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  • #502
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Why did you not use the gym aboard ship instead of listening to the oul sweats bragging?
    How did the crew of Aoife manage to take part in a charity cycle from Dungarvan to Cork? How did the crew of Roisin manage to maintain their fitness enough that they could run the 10K as a block last october?

    Don't blame the Naval service for your own personal discipline failings.


  • #503
    Dr.Sanchez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Dr.Sanchez


    goldie fish wrote: »
    Why did you not use the gym aboard ship instead of listening to the oul sweats bragging?
    How did the crew of Aoife manage to take part in a charity cycle from Dungarvan to Cork? How did the crew of Roisin manage to maintain their fitness enough that they could run the 10K as a block last october?

    Don't blame the Naval service for your own personal discipline failings.

    One treadmill onboard hardly substitutes for a gym. Plus its unusable 90% of the time unless the ship is anchored.

    In fairness running 42km requires a lot more training than running 10km in a block.


  • #504
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Bullcrap. How did the NS members who ran cork city marathon manage so?


  • #505
    Dr.Sanchez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Dr.Sanchez


    goldie fish wrote: »
    Bullcrap. How did the NS members who ran cork city marathon manage so?

    Explain to me what's bullcrap about it? Plus, not everyone is posted to a ship you know?


  • #506
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    00Blaine00 wrote: »
    Explain to me what's bullcrap about it? Plus, not everyone is posted to a ship you know?

    The people I know who ran it are, and were. They took their own fitness as their own responsibility and trained whenever they had time to spare, and not when the NS told them to. They didn't spend their spare time in the mess listening to old sweats tell tall tales.
    Your personal fitness is your own failings. Blaming the NS is bullcrap. You only lasted a year, you realised after recruit training that the branch the NS decided was best suited to your abilities was not to your grand aspirations of being the next lord nelson. That or the NS decided you weren't up to the grade and showed you the gate when you couldn't achieve your A/Sea bar.


  • #507
    Poccington
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Poccington


    Why didn't you go on Selection once you realised the NS wasn't quite your cup of tea?

    Don't mean that as a confrontational type question but there's more ways to get away from the NS than just going on your ticket. I certainly can see how it would get repetitive for some people, wouldn't be my cup of tea anyway.


  • #508
    mikeym
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    00Blaine00 wrote: »

    If your happy with sitting on your ass while stuffing your face with chips and burgers drenched in Aromat, the Naval Service is for you.

    Nothing better than a burger and chips for lunch at sea :D


  • #509
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    00Blaine00 wrote: »
    Obviously you didn't read my post about not being able to use a treadmill while at sea, unless the ship is anchored. Unless your friends were/are on a peacock, which either goes along side or anchors every night. Its possible to keep some sort of fitness then.

    The NS knows it can't cater for people serious about fitness. Thats why members are graded on the next level for life tests. For example, we were graded for 27 - 35 year olds, which gives you more time to do the run and less push ups/sit ups required. Its done like that for a reason... because you can't keep fit while at sea!



    The 20 weeks of recruit training was absolutely pointless and irreverent to the job afterwords. One week at sea is not enough to decided if you could spend the next three years out there.

    Nobody from our class was put into a branch suited to their abilities, everyone was put into Seamans. We were told that would happen about a week or two before passing out as there were no other division courses running until the class behind us passed out. Bad timing or something...

    You'll only get thrown out after three years (could be five) if you don't get your AB's. Its up to the individual, all you have to do is fill in this little task book thing. Theres lads in there a long time who are still OS. Not sure why, not my business.

    Anyway, this is my last post on the matter.




    What do you mean? Like a transfer? Getting one is like winning the lotto, usually the comm ops would only have a chance in getting one.




    Not quite true, there a people who keep super fit locked up in prison cells all day, its all about motivation.

    "because you can't keep fit while at sea!"


    The Royal Marines have a fitness programme for units deployed on ships. Guys who marched across the Falklands had been on ships for 6 weeks.

    Why not bring some kettle bells along ?


  • #510
    Maybe_Memories
    Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Maybe_Memories


    Surely some navy personnel went on to join the ARW, and I'd imagine that takes a fairly high level of fitness...


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  • #511
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Maybe_Memories wrote: »
    Surely some navy personnel went on to join the ARW, and I'd imagine that takes a fairly high level of fitness...

    Many have.


  • #512
    Poccington
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Poccington


    Maybe_Memories wrote: »
    Surely some navy personnel went on to join the ARW, and I'd imagine that takes a fairly high level of fitness...

    Many have, which is why I asked the question about Selection.


  • #513
    Brian Clowen
    Registered Users Posts: 109 ✭✭Brian Clowen


    Anyone who cant find the will to keep and maintain personal discipline and fitness onboard a Naval Vessel is NEVER going to pass selection.

    You do not have to be superman fit to pass selection, you just have to want it more than anything else in your life.

    "He who has a why, can endure any how!"

    It has been a good few years since the last Naval Service Member had sucess in been tabbed a Ranger,
    on a brighter note Ordinary Rates are once again been allowed to attempted the Naval Divers Course which is incredibly hard on the body and mind, if you can train for and then pass the divers course you just might have a shot at the wing.


  • #514
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Brian Clowen wrote: »
    Anyone who cant find the will to keep and maintain personal discipline and fitness onboard a Naval Vessel is NEVER going to pass selection.

    You do not have to be superman fit to pass selection, you just have to want it more than anything else in your life.

    "He who has a why, can endure any how!"

    It has been a good few years since the last Naval Service Member had sucess in been tabbed a Ranger,
    on a brighter note Ordinary Rates are once again been allowed to attempted the Naval Divers Course which is incredibly hard on the body and mind, if you can train for and then pass ARW selection you just might have a shot at the divers course.
    Fixed :D


  • #515
    Salvation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Salvation


    Maybe_Memories wrote: »
    Surely some navy personnel went on to join the ARW, and I'd imagine that takes a fairly high level of fitness...

    The Navy actively block all applications to the ARW, as most men find it a way to get out of the sh1thole that is haulbowline.

    I spent many years down there as a seaman, could'nt get a transfer out of that sess pit, I would advise anyone considering it not to go down.

    The Navy is a undisiplined drinking session and a disgrace, I lost one friend who was murdered in the Navy in 2001 again drink.

    Stick to the army or air corp and leave that dump for the locals as it suits them


  • #516
    Maybe_Memories
    Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Maybe_Memories


    Salvation wrote: »
    The Navy actively block all applications to the ARW

    Are you serious?

    Also, while on the topic of using the wing as an escape from a previous DF role, is there a limited amount of time you in stay in the ARW?


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  • #517
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Salvation wrote: »
    The Navy actively block all applications to the ARW, as most men find it a way to get out of the sh1thole that is haulbowline.

    I spent many years down there as a seaman, could'nt get a transfer out of that sess pit, I would advise anyone considering it not to go down.

    The Navy is a undisiplined drinking session and a disgrace, I lost one friend who was murdered in the Navy in 2001 again drink.

    Stick to the army or air corp and leave that dump for the locals as it suits them

    When did you drop out? I'm guessing mid 90s? You wouldn't recognise the place now, to be fair. New management has wiped out the drinking culture. They all ran for the hills when the new flag took over.


  • #518
    Brian Clowen
    Registered Users Posts: 109 ✭✭Brian Clowen


    The Navy actively block all applications to the ARW, as most men find it a way to get out of the sh1thole that is haulbowline.

    I spent many years down there as a seaman, could'nt get a transfer out of that sess pit, I would advise anyone considering it not to go down.

    The Navy is a undisiplined drinking session and a disgrace, I lost one friend who was murdered in the Navy in 2001 again drink.

    Stick to the army or air corp and leave that dump for the locals as it suits them

    The Naval Service can no longer block anyone from going to the wing, if you pass selection your gone simply as. Keep your noise clean and pass selection on your first go and be gone before they realise that your not one of the many ill perpared who go to selection each year and are back in 24hrs.

    The young man that we lost was also a very close friend of mine so I take it we know each other and we both miss our buddy very much. the scumbag who murdered him was a nutter who attacked a guy who was unabled to defend himself. I dont want to say anything else about this so as not to cause offence to brians family.

    I will be 100% honest here the drinking culture is not what it was back in the 00's, it can flare up here and there but it is on the way out.

    The Naval Service is not a dump, if you can apply yourself you can have a good career, it is changing every day and it has come a longway and it has a good bit still to travel.

    Our biggest problem is still retention, yound guys just arent willing to do the seatime so they leave, making it harder for the guys that are left, which in turn makes them leave.

    Its a problem that can only be solved by fresh blood, 120 new body over the next 12 mths will help.


  • #519
    Salvation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Salvation


    goldie fish wrote: »
    When did you drop out? I'm guessing mid 90s? You wouldn't recognise the place now, to be fair. New management has wiped out the drinking culture. They all ran for the hills when the new flag took over.

    I finished shortly after my friend got murdered so around 2002.

    Since I could not get approved to go for selection (3 times applied) I simply left and rejoined the army.

    I have'nt been back there since and dont intend too but yes 10 years is a long time for change.

    Also the question about the wing, you can stay in the wing as long as you want as long as you can hack it with the rest, getting in is easier than staying in.


  • #520
    Emmett 2012
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Emmett 2012


    Hi guys,

    I'm new to this but i have also applied for the Irish Navy. Myself and 2 friends hope to travel down to Cork from Derry to do out PT test soon.

    I was wondering if anybody could give me any info on what the navy is like, Money, Lifestyle, Day to Day duties.

    I come from a studying sports background will this be of any use or relevance?

    Also is this Psychometric test gonna be as hard as i think?

    Thanks guys! :)


  • #521
    bandybanter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭bandybanter


    Check out these online vids for day to day life in the Naval Service. Fairly insightful
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTxKC4csylc&feature=relmfu


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  • #522
    ruserious
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭ruserious


    bandybanter wrote: »
    Check out these online vids for day to day life in the Naval Service. Fairly insightful
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTxKC4csylc&feature=relmfu


    I dunno if the set up situations depicted were ''day to day life'' :D


  • #523
    bandybanter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭bandybanter


    ruserious wrote: »
    I dunno if the set up situations depicted were ''day to day life'' :D

    Why does there always have to be a pedantic of semantics in every thread. If you watch all three online episodes you will indeed see various tasks that naval personnel carry out on a day to day basis. I posted this video for people who are applying to join the naval service not for trolls.


  • #524
    ruserious
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭ruserious


    bandybanter wrote: »
    Why does there always have to be a pedantic of semantics in every thread. If you watch all three online episodes you will indeed see various tasks that naval personnel carry out on a day to day basis. I posted this video for people who are applying to join the naval service not for trolls.
    I'm far from a troll in this regard. I know well what life at sea is like. I was saying that some of the scenes in the documentary were staged.


  • #525
    bandybanter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭bandybanter


    ruserious wrote: »
    I'm far from a troll in this regard. I know well what life at sea is like. I was saying that some of the scenes in the documentary were staged.

    Of course, it's obvious that some of the scenes were staged; however it gives a clearer idea to applicants of what's involved than just them imagining what life would be like at sea.


  • #526
    Salvation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Salvation


    Life at sea depends on your division.

    If your a Seaman your treated like sh1te and do every know crap job, toilet cleaner, scrubbing decks at 0400, painting, general crap. Believe me you get F8ck all action of any type and your a general dogs body.

    If you in Comms, a Tel you do F*ck all and is indeed a hand number.

    If your a Steward your a glorified waiter for the ponses that are the officers.

    If your a mech, again another filthy job but much more handy that being a seaman.

    The Naval Service is a crap career unless your one of the mavericks from Cobh that have nothing else.

    My advice join the army or go to the UK or US if you can get a green card and join a proper army with proper chances of advancement !

    If you go South to that kip you will regret it, it may have changed since I was there but Seamen are still treated like filth.


  • #527
    alan86
    Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭alan86


    Just wondering lads if anyone knows what the run is like in haulbowline is it all on flat ground or is it up hill and what would be a good time.


  • #528
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Salvation wrote: »
    Life at sea depends on your division.

    If your a Seaman your treated like sh1te and do every know crap job, toilet cleaner, scrubbing decks at 0400, painting, general crap. Believe me you get F8ck all action of any type and your a general dogs body.

    If you in Comms, a Tel you do F*ck all and is indeed a hand number.

    If your a Steward your a glorified waiter for the ponses that are the officers.

    If your a mech, again another filthy job but much more handy that being a seaman.

    The Naval Service is a crap career unless your one of the mavericks from Cobh that have nothing else.

    My advice join the army or go to the UK or US if you can get a green card and join a proper army with proper chances of advancement !

    If you go South to that kip you will regret it, it may have changed since I was there but Seamen are still treated like filth.

    Ignore all the above. Salvation hasn't a clue. He/she tried the NS, failed, and continues to be bitter at his/her own shortcomings, and is convinced it is someone elses fault.
    Move on kid.


  • #529
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    alan86 wrote: »
    Just wondering lads if anyone knows what the run is like in haulbowline is it all on flat ground or is it up hill and what would be a good time.

    Its over what was once the longest bridge in ireland. Out and back. There is a slight incline from the barrier to the crematorium, gentle downhill after that. This means the return journey has a gentle climb to the midpoint, and a nice downhill run to the finish.
    navla_service_home_459_03.jpg

    That bridge, there.


  • #530
    ruserious
    Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭ruserious


    Starts at the NCO's Mess, then as Goldie said and back to the mess.


  • #531
    Salvation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Salvation


    goldie fish wrote: »
    Ignore all the above. Salvation hasn't a clue. He/she tried the NS, failed, and continues to be bitter at his/her own shortcomings, and is convinced it is someone elses fault.
    Move on kid.

    Really obviously your one of the mavericks from below...

    Also from your posts your were never in, I did my time obviously your another walter that could never hack it...

    As they say in the UK jog on...again an armchair expert...


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  • #532
    Salvation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Salvation


    By the way I think it is more apt that you post here aswell :

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1008


  • #533
    alan86
    Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭alan86


    goldie fish wrote: »
    Its over what was once the longest bridge in ireland. Out and back. There is a slight incline from the barrier to the crematorium, gentle downhill after that. This means the return journey has a gentle climb to the midpoint, and a nice downhill run to the finish.
    navla_service_home_459_03.jpg

    That bridge, there.

    Lovly stuff lad thanks.


  • #534
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Salvation wrote: »
    Really obviously your one of the mavericks from below...

    Also from your posts your were never in, I did my time obviously your another walter that could never hack it...

    As they say in the UK jog on...again an armchair expert...

    By "time" I take it you mean basic training up to a week before everyone else in your class passed out.
    Not a Mav, but possibly more familiar with the naval service of the 21st century than you are.
    Delighted to see I have unsettled you that you feel the need to try to throw attempts at insults.


  • #535
    Salvation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Salvation


    goldie fish wrote: »
    By "time" I take it you mean basic training up to a week before everyone else in your class passed out.
    Not a Mav, but possibly more familiar with the naval service of the 21st century than you are.
    Delighted to see I have unsettled you that you feel the need to try to throw attempts at insults.


    Good lad as it can be clearly seen a person who couldnt get in, I wont comment any further due to the fact that you are scorned that you could'nt get past the gates, I love these arm chair warriors.

    All talk, I've seen plenty of your kind going back on the launch and then the train out of cobh.

    Getting back on subject for the people who want to go south.. Dont, simple as that, go to the army or air corp as going down to the kip that is Haulbowline is a waste of your life..

    Again leave it to the mavericks down there as they deserve it.

    ENDEX!


  • #536
    Poccington
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Poccington


    Give it over you two.

    Back on topic.


  • #537
    Brian Clowen
    Registered Users Posts: 109 ✭✭Brian Clowen


    Have been very busy so have not had the chance to post by but my god Salvation you are really bitter.

    I'm real sorry that the navy was such a drag for you, I how your happier in the army.

    But I am going to have to say that the navy is not a waste of your life, my life or anylife.

    It has changed and is changing, it is getting better and it a rewarding job, it is a different job and it can be furstrating but then cant all jobs be.

    The navy you left was going through a period of great change and resistance but the dinosaurs are alomost out of there and there is a better vibe to the place.


  • #538
    Pablo Sanchez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Pablo Sanchez


    military.ie states that the upper age limit for consideration of a cadetship is 27, is there any leeway on that?


  • #539
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    No.


  • #540
    lisao80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭lisao80


    Salvation wrote: »

    I finished shortly after my friend got murdered so around 2002.
    in.

    after spending years in the navy myself find everything your saying about the place a bit harsh. I'm not there anymore and glad I'm not but wouldn't try and turn people against it either.,,just cause your bitter you didn't get on down there etc doesn't mean other people won't enjoy a career in the Irish navy.

    Ps I think I have a fair idea who you are and think you should stop going on about Brian, alot of us lost a good friend and we all know what happened was awful but don't think it needs to be brought back up 11 years later.


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  • #541
    Eoin_Minnock
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭Eoin_Minnock


    sorry guys just a quick question on what recruit training is like?

    ill appreciate solid answers from people who have earned the beret not arm chair warriors,
    i understand it is hard but just an indication of how recruit training varies throughout the branches or is it standardised across the board?


  • #542
    amurph0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 638 ✭✭✭amurph0


    Eoin_Minnock wrote: »
    sorry guys just a quick question on what recruit training is like?

    ill appreciate solid answers from people who have earned the beret not arm chair warriors,
    i understand it is hard but just an indication of how recruit training varies throughout the branches or is it standardised across the board?

    Navy recruit training is broken up into modules, the order of how you do the modules can vary between different recruit classes.

    We did most of the modules during the second two months. During my recruit training we spent the first month learning footdrill/armsdrill and learning about the Steyr.

    During the second and third months we did DCFF (Damage Control/Fire Fighting) and Sea Survival. As well as getting introduced to the GPMG. We also had swim week where they brought us to the Curragh and thought us how to properly swim in deep water. If you don't know how to swim you'll start in the baby pool (no really, you'll start in the baby pool!). After that we had Tactics week where they took us to Kilworth and we did a small bit of Army related stuff (fieldcraft, orienteering, section tactics etc). During that week we also did our range practice on the Steyr and GPMG.

    Finally we had sea week, the class was split up and sent to different ships for a week at sea. Bring anti-seasick tablets (even if you think you won't get sea sick) or you'll destroy the place.

    The final month we got qualified on the USP and did a massive amount of footdrill to practice for our passing out parade. We also did a small two day introduction to the Searider RIBS, but the full course is done during Seamans training if you get into that branch.

    You'll be starting every morning at about 06:30 to 07:00 (usually on the square for 08:30).

    PT is done almost every day, running is usually every second day with circuits or battle PT done on the days in between. We started off doing 3 mile runs on day two, by the end of recruits 5-7miles runs were the norm.

    Sometimes did runs out to Curraghbinny woods (about 5miles from the base, just north of Crosshaven). When we got there we did circuits and ran the whole 5miles back.

    Don't expect to be going home for the weekend. You don't get much leave in recruits in order to get you used to being away from home. During my recruit training we got one weekend off in the middle and that was it. Other then that you'll only get a few hours leave to head over to Cobh to get haircuts or go to the shop, bank, etc.


  • #543
    Wookster76
    Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭Wookster76


    Yea this is pretty much how my recruit training went as well.. out of a class of 39 only 16 of us past out in the end.


  • #544
    Dr.Sanchez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Dr.Sanchez


    Yeah thats pretty much how it went. It's a piece of piss, I made it harder for myself my doing 30km runs to Crosshaven and back on the weekends we were kept in, and running a marathon a few days after we passed out.

    Was a bit unorganised for us as we were the first class trained in years.


  • #545
    Paul mac
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭Paul mac


    How much Extra pay do you get when at sea..l


  • #546
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Paul mac wrote: »
    How much Extra pay do you get when at sea..l
    €53.33 per day as an enlisted person
    €55.91 for officers.


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  • #547
    Paul mac
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭Paul mac


    goldie fish wrote: »
    €53.33 per day as an enlisted person
    €55.91 for officers.

    Thanks just passed my medical yesterday pending bloods,how often would you be goin to sea and for how long at a time ,,and are you really not aloud go home at weekends while doing your training..


  • #548
    amurph0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 638 ✭✭✭amurph0


    Paul mac wrote: »
    Thanks just passed my medical yesterday pending bloods,how often would you be goin to sea and for how long at a time ,,and are you really not aloud go home at weekends while doing your training..

    You'll be at sea for more than 200 days of the year. You do 3 or 4 week patrols with 1 week in the base between patrols. You'll be part of the ships crew for about 2-3 years before you are rotated to the base, then you'll work on the base for about 2 years before being assigned to your next ship.

    Usually you'll only get 1 or 2 weekends off during recruits to get you used to being away from home.


  • #549
    Hopefullygame
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Hopefullygame


    Hey, iv recently done my fitness and have my medical next week. My hearing fitness blood pressure bloods and urine will be all good. But I'm a bit worried about my eye sight. I wear glasses when I'm reading and writing but don't need them for anything else. I recently done an eye test and was informed I don't need my glasses for driving either. Can anyone give me an idea on how strict they are in regard to eye sight? Would appreciate a reply, cheers.


  • #550
    Nikkiwillis93
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭Nikkiwillis93


    My boyfriend is leaving in 2 weeks for basic training , how much can i expect to see him while hes away and when he gets assigned to a ship how often will i get to see/speak to him?


  • #551
    Morpheus
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Morpheus


    [MOD]Note: Trolling is not allowed and will lead to an immediate response from mods[/MOD]

    Hi NikkiWillis93 and welcome to the forum.

    Im sure some of the Navy types here will be able to answer but initially you can expect to see him not too often unless you are based close to cork? I dont believe that recruits are offered much opportunity to travel home for the duration of their initial training as its vital they learn as much as possible as quickly as possible whilst also gaining fitness and confidence with the weapons and equipment that they will be expected to use and in the job they will be expected to do. I think they get a couple of days leave throughout the period.

    Is he going to do a cadetship or is he joining as an enlisted recruit?


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