015 8:50am

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/croke-park-bailout-to-save-mayo-millions-31020519.html

Instead of using negative terms like bailout the author would be much better off focusing on the positives and the potential to help counties.

All debt should be centralised so all county boards would be able to avail of lower interest rates that the GAA would be able to access on their behalf instead of paying huge amounts of interest to the banks unnecessarily.

Obviously there would need to be a mechanism to prevent county boards running up debt unnecessarily

Poor_old_gill · 25-02-2015 12:51pm

howiya wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/croke-park-bailout-to-save-mayo-millions-31020519.html

Instead of using negative terms like bailout the author would be much better off focusing on the positives and the potential to help counties.

All debt should be centralised so all county boards would be able to avail of lower interest rates that the GAA would be able to access on their behalf instead of paying huge amounts of interest to the banks unnecessarily.

Obviously there would need to be a mechanism to prevent county boards running up debt unnecessarily

I think Colm O Rourke has been floating this idea for a while now and its a great plan.

All loan arrangements should be handled like this- that 200k can now go back to the grassroots which is a great outcome for all.

Brusna · 26-02-2015 10:10pm

Mayo Team v Monaghan

Hennelly, Cunniffe, Keane, Higgins, Keegan, Coen, Durcan, Vaughan, SOShea, McLoughlin, AOShea, D.OConnor, Ronaldson, COConnor, Doherty

Strong line up for an important game. We really need the 2 points here.

Fr Tod Umptious · 27-02-2015 8:03pm

Brusna wrote: »

Mayo Team v Monaghan

Hennelly, Cunniffe, Keane, Higgins, Keegan, Coen, Durcan, Vaughan, SOShea, McLoughlin, AOShea, D.OConnor, Ronaldson, COConnor, Doherty

Strong line up for an important game. We really need the 2 points here.

Yes decent mix of experience and experiment there.

Blackjack · 01-03-2015 5:29pm

Was listening on Mid west. Monaghan terribly indisciplined, effectively handed us the game. To be fair it seems like the team has gelled well over the last 3 weeks. Still had 10 wides but if what I heard was correct 14 of our 17 scores came from play. I'll take it anyway it comes as its 2 league points and a good chunk of points difference.
AOS at 14 seems to have worked well, Doc did well again, as did Ronaldson. Derry will be a different prospect, a win there would certainly do our aims of retaining division 1 status no harm at all.

jeffred · 01-03-2015 5:30pm

Good win - missed what the first red card was for, going to have to watch highlights later.

Fr Tod Umptious · 01-03-2015 5:45pm

jeffred wrote: »

Good win - missed what the first red card was for, going to have to watch highlights later.

You'll be doing well.

Games that are not originally televised, on TG4 or Setanta, rarely appear in the RTE or TG4 highlights shows

Brusna · 01-03-2015 5:55pm

jeffred wrote: »

Good win - missed what the first red card was for, going to have to watch highlights later.

Stephen Gollogly lashed out at Jason Doherty after the ball had gone. He didn't do any damage but it looked bad and the linesman spotted it.

jeffred · 01-03-2015 6:55pm

Brusna wrote: »

Stephen Gollogly lashed out at Jason Doherty after the ball had gone. He didn't do any damage but it looked bad and the linesman spotted it.

Thanks the rte or gaa tickers didn't say why.

Blackjack · 01-03-2015 6:57pm

jeffred wrote: »

Good win - missed what the first red card was for, going to have to watch highlights later.

MWR mentioned it was an off the ball punch, gollogly punched Doherty.

km79 · 01-03-2015 8:37pm

jeffred wrote: »

Good win - missed what the first red card was for, going to have to watch highlights later.

on now

Fr Tod Umptious · 01-03-2015 8:59pm

km79 wrote: »

on now

Brilliant, I'm recording it.

Surprised y then are on.

Fowler87 · 01-03-2015 9:53pm

Strange performance today. Played some good stuff but then made some crazy decisions especially in our shooting. 2nd game I thought Keegan was well below bar and I don't think Coen is good enough to be at 6 (yet). Delighted with the ovation Keane received. Has been outstanding in the league and looks like he has made FB his own now. Great to see the subs contributing with well taken goals too.

glack · 01-03-2015 10:45pm

So much indiscipline today from both sides but some real nastiness from Monaghan. I had thought the first red card was harsh at the game but looking at it on league sunday, you could see the intent was there. Lucky that Ronaldson wasn't hurt during the second red card offence and Monaghan's number 10 should also have been red carded as he clearly delivered a thump!

yop · 01-03-2015 10:52pm

Good to get the win, some decent performances from DOC and Durkan, Turbo was superb and AOS at FF caused them havoc.
As said some of the decision making on scoring was poor, could have had another 2 goals, then dropped the ball into the keepers hands twice.
Vaughan messing at the back and some slow passing cost us a few points.

Seems to be a regular thing now for refs to be the highlight of a match, across the board.
How SOS was black carded is beyond me, AOS was dragged down yet no black card, an offence that Denis Bastick got blacked for for Dublin today.
1st red I also missed, 2nd was shocking, I honestly think that lad needs an extended ban for what he did, the thumb of the hoarding showed the force he was thrown against it, could have caused him a serious injury.
Monaghan could have had another couple of cards, midfielder having a hissy at the ref and bouncing the ball at him got no card and another drag down on AOS in the 1st half also should have got a card.
As for the advantage and 10 yard "bring it forward" rule, confused me and everyone around me.

Some lovely scores taken and great to see Michael Forde get in for a game.
Freeman once more didn't take his chances which Mickey goals did.

Off to Derry now next week, any idea what sort of time to travel from Castlebar?
Is it hard to find up there?

Fr Tod Umptious · 02-03-2015 12:36am

How did Monaghan setup ?
Were they 15 men behind the ball like Tyrone or s little less ?

How did Mayo "figure" it out this time compared to last.

The League Sunday show (which I have to say is a vast improvement on other years), seemed to suggest it was the positioning of AOS at full forward that was the difference.

davegrohl48 · 02-03-2015 12:56am

Didn't Freezer goal, so don't see how you can say not taking his cgances. I think he could be a great bench option. Bring him in seeking out a goal in the final twenty minutes. He hasn't been doin so well starting games. Good to see that AOS laid on scores as well.
Would love to see Keegan tried at midfield.
When Chris Barrett is fit think he will come back in at centre back. We need someone tigerish on breaking ball. He's also an experienced big game player who can distribute well.

Brusna · 02-03-2015 7:35am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

How did Monaghan setup ?
Were they 15 men behind the ball like Tyrone or s little less ?

How did Mayo "figure" it out this time compared to last.

The League Sunday show (which I have to say is a vast improvement on other years), seemed to suggest it was the positioning of AOS at full forward that was the difference.

Monaghan were nothing like Tyrone. They were playing good attacking football in the first half. Don't know why the indiscipline crept in, but after the sending off they lost their way.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 02-03-2015 3:16pm

Very happy with the intensity shown by Mayo yesterday, everything that was missing from the Tyrone match was back in spades. Good tackling high up the field, moving the ball quickly after kick-outs, winning all the dirty ball in the forwards. Defence was very tight, I don't think Monaghan had even one chance at goal. I would say Kevin Keane has the FB position nailed down for this year. Great to see there's plenty of competition for places in the squad and that's before the likes of Parsons, Moran and Dillon are back from injury.

I think some of Monaghan's lashing out was down to the fact that Mayo frustrated them so much, every ball was contested and they were given hardly any space at all.

ColeTrain · 02-03-2015 4:08pm

AOS should have the number 14 jersey. He is capable of causing big problems to any full back line.

mayo.mick · 02-03-2015 4:13pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Gb1oWp9bY

glack · 02-03-2015 4:16pm

How the Monaghan number 10 didn't get red for that is beyond me!!

MayoAreMagic · 02-03-2015 6:09pm

Decent win, but monaghan self-destructed in fairness. We shouldn't get too worked up by the win. Keane is going well, but the mayo-donegal game down the line will be the acid test.
Personally, I don't think he should have the position nailed down as of yet. We should interchange depending on the job at hand, cafferkey is more than capable of winning that place back, and a better fit for certain opponents.

Wolf Club · 02-03-2015 6:13pm

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Decent win, but monaghan self-destructed in fairness. We shouldn't get too worked up by the win. Keane is going well, but the mayo-donegal game down the line will be the acid test.
Personally, I don't think he should have the position nailed down as of yet. We should interchange depending on the job at hand, cafferkey is more than capable of winning that place back, and a better fit for certain opponents.

In some ways it's a shame that Donaghy wasn't available for the match in Killarney, the result may have been different but it would have been good to see Keane up against a very physical, antagonising full forward.

Always_Running · 02-03-2015 6:31pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

How did Monaghan setup ?
Were they 15 men behind the ball like Tyrone or s little less ?

How did Mayo "figure" it out this time compared to last.

The League Sunday show (which I have to say is a vast improvement on other years), seemed to suggest it was the positioning of AOS at full forward that was the difference.

In Ulster only Tyrone,Armagh,Donegal set themselves up with many men behind the ball. Down,Derry,Monaghan,fermanagh play a more open brand of football but leave themselves too open in defence. Mayo could easily have scored 5-20 yesterday however Monaghan did collapse after the first sending off.

seligehgit · 02-03-2015 6:53pm

Improved performance by Mayo.Referee was particularly poor.He was whistle happy,inhibiting whatever inclination there was for a free flowing contest.His decision to black card Seamus O Shea was mind boggling,seemed to be a pay back for the initial Monaghan red card.He failed to black card a Monaghan player for a blatant pull down on Aidan O Shea in the second half.One good consultation with an umpire for a sending off.

Monaghan truly lost their discipline,they were well in the game until the initial sending off.Their number 10 was extremely impressive.

Disappointing re the 3 missed goal chances in the first half.Aidan O Shea had a super game in at full forward..possible road map for dealing with more defensively minded teams.Although at times the requisite quick delivery was lacking.Kevin Mc mixed the good with the bad.Lee Keegan has yet to reach full pelt this season.

Colm Boyle's introduction definitely made a difference in the second half.As mentioned previously although Alan Freeman bagged a goal he had two poor wides.

Great to see Kevin Keane performing well at full back.It would have been interesting to see him compete with a Donaghy like full forward.Ger Cafferkey will be chomping at the bit.

Fowler87 · 02-03-2015 7:42pm

MayoAreMagic wrote:

Decent win, but monaghan self-destructed in fairness. We shouldn't get too worked up by the win. Keane is going well, but the mayo-donegal game down the line will be the acid test. Personally, I don't think he should have the position nailed down as of yet. We should interchange depending on the job at hand, cafferkey is more than capable of winning that place back, and a better fit for certain opponents.

Without doubt Cafferky is capable of winning his place but it's Keane to lose now. Badly needed competition in a vital position now though

keane2097 · 02-03-2015 9:43pm

mayo.mick wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Gb1oWp9bY

Is that video from yesterday or last year? Mislabelled I presume, Monaghan were Division 2 last year right?

Blackjack · 02-03-2015 9:53pm

keane2097 wrote: »

Is that video from yesterday or last year? Mislabelled I presume, Monaghan were Division 2 last year right?

Yeah, it's mislabeled. new Mayo Jersey, and Mark Ronaldson wearing one would give it away if it really needed forensic examination.

mayo.mick · 02-03-2015 11:09pm

keane2097 wrote: »

Is that video from yesterday or last year? Mislabelled I presume, Monaghan were Division 2 last year right?

I'd say its just a typo. Didn't spot it till you mentioned it!

Fr Tod Umptious · 02-03-2015 11:16pm

Its actually footage from the famous Mayo v Monaghan challenge game were they knocked seven colors of s**t out of each other.

Or was that 2013 ?

Blackjack · 02-03-2015 11:20pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Its actually footage from the famous Mayo v Monaghan challenge game were they knocked seven colors of s**t out of each other.

Or was that 2013 ?

No, it's definetly a typo.

Cu Baire · 03-03-2015 12:13am

Black card for Seamus O Shea was deserved as he clearly deliberately tripped the Monaghan player.

yop · 03-03-2015 9:23am

Cu Baire wrote: »

Black card for Seamus O Shea was deserved as he clearly deliberately tripped the Monaghan player.

Look at the footage, SOS collided with his back. Was a crazy black.

Cu Baire · 03-03-2015 9:35am

yop wrote: »

Look at the footage, SOS collided with his back. Was a crazy black.

I did look at the footage and I suggest you should too. He clearly kicks out and trips the Monaghan player. He did run into his back also but the black card was correctly awarded for a deliberate trip.
The only problem I have with the black card is inconsistency. If applied correctly there would have been 4 or 5 given out in every game shown on Sunday evening.

yop · 03-03-2015 10:02am

Cu Baire wrote: »

I did look at the footage and I suggest you should too. He clearly kicks out and trips the Monaghan player. He did run into his back also but the black card was correctly awarded for a deliberate trip.
The only problem I have with the black card is inconsistency. If applied correctly there would have been 4 or 5 given out in every game shown on Sunday evening.

I was sitting about 15 yards from it and saw it Sunday night and on TnaG, plenty of people were bewildered about, a push in the back now warrants a black while AOS was dragged down on 2 occassions but none deserved a black. Farcial stuff.

Cu Baire · 03-03-2015 10:14am

yop wrote: »

I was sitting about 15 yards from it and saw it Sunday night and on TnaG, plenty of people were bewildered about, a push in the back now warrants a black while AOS was dragged down on 2 occassions but none deserved a black. Farcial stuff.

A push in the back does not warrant a black but a deliberate trip does and that is what it was given for.
Dragging down a player does deserve a black and if that is what happened they should have been given.
I am only commenting on the incident that I saw and I looked at it a few times without bias.
You can blame ref all you want for things he got wrong but that was NOT one of them.

davegrohl48 · 03-03-2015 11:54am

I much prefer a ref who is willing to deal out black cards. It is usually marginal if a black card is in the wrong. The worse case for Mayo is a ref who is slow with the black card.
We have to accept now n then there will be marginal cases n we have to back the refs judgement.
God help us if the black card was scrapped what level of fouling would now be in the game?
The ref sees these incidents in real time with many moving players. Tis very difficult.

seligehgit · 03-03-2015 7:12pm

Cu Baire wrote: »

Black card for Seamus O Shea was deserved as he clearly deliberately tripped the Monaghan player.

I was at the Bacon factory end of the stand,missed that.Easy one to miss with the play moving so quickly,subtle trip.Good spot by the referee,highlights the onerous task that referees have in the modern game.Fair black card having watched the TG4 highlights.Having said that I thought Rory Hickey had a very poor day at the office.

Always_Running · 04-03-2015 6:42pm

No U21s for Derry game as Coen d o Connor Durcan hall all released to prepare for leitrim u21 championship game next Wednesday 11th a win their and it's a game against Galway the following week.

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