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The Breast Feeding Support Thread
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Two week check up today and my little girl is over her birth weight. Isn't it mad how happy hearing news like that can make you. Just coming out the other side of a growth spurt and a few tough nights, hearing she is thriving has made it all even more worth while.
Congratulations, that's brilliant news
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So, if have a plan of action. The paediatrician has given me 3 weeks. the lactation consultant said she has an immature suck and is burning loads of calories trying to get enough. So I'm feeding and expressing from the other side and then topping her up with this when she's finished feeding. It's tough going cos I'm expressing about 8 times a day.. But I can see the difference already! Hopefully it will show on the scale tomorrow
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Great admiration for your determination cbyrd with all your other kiddios to look after too! I'm sure you will see the difference tomorrow.So, if have a plan of action. The paediatrician has given me 3 weeks. the lactation consultant said she has an immature suck and is burning loads of calories trying to get enough. So I'm feeding and expressing from the other side and then topping her up with this when she's finished feeding. It's tough going cos I'm expressing about 8 times a day.. But I can see the difference already! Hopefully it will show on the scale tomorrow
I had great intentions to start pumping but the pump is still sitting in the cupboard from its last use 2 yrs ago ðŸ˜0 -
So, if have a plan of action. The paediatrician has given me 3 weeks. the lactation consultant said she has an immature suck and is burning loads of calories trying to get enough. So I'm feeding and expressing from the other side and then topping her up with this when she's finished feeding. It's tough going cos I'm expressing about 8 times a day.. But I can see the difference already! Hopefully it will show on the scale tomorrow
I don't envy you with the pumping but I'd do it myself if that was the solution to my problem. Just out of interest did the LC say that your baby's immature suck would right itself with time? Hopefully it will and you can cut back the pumping. I do it once a day myself and for me that's enough!0 -
Long post sorry.
So my bubs is 4 months and just found out his tongue tie, snipped around 5 weeks, has reattached
Said I would share the background in case anyone reading the thread in future has similar issues. When I was researching what could be up with my bubs I couldn't find much on it.
He has always fed frequently and for long periods at a time but I thought this was standard for a newborn, then thought he was a hungry baby, but at 4 months he is feeding nearly every 2 hours so said I'd get it checked out.
After the tongue tie was first snipped, the latch improved and once we were off nipple shields, he was no longer falling on and off. So I had thought all was fixed. His weight gain was fine too, more than fine.
Turns out weight gain can actually be linked to tongue tie. I think this is because the boob is being stimulated so often, albeit with an inefficient suck. So my body is making loads of milk. He is not able to empty the boob so is only getting the milk at the start of the feed. This milk is high in sugar but low in fat so it's not filling, so he feeds more often and takes in more of the high sugar milk to fill him up. So weight gain was grand cos of this. He had green poos though which indicated the high sugar intake. Just pointing this out cos I consulted with 2 lactation consultants who said that green poos were normal if weight gain was good and baby was happy. But I consulted another LC who made the link between the green poos from oversupply of milk and a tongue tie.
So I'm gonna get tongue tie re-snipped so that bubs will hopefully be able to finish the boob, reduce feeding time and slow the weight gain.
I wish I had gotten a LC to check earlier that it had not reattached rather than put LO through the re-snip now - I feel he will be more aware now of what is happening to him
Anyway, will post again afterwards to say if there is any improvement in latch and efficiency of feeds.
So TLDR my advice for anyone getting LO's tongue tie snipped is to get it checked that it doesn't reattach. Cos to me the symptoms of re-attachment weren't obvious but if I had had it checked, I would have known earlier.0 -
Long post sorry.
So my bubs is 4 months and just found out his tongue tie, snipped around 5 weeks, has reattached
Said I would share the background in case anyone reading the thread in future has similar issues. When I was researching what could be up with my bubs I couldn't find much on it.
He has always fed frequently and for long periods at a time but I thought this was standard for a newborn, then thought he was a hungry baby, but at 4 months he is feeding nearly every 2 hours so said I'd get it checked out.
After the tongue tie was first snipped, the latch improved and once we were off nipple shields, he was no longer falling on and off. So I had thought all was fixed. His weight gain was fine too, more than fine.
Turns out weight gain can actually be linked to tongue tie. I think this is because the boob is being stimulated so often, albeit with an inefficient suck. So my body is making loads of milk. He is not able to empty the boob so is only getting the milk at the start of the feed. This milk is high in sugar but low in fat so it's not filling, so he feeds more often and takes in more of the high sugar milk to fill him up. So weight gain was grand cos of this. He had green poos though which indicated the high sugar intake. Just pointing this out cos I consulted with 2 lactation consultants who said that green poos were normal if weight gain was good and baby was happy. But I consulted another LC who made the link between the green poos from oversupply of milk and a tongue tie.
So I'm gonna get tongue tie re-snipped so that bubs will hopefully be able to finish the boob, reduce feeding time and slow the weight gain.
I wish I had gotten a LC to check earlier that it had not reattached rather than put LO through the re-snip now - I feel he will be more aware now of what is happening to him
Anyway, will post again afterwards to say if there is any improvement in latch and efficiency of feeds.
So TLDR my advice for anyone getting LO's tongue tie snipped is to get it checked that it doesn't reattach. Cos to me the symptoms of re-attachment weren't obvious but if I had had it checked, I would have known earlier.
Sorry to hear Marz that you have to get it done again. And thanks for sharing your experiences. I really feel that hearing so many different experiences helps educate us on breastfeeding.
All things considered though - you've done your absolute best to make this work. You really shouldn't beat yourself up over not spitting it had reattached. There are so many reasons a 4 month old would feed frequently how the heck can you land on the one reason first time? While I don't have experience with tongue tie and snipping, 4 months is still really young. He might react a little more than the first time but he'll still get over it and won't remember a thing. Fair play to you for getting it done and keeping up breastfeeding. That's admirable
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Sorry to hear Marz that you have to get it done again. And thanks for sharing your experiences. I really feel that hearing so many different experiences helps educate us on breastfeeding.
All things considered though - you've done your absolute best to make this work. You really shouldn't beat yourself up over not spitting it had reattached. There are so many reasons a 4 month old would feed frequently how the heck can you land on the one reason first time? While I don't have experience with tongue tie and snipping, 4 months is still really young. He might react a little more than the first time but he'll still get over it and won't remember a thing. Fair play to you for getting it done and keeping up breastfeeding. That's admirable
Thanks kandr10
When I heard it had reattached, my heart sank, felt I was back to those difficult, early days of tongue tie, nipple shields etc. But I am glad we know now and can hopefully sort it out. Bit nervous about us both re-learning a new latch but hopefully it will go well.
Meant to say the first two lactation consultants I spoke to were at the maternity hospital and at a coffee morning. The third one I spoke to I had out at my house and paid for the visit. So it paid off having her take the time to concentrate on my bubs rather than waiting in a queue to see a LC like at the hospital.0 -
bovril wrote:I don't envy you with the pumping but I'd do it myself if that was the solution to my problem. Just out of interest did the LC say that your baby's immature suck would right itself with time? Hopefully it will and you can cut back the pumping. I do it once a day myself and for me that's enough!
Yes, she said as she gains weight and gets stronger her suck will slow down and not be as frantic. She called me today ( Saturday) to see how we're getting on. Through chatting about her birth weight figured out that it was probably from being given a dodi when she was in special care, they put glycerin on it to make sure she sucked it. So she got into the habit of a fast but not strong suck which made my supply drop. I can see it improving already. the better my supply is the slower and stronger she's feeding.
The LC also said she will try to get me an industrial strength pump for a month. I have to say that I am gobsmacked at how much she is helping and how proud she made me feel for going to the effort of feeding and pumping, but as I explained to her when my now 5 year old went to bottles the sickness from the dairy in the formula drove me demented AND I can just roll over in the night and feed her beside me and not have to get up for bottles! win win 0 -
cbyrd, well done, that's not an easy breastfeeding journey to have at all but you're playing an absolute blinder. It sounds like bubs has really trend a corner with the weight gain and long may it continue!
We've hit the six months to mark with feeding here, I'm really chuffed I had a mental goal of three months, and in the early few days that seemed like such an impossible task - breastfeeding is HARD starting out!! But we worked through tongue ties and lip ties,cracked and bleeding nipples, shallow latches and all night feeds (that still happens 
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Yes, she said as she gains weight and gets stronger her suck will slow down and not be as frantic. She called me today ( Saturday) to see how we're getting on. Through chatting about her birth weight figured out that it was probably from being given a dodi when she was in special care, they put glycerin on it to make sure she sucked it. So she got into the habit of a fast but not strong suck which made my supply drop. I can see it improving already. the better my supply is the slower and stronger she's feeding.
The LC also said she will try to get me an industrial strength pump for a month. I have to say that I am gobsmacked at how much she is helping and how proud she made me feel for going to the effort of feeding and pumping, but as I explained to her when my now 5 year old went to bottles the sickness from the dairy in the formula drove me demented AND I can just roll over in the night and feed her beside me and not have to get up for bottles! win win
Fair play to you. Also, it is great to hear about overcoming issues and getting good help and support for bf 0 -
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Can I just say how much I absolutely adore breastfeeding. We haven't hit the 6 month mark yet but that was my original goal and I've now revised it to get to the 12 month mark. It really is the most amazing feeling in the whole world to feed your baby yourself and then mid-feed when your baby stops for a bit to look up and gaze at you and give you a big milky smile is just heart melting. It was so hard in the early days but I am a million percent so glad I stuck with it. 0
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tinkerbell wrote: »It really is the most amazing feeling in the whole world to feed your baby yourself and then mid-feed when your baby stops for a bit to look up and gaze at you and give you a big milky smile is just heart melting. It was so hard in the early days but I am a million percent so glad I stuck with it.
Well done Tinkerbell.
I'm 11 weeks in myself and I feel the exact same way as you. I love the smiles mid feed. The other thing I love is seeing her weight go up each week. I go to a bf support group where you can get your baby weighed each week with no pressure. I am so happy knowing it's me that is causing the little pudding cheeks and thighs!!0 -
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tinkerbell wrote: »Can I just say how much I absolutely adore breastfeeding. We haven't hit the 6 month mark yet but that was my original goal and I've now revised it to get to the 12 month mark. It really is the most amazing feeling in the whole world to feed your baby yourself and then mid-feed when your baby stops for a bit to look up and gaze at you and give you a big milky smile is just heart melting. It was so hard in the early days but I am a million percent so glad I stuck with it.
Pregnant with #3 and the thing i'm looking forward to most is b'feeding again. Aside of course from the obvious meeting and getting to know babs. And it's our last so i can b'feed forever if i want 0 -
Great to hear such success stories.
I loved breastfeeding and would do it again in a flash. Just stopped there over christmas at around 13 month mark. That said I bought new bras at the weekend - proper underwired ones that I haven't worn in about 2 years and I'm sooooo happy to be out if the nursing ones. I feel like I've got a waist back now that the girls have been lifted up!! 0 -
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My son turned 1 two weeks ago and our Breastfeeding journey ended at the weekend. As much as I love feeding, the all night buffets were taking their toll especially as I'm working full time. He is already sleeping much better. I'm still having to express as my left boob is getting quite sore and I'm trying to avoid mastitis! At least it means he's still getting boob milk but just not directly from source!
Anyway I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for this thread. It was great to have somewhere to go to ask questions and just to read about other people's experiences. It really encouraged me to keep going at times. I hope all of you that are starting out have a very fulfilling and successful feeding relationship with your little one 0 -
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Well I think our breastfeeding journey is over after 14 months!! Had only been feeding bubs if and when she woke up during the night. She is on sippy cup now and has bottle of formula going to bed (introduced at 7.5 months following a health scare I had and the possibility of hospital admission leaving little bubs at home who had never taken a bottle ever!!!). She has now started sleeping through the night so no night feed now - I did consider introducing the boob in the morning but decided to leave be.
I am chuffed to have gotten this far:D At the start my goal was to reach 6 weeks!! Reading this thread from start to finish when baby was little was a life saver - thanks to all the lovely ladies here:D:D I will still poke my head in every now and again to see whats happening!!
I just wanted to ask if anyone else experienced the blues when finishing breastfeeding? Naturally, I am feeling sad that our breastfeeding journey has come to an end but I am thinking it is more than this? Maybe a drop in hormones or something? Feeling quite weepy and a little agitated? Anyone have any advise/experience of this? I'm wondering if there is a supplement I could take to help? TIA 0 -
I just wanted to ask if anyone else experienced the blues when finishing breastfeeding? Naturally, I am feeling sad that our breastfeeding journey has come to an end but I am thinking it is more than this? Maybe a drop in hormones or something? Feeling quite weepy and a little agitated? Anyone have any advise/experience of this? I'm wondering if there is a supplement I could take to help? TIA
Hiya soooky, fair play to you for lasting 14months! I exclusively feed till 6months and then started introducing a bottle of formula and gradually replaced feeds until I gave my last feed at 8 months. I got awful sadness when I was decreasing feeds.
Basically every time you breastfeed your baby your body produces oxytocin. Oxytocin is a "feel good" hormone. So when you begin to decrease or stop feeds altogether you are not producing all that oxytocin anymore which is what contributes to that low feeling.
I think studies have been done to show breastfeeding women have lower rates of depression than those who don't breastfeed due to this surge of oxytocin.
I hope you are feeling better soon. I remember sitting in bed crying and feeling absolutely useless for a day or 2. After a couple weeks you will feel a lot better 0 -
Hiya soooky, fair play to you for lasting 14months! I exclusively feed till 6months and then started introducing a bottle of formula and gradually replaced feeds until I gave my last feed at 8 months. I got awful sadness when I was decreasing feeds.
Basically every time you breastfeed your baby your body produces oxytocin. Oxytocin is a "feel good" hormone. So when you begin to decrease or stop feeds altogether you are not producing all that oxytocin anymore which is what contributes to that low feeling.
I think studies have been done to show breastfeeding women have lower rates of depression than those who don't breastfeed due to this surge of oxytocin.
I hope you are feeling better soon. I remember sitting in bed crying and feeling absolutely useless for a day or 2. After a couple weeks you will feel a lot better
Thank you for sharing your experience. Just knowing that others go through it, it is normal and that it gets better makes things so much easier.0 -
madeinamerica wrote: »Thank you for sharing your experience. Just knowing that others go through it, it is normal and that it gets better makes things so much easier.
No problem. I always found this thread so helpful and supportive when I was breastfeeding. It's nice to know others have been there. And everyone here is always so helpful. I actually remember posting myself when I was decreasing feeds to see if anyone had felt the awful lows and guilts that I was feeling. It's nice to know that you're not alone 0 -
Hiya soooky, fair play to you for lasting 14months! I exclusively feed till 6months and then started introducing a bottle of formula and gradually replaced feeds until I gave my last feed at 8 months. I got awful sadness when I was decreasing feeds.
Basically every time you breastfeed your baby your body produces oxytocin. Oxytocin is a "feel good" hormone. So when you begin to decrease or stop feeds altogether you are not producing all that oxytocin anymore which is what contributes to that low feeling.
I think studies have been done to show breastfeeding women have lower rates of depression than those who don't breastfeed due to this surge of oxytocin.
I hope you are feeling better soon. I remember sitting in bed crying and feeling absolutely useless for a day or 2. After a couple weeks you will feel a lot better
Aw thanks Sligo1 its good to know others have felt like this too! Feeling a little better today, focusing on all the good things in life! Had a good long walk with LO to blow off the cobwebs! :DSitting here now pumping a bit as starting to feel a little lumpy even though I was only feeding her once a day 0 -
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FurBabyMomma wrote: »Aww well done soooky, 14 months is amazing! So many of us start off aiming for 6 weeks so anything beyond that is a blessing and 14 months is very impressive x
Thanks FurBabyMomma - only for the advise here on this thread I'm not sure I would have lasted so long:) 0 -
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Aw thanks Sligo1 its good to know others have felt like this too! Feeling a little better today, focusing on all the good things in life! Had a good long walk with LO to blow off the cobwebs! :DSitting here now pumping a bit as starting to feel a little lumpy even though I was only feeding her once a day
Hi Sooky, Sligo1's post is spot on. I definitely got this too when i weaned my 2.
But just regards pumping if you were just feeding 1 per day i don't think you should need too. I would jump in the shower instead and under the hot water try to rub out the lumps, i used to use a wide tooth comb or else use the palm of your hand and a face cloth. Some milk might drip out that'd be normal. You can really target the lumps specifically to clear out those ducts rather than pumping the whole breast which is counter-productive at this stage.
Best of luck, hope the blues don't last too long for you, you've done such a smashing job and should be proud of yourself 0 -
My little fella had just cut his first two teeth, front on bottom, just poking through. So cute! But occasionally when starting to feed he has a little bite of my nipple! Ow I thought that teeth weren't a problem for breast feeding, are they? It's only a little nip if he's a bit excited at the start of a feed, not during a feed. What about when he's more teeth? Thanks. 0
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madeinamerica wrote: »My little fella had just cut his first two teeth, front on bottom, just poking through. So cute! But occasionally when starting to feed he has a little bite of my nipple! Ow I thought that teeth weren't a problem for breast feeding, are they? It's only a little nip if he's a bit excited at the start of a feed, not during a feed. What about when he's more teeth? Thanks.
As long as they are latched properly they shouldn't be able to bite you. Having said that, my almost 1 year old has 8 teeth and dear lord does she like to bite, mostly the evening feed if I'm not precise about the latch or if she's full and thinking about stopping, just have to keep an eye on it
Bottom teeth aren't an issue as once they are feeding the tongue covers them so he could be biting out of teething or to see what happens ;0)
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madeinamerica wrote: »My little fella had just cut his first two teeth, front on bottom, just poking through. So cute! But occasionally when starting to feed he has a little bite of my nipple! Ow I thought that teeth weren't a problem for breast feeding, are they? It's only a little nip if he's a bit excited at the start of a feed, not during a feed. What about when he's more teeth? Thanks.
My eldest cut his first tooth at 6mths. I do remember getting a few nips, but i would take him off the boob, look him in the eye and say in a firm voice "ouch that hurt mommy". I haven't a clue if he understood my words/tone or maybe it was just a coincidence but he stopped doing it and i went on to feed for another 6mths and he had a lot more teeth by the time we finished up our breast feeding journey.0 -
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madeinamerica wrote: »My little fella had just cut his first two teeth, front on bottom, just poking through. So cute! But occasionally when starting to feed he has a little bite of my nipple! Ow I thought that teeth weren't a problem for breast feeding, are they? It's only a little nip if he's a bit excited at the start of a feed, not during a feed. What about when he's more teeth? Thanks.
I got nipped twice. I yelped involuntary and gave the child a fright so he burst into tears. The second time he was messing, and watching me, then nipped deliberately, and I took him off the boob and sternly told him no biting, he cried again and he didn't do it after that.
The time to watch out for it is when they are getting full up and wanting to play a bit on the boob. If they are hungry and feeding they can't use their teeth at the same time.0
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