RHCP - 26th June 2012 Croke Park

jack presley · 07-07-2012 8:54am

skinny90 wrote: »

Why the Aviva....what was wrong with punchestown???regardless of the sales it would have been great

Punchestown? Possibly the worst location for a one day gig ever. Ask anyone who was at AC/DC a couple of years ago how that went

Oasis_Dublin · 07-07-2012 12:06pm

skinny90 wrote: »

Also as Iv been following them since I was 12 it was great to see them for my first time I'm 22...Croke park was horrible place for a venue and the sound was awful but you no what feck that it's not the bands fault anto will always be himself flea was unreal

Croke Park has served plenty of other artists quite well.

Furious-Red · 07-07-2012 1:46pm

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

Croke Park has served plenty of other artists quite well.

Yea ive only been to U2 and Bon Jovi there and i thought they sound was pretty good

threein99 · 07-07-2012 5:36pm

cocoshovel wrote: »

You know what annoys me? The fact that NOBODY ever claps along to the part in Look Around. :mad:

I clapped :cool:

LandonRicketts · 07-07-2012 11:04pm

if anyone is interested youtube are streaming their set from rock in rio madrid tonight. should be starting around.......now

http://www.youtube.com/rockinrio?feature=inp-lt-rmu

flyswatter · 07-07-2012 11:18pm

LandonRicketts wrote: »

if anyone is interested youtube are streaming their set from rock in rio madrid tonight. should be starting around.......now

http://www.youtube.com/rockinrio?feature=inp-lt-rmu

They're playing Monarchy of Roses now, one of the worst Red Hot Chili Peppers songs I've heard.

Mushy · 07-07-2012 11:39pm

Hate to be a killjoy, but they are fooking dreadful tonight. Anthony doesnt give a damn, they are dreadful. Flea is some an giving it socks, deserves better.

jack presley · 07-07-2012 11:59pm

Mushy wrote: »

Hate to be a killjoy, but they are fooking dreadful tonight. Anthony doesnt give a damn, they are dreadful. Flea is some an giving it socks, deserves better.

I think you can replace the word 'tonight' in your post with 'any night over the past 5years'. Your post just about sums them up in recent years

Mushy · 08-07-2012 12:04am

jack presley wrote: »

I think you can replace the word 'tonight' in your post with 'any night over the past 5years'. Your post just about sums them up in recent years

I didn't want to come across too harsh. Saw them at Oxegen, was dreadful, tonight was worse.

theparish · 08-07-2012 12:05am

The new guitarist is terrible:eek:

overshoot · 08-07-2012 12:29am

theparish wrote: »

The new guitarist is terrible:eek:

stop letting him sing, he sounds like something you would get in a secondary school band!

UserName 217 · 08-07-2012 1:31pm

overshoot wrote: »

stop letting him sing, he sounds like something you would get in a secondary school band!

Don't agree IMO.

tee_91 · 10-07-2012 6:27pm

wish i could comment on the concert but had a dreadful time and got pulled out of the crowd by a bouncer. all because some physco standing behind me and my boyfriend starting having a hissy fit and accused us of pushing through. bouncer was an absolute jerk and kicked us out of the concert. we told him we were standing there an hour but he wouldnt listen. she prob realised the rhcp's were about to come on stage and her view was crap cause my boyfriend was standing in front of her and he is 6ft,6.

anyone else have any problems with security????

it was the man with the big headphones on, in his 40's and bald. in between the barriers on pitch?

fifth · 10-07-2012 6:38pm

cocoshovel wrote: »

You know what annoys me? The fact that NOBODY ever claps along to the part in Look Around. :mad:

Joking, right?

I saw feck all people singing along to stuff other than By the Way and the big ones.

Delighted to hear a couple of random tracks off of SA. One chap in front of me kept showing off mouthing the words to the more (well I don't like this choice of words but,) 'obscure' songs from their catalogue, looking around to see if anyone noticed.

I did, buddy. Rock on!

Sound quality poor, gig felt like it was over a little too quickly, thought the performance was decent, though. The 'quality' of the crowd wasn't too bad, although it's been diluted somewhat since By the Way was released.

Anyway, always enjoy them.

pistonsvox · 10-07-2012 8:31pm

FatRat wrote: »

Very true. That's why I question the fact that they used the same speakers as Westlife, they hardly have the exact same needs in terms of speakers???? They had their own amps and on-stage equipment alright, of course, just like every other band would. But that comes to nothing if the speakers aren't up to spec. I was actually reading on a chili's forum about the gig and one poster pointed out the speakers at the venue and that they were nowhere near up to standard for a venue the size of croke park. He wasn't at the gig, he just noticed from a picture posted of croke park BEFORE the gig. I too noticed it. They had 16 speakers either side of the stage with another 16 odd stack of speakers in the middle of the pitch.

Anyway, it's all speculation from my point of view. Like you said, all bands require their own equipment to be perfectly set-up the way they like it. Unless Westlife and the Chili's have the exact same speaker set-up, there's no way of explaining why they used the same speaker set-up. Unless Croke Park wouldn't allow the speaker system to be modified. There could be a noise limit? ..... Nah, I'm probably going too far. I'll stop here.

If the area around croke park weren't such moaners about noise level the engineers wouldn't have been limited to 75dbA SPL... which is an absolute stupid limit to put on a gig at this size. Low level mix+wind, audience aren't gonna be happy soundwise. :rolleyes:

That speaker rig is one of the best in the world actually ha. Was away so wasn't workin this gig but as far as I know it was the same rig as westlife but the sub setup was changed, in fact better. It doesn't matter what kind of act is performing, its all about getting even coverage in the listener area.
They used the same PA for the phoenix park gigs last week so even the main hangs would have almost been ok for croker, but you have to take wind and atmospheric conditions into account, so the delay towers(speakers in middle of pitch) would compensate for the loss of volume, clarity etc.

It was mainly to the fact that there was a sound limit really, i've been faced with it myself many times and its an absolute bollcks when they enforce it. It's either get fined or not be happy with your sound coverage. Bruce Springsteen on the other hand deceided to keep going and go over the limit and pay the fine apparently at one of his Dublin shows. If only chilli's had the cash :pac:
Oh and another thing thats crap, the noise of the audience's cheers are loud enough to send the meter over 75dBA. Councils that employ these noise police just haven't a clue

youcantstopme · 11-07-2012 9:05pm

funkyflea wrote: »

Joking, right?

I saw feck all people singing along to stuff other than By the Way and the big ones.

Delighted to hear a couple of random tracks off of SA. One chap in front of me kept showing off mouthing the words to the more (well I don't like this choice of words but,) 'obscure' songs from their catalogue, looking around to see if anyone noticed.

I did, buddy. Rock on!

Sound quality poor, gig felt like it was over a little too quickly, thought the performance was decent, though. The 'quality' of the crowd wasn't too bad, although it's been diluted somewhat since By the Way was released.

Anyway, always enjoy them.

maybe because their new stuff is ****?

fifth · 12-07-2012 3:33pm

youcantstopme wrote: »

maybe because their new stuff is ****?

Yeah!.. except it's not.

The stuff they've done in the last few albums is quality. I don't give much time to anything before Mother's Milk and only even listen to that on rare occasions these days. RHCP are a band that consistently come up with good stuff and will continue to!

Jimmy Iovine · 12-07-2012 3:53pm

funkyflea wrote: »

Yeah!.. except it's not.

The stuff they've done in the last few albums is quality. I don't give much time to anything before Mother's Milk and only even listen to that on rare occasions these days. RHCP are a band that consistently come up with good stuff and will continue to!

You should. The Uplift Mofo and Freaky Styley are great albums.

roryj123 · 10-10-2012 10:23pm

Anyone know why the didn't change venues? Someone said it was a FIFTH full saw a pic of the entire back of the stadium being blocked off :O

Oasis_Dublin · 11-10-2012 2:07pm

Yeah, it was certainly in the region of about 40-50% empty anyway. I really don't understand why the didn't change venues. In saying that, charming stories about Noel Gallagher scoring in Croke Park might not have emerged had it not been for the use of the stadium, so it was worth it.

roryj123 · 11-10-2012 5:32pm

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

Yeah, it was certainly in the region of about 40-50% empty anyway. I really don't understand why the didn't change venues. In saying that, charming stories about Noel Gallagher scoring in Croke Park might not have emerged had it not been for the use of the stadium, so it was worth it.

Concerts,Stadiums anyway in Ireland don't seem to be max full any more with the economy.

Furious-Red · 11-10-2012 7:15pm

roryj123 wrote: »

Concerts,Stadiums anyway in Ireland don't seem to be max full any more with the economy.

Agreed and i think one of the main reasons is the price

roryj123 · 11-10-2012 11:11pm

Furious-Red wrote: »

Agreed and i think one of the main reasons is the price

True I heard that from a lot of people.

superblu · 12-10-2012 12:19am

Red Hot Chili Peppers have played a lot in Ireland over the last 10 years and I think people have just had enough of them at this stage. The couple of times I saw them I felt they were just going though the motions. I think the poor turnout in croker was indicative of this.

karaokeman · 12-10-2012 11:10am

Be interesting to see the future of RHCP gigs in Ireland at this point. Hard to see them playing any more stadium gigs here with how poorly this show sold.

I didn't think this gig was terrible, it was alright not as good as the O2 gig (which was awesome), I think the worst part was when Anthony walked off stage without telling the crowd. Think it would've been better if he said he needed to catch his breath or something to that extent, agreed Flea deserves much more credit and you would swear he's the frontman.

I don't think I'll be pushed to see them again unless the next album will be something closer to what they were doing for the first few records, and maybe in the unlikely chance we'll get a 25th anniversary tour in 2016 for BSSM with Frusciante on board;).

Ash.J.Williams · 12-10-2012 11:13am

there was a few moments where your ears auto focus on the guitar and it wasn't there!!

Furious-Red · 12-10-2012 11:21am

karaokeman wrote: »

Be interesting to see the future of RHCP gigs in Ireland at this point. Hard to see them playing any more stadium gigs here with how poorly this show sold.

I didn't think this gig was terrible, it was alright not as good as the O2 gig (which was awesome), I think the worst part was when Anthony walked off stage without telling the crowd. Think it would've been better if he said he needed to catch his breath or something to that extent, agreed Flea deserves much more credit and you would swear he's the frontman.

I don't think I'll be pushed to see them again unless the next album will be something closer to what they were doing for the first few records, and maybe in the unlikely chance we'll get a 25th anniversary tour in 2016 for BSSM with Frusciante on board;).

I can still see them doing outdoor shows but maybe on a smaller scale eg Aviva Stadium

karaokeman · 12-10-2012 2:19pm

Furious-Red wrote: »

I can still see them doing outdoor shows but maybe on a smaller scale eg Aviva Stadium

The Aviva would be a possibility if they could get a big support bill again, 40,000 out of 50,000 wouldn't be too bad.

Either that or something like Marlay Park.

roryj123 · 12-10-2012 2:24pm

karaokeman wrote: »

The Aviva would be a possibility if they could get a big support bill again, 40,000 out of 50,000 wouldn't be too bad.

Either that or something like Marlay Park.

Even the RDS what where their touring company thinking? Just move venues!

Furious-Red · 12-10-2012 3:32pm

roryj123 wrote: »

Even the RDS what where their touring company thinking? Just move venues!

If they go for the RDS then they would have to switch promoter to Aiken instead of MCD

Ash.J.Williams · 12-10-2012 3:35pm

Let's not forget that there are crowd restrictions on the pitch in Croker and that pitch is F**ckin huuuge! Looked empty but was probably close to capacity.

roryj123 · 15-10-2012 1:45am

aka accounts 2010 wrote: »

I think there are numerous reasons why this is a slow selling gig:

1. RHCP played the O2 on 04/11/2011, the same day as the Croke Park gig going on sale. Many of the 14,000 that attended the O2, of which I was one, could not afford to buy another ticket that day/week or month even. I had payed nearly €70 for my ticket plus hotel, diesel, drink, food etc.

2. People are waiting on a Slane 2012 announcment, persuming it will go ahead. Possible headliners include Stone Roses, Foo Fighters, Killers, Snow Patrol etc etc etc.

3. People are waiting on an Oxegen 2012 announcement, persuming it will go ahead. It was confirmed on 13th December last year so possible that news may come fairly soon. Oxegen may also be replaced by another festival but something will take place in July and people are waiting to see what comes out.

4. Coldplay are strongly rumoured to be playing the Aviva on 16th June 2012. A few Dublin hotels are already advertising Coldplay Concert packages. MCD are yet to confirm any details. Coldplay are scheduled for a stadium tour next Summer and there website states that Irish and European dates will be added shortly.

5. Bruce Springsteen plays the RDS in July with tickets priced at a cool €86-€96.

6. Electric Picnic early bird tickets went on sale last week which will draw its usual following plus a possible increase in demand if Oxegen changes its format away from a camping festival.

7. Marley Park series of gigs for next August have yet to be anounced but you would expect a series to take place given the relative success of this years gigs.

8. A selection of quality European festivals have been confirmed with tickets already on sale. There is always a strong following from Ireland at these festivals.

9. Sound can be poor a Croke Park unless you have pitch standing tickets or low level seating. It is a very big venue. Sound and views are always an issue for some.

10. People simply can't afford it when tickets, travel, hotels, food, drink etc etc are taken into account.

There is alot of CONFIRMATION needed with regards major events next Summer and until these have been confirmed one way or another, people will hold off and weigh up the options. Ticket sales could easily improve if some of the above DO NOT take place, however, sales might not improve if the likes of Slane, Oxegen, Coldplay etc etc all take place in June/July as expected!!!

Just a case of wait and see I'm afraid!!!

I don't think much of it comes into play besides the first and last,There is always something else on,Hurling matches on at the same time etc! most likely just to do with the recession!

karaokeman · 15-10-2012 10:25am

roryj123 wrote: »

Even the RDS what where their touring company thinking? Just move venues!

The O2 date sold out in seconds, I reckon promoters were basing theit hypothesis of sales for Croke Park on how well the previous date sold.

Its probably the diehards who went to the O2 date and then most of them didn't have the money to see them again.

Oasis_Dublin · 15-10-2012 10:45am

roryj123 wrote: »

Concerts,Stadiums anyway in Ireland don't seem to be max full any more with the economy.

The right acts can sell out Croke Park... or certainly make it more full than 60%. I wonder did MCD make money after they paid their fee to the band?

aka accounts 2010 · 15-10-2012 12:34pm

roryj123 wrote: »

I don't think much of it comes into play besides the first and last,There is always something else on,Hurling matches on at the same time etc! most likely just to do with the recession!

I think the majority of points in the post are relevant actually. I didn't bring in factors from outside the music sence really (with the execption of mentioning the economy in my final point).

Many people who attend these big outdoor gigs attend plenty other big music events in Ireland and Europe every year and have to carefully decide what to attend and what to skip. The possibility of an Oxegen and Slane announcement when the Croke Park gig went on sale would not have helped sales.

Then take into consideration that 135,000 people attended Phoenix Park over 3 days just a week after the Croke Park gig.

I was at RHCP O2 gig and went to all Phoenix Park gigs.

When the Croke Park gig was announced I decided to wait and see what other big summer gigs would appear.

roryj123 · 15-10-2012 8:09pm

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

The right acts can sell out Croke Park... or certainly make it more full than 60%. I wonder did MCD make money after they paid their fee to the band?

not a chance somewhere said the break even point for many gigs is 70-80%

roryj123 · 15-10-2012 8:11pm

aka accounts 2010 wrote: »

I think the majority of points in the post are relevant actually. I didn't bring in factors from outside the music sence really (with the execption of mentioning the economy in my final point).

Many people who attend these big outdoor gigs attend plenty other big music events in Ireland and Europe every year and have to carefully decide what to attend and what to skip. The possibility of an Oxegen and Slane announcement when the Croke Park gig went on sale would not have helped sales.

Then take into consideration that 135,000 people attended Phoenix Park over 3 days just a week after the Croke Park gig.

I was at RHCP O2 gig and went to all Phoenix Park gigs.

When the Croke Park gig was announced I decided to wait and see what other big summer gigs would appear.

Well I think anyway,There will always be something else on or other options even Madonna couldn't sell out the Aviva and she sold something like 60,000 at Slane Castle a few years ago,Concerts are one of the first things to go down in a recession.

Ash.J.Williams · 15-10-2012 8:36pm

what was the sound like from the pitch and the canal end? The stands are brutal. Plus Croke park is F***ing huge, never noticed it at games so much. Probably not the epic gig venue that was expected. There is also a "croke park residents "group who deal with the gaa regarding issues relating the impact of croke park on their lives, and i would imagine they control the curfew and volume of gigs.

RHCP - 26th June 2012 Croke Park

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