Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

beggars_bush · 23-04-2014 2:54pm

That's what happens with a small playing pool. Injuries to key players.
Poor mobility and conditioning work are also issues.

Most injuries are soft tissue issues that can be avoided.

Gunneros · 23-04-2014 8:13pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

I honestly can't believe how difficult it seems to be for Roscommon to get their best 15 on the field fully fit.

This happens at all levels from minor up.

Is it training methods?

Super competitive club scene?

Every time there is a big match on the horizon there seems to be niggles and worse all over the field....

Serious handicap for a county with a small enough population.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions about poor conditioning, mobility etc. Arsenal are supposed to have the very best and cutting edge medical facilities available to them but are now carrying out an internal investigation into the injury crisis that derailed them recently. I think it is more to do with a lack of depth and therefore no long term thinking. I believe Ultan Harney is only getting by on injections on a game to game basis for the u-21s. When that finishes I'm sure clann would like him available for the summer. Big decisions for a young fella.

Syferus · 23-04-2014 8:37pm

Ultan's awaiting surgery. It's almost 100% that he's getting treated as fast as humanly possible after May 3rd.

I think Harney is still in charge of Clann so he's not going to flog his own family.

megadodge · 23-04-2014 8:41pm

Was talking to Donal Ward in Portlaoise and he's having an operation on the pubic/hip area sometime in the next two weeks. He said it's this that has been at the base of all his injuries in the last year or two. He's expecting to be out for 3 months.

I hope this sorts out the injuries, because IMO he's our best half-back. He can defend and attack equally well and is as cool as they come.

Lemlin · 24-04-2014 7:45pm

Cavan team named:

CAVAN: Conor Gilsenan (Bailieborough); Joshua Hayes (Cootehill), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Feargal Flanagan (Butlersbridge); James McEnroe (Ramor United), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Damien O’Reilly (Belturbet); Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), Killian Brady (Mullahoran); Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Niall McDermott (Ballinagh), Martin Reilly (Killygarry); Jack Brady (Ramor United), Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels), Eugene Keating (St Sylvester’s).

3 changes from the team that played ye in the League. McEnroe, Mackey and Jack Brady all start.

None of our U21s are in the starting 15. I don't know if they'll be involved.

Strongbow10 · 24-04-2014 10:11pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Cavan team named:

CAVAN: Conor Gilsenan (Bailieborough); Joshua Hayes (Cootehill), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Feargal Flanagan (Butlersbridge); James McEnroe (Ramor United), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Damien O’Reilly (Belturbet); Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), Killian Brady (Mullahoran); Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Niall McDermott (Ballinagh), Martin Reilly (Killygarry); Jack Brady (Ramor United), Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels), Eugene Keating (St Sylvester’s).

3 changes from the team that played ye in the League. McEnroe, Mackey and Jack Brady all start.

None of our U21s are in the starting 15. I don't know if they'll be involved.

14 different clubs represented

Lemlin · 24-04-2014 10:57pm

Strongbow10 wrote: »

14 different clubs represented

It's great to see. Not so long ago 8 or so of the starting 15 would be from the Gaels!

rossie1977 · 25-04-2014 7:31pm

1. Darren O'Malley; 2. Sean McDermott,3. Niall Carty, 4. Neil Collins; 5. David Keenan, 6. Niall Daly, 7. Ciaran Cafferkey; 8. Cathal Shine, 9. Kevin Higgins; 10. David O'Gara, 11. Donie Shine, 12. Dara Donnelly; 13. Senan Kilbride, 14. Cathal Cregg, 15. Ciaran Murtagh

8 changes from the team that started the league game in cavan

roscommon have 7 of the team that played in the 2010 hastings cup final against cavan starting this sunday, cavan have 4

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 25-04-2014 10:49pm

Fairly strong looking team out, considering we're shorn of our U21 contingent. Would be nice to get our first win in Croker since 2008 (or was it'07??)

RoscommonTom · 26-04-2014 7:54am

Safe travels to everyone going to crocker, should be a mighty day, quinns pub near the stadium is a good spot for before the match if any fellas are looking for a few pints to settle the nerves, up the rosies

Lemlin · 26-04-2014 8:08am

RoscommonTom wrote: »

Safe travels to everyone going to crocker, should be a mighty day, quinns pub near the stadium is a good spot for before the match if any fellas are looking for a few pints to settle the nerves, up the rosies

I thought us Cavan lads hadn't many visits to Croker but I didn't think there was a person alive on the island over 16 who supports GAA and hasn't heard of Quinns!

Just be prepared for your runners to stick to the floor!

nice_guy80 · 26-04-2014 10:25am

I'm still mulling over whether to head up or not.
Best of luck to the lads.

yabadabado · 26-04-2014 10:33am

Tom Mayes the place to be for any Rossie heading to Croker.

Lemlin · 26-04-2014 10:33am

nice_guy80 wrote: »

I'm still mulling over whether to head up or not.
Best of luck to the lads.

Great weather. Two matches. Tickets a decent price. Nice chance to enjoy Croker because it won't be jammed. Should be a good atmosphere because its four counties whose football teams don't play there alot.

What's stopping ya!?

Syferus · 26-04-2014 11:32am

Lemlin wrote: »

Great weather. Two matches. Tickets a decent price. Nice chance to enjoy Croker because it won't be jammed. Should be a good atmosphere because its four counties whose football teams don't play there alot.

What's stopping ya!?

And two counties who barely know they have football teams.

Lemlin · 26-04-2014 11:49am

Syferus wrote: »

And two counties who barely know they have football teams.

I'd be hoping that Tipp bring a few given their recent underage success.

yabadabado · 26-04-2014 12:35pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Great weather. Two matches. Tickets a decent price. Nice chance to enjoy Croker because it won't be jammed. Should be a good atmosphere because its four counties whose football teams don't play there alot.

What's stopping ya!?

I'm heading to it but I doubt there will be much of a crowd or an atmosphere.Will be lucky to get 14,000 imo.

grattanspuds · 26-04-2014 1:24pm

Syferus wrote: »

And two counties who barely know they have football teams.

And having to endure watching Cavan's sleeping-tablet football

Syferus · 26-04-2014 3:05pm

yabadabado wrote: »

I'm heading to it but I doubt there will be much of a crowd or an atmosphere.Will be lucky to get 14,000 imo.

Will be lucky to get 8-10k, to be honest.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 26-04-2014 5:19pm

Looking at the Tipp v Clare game, the crowd will be largely dependant on Ros and Cavan supporters making the journey, I'd be surprised if there's 1,000 there at the moment.

SureYWouldntYa · 26-04-2014 8:33pm

Powerful stuff by the lads there.

Had to laugh at Seanie McDermott in the last minute, some bitta fouling there

Syferus · 26-04-2014 9:10pm

Mighty stuff.

Next weekend can cap an incredible start of the year for us.

Lemlin · 26-04-2014 9:58pm

Congrats on the win lads. The game was in the melting pot and ye took your chances. We didn't.

Definitely a lot for our lads to learn from that game and hopefully it's the kick up the arse they need.

Best of luck next week.

Ps. I have said I rated ye above us all season!

muincav · 26-04-2014 10:13pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Congrats on the win lads. The game was in the melting pot and ye took your chances. We didn't.

Definitely a lot for our lads to learn from that game and hopefully it's the kick up the arse they need.

Best of luck next week.

Ps. I have said I rated ye above us all season!

Agreee with Lemlin. firstly well done to Roscommon you deserved it on the day. You were the hungrier team. Cavan didnt take their scores and some of the team selection has to be questioned.Must say it was a very sporting game...well done again and enjoy the celebrations tonight.

Tom Joad · 26-04-2014 10:21pm

Well done to Roscommon from me too. Better team on the night and good value for the win. Better finishing won it for ye. Was a very enjoyable game played in the right spirit. Nice to see both counties heading in the right direction.

Consey · 26-04-2014 10:25pm

Well done Roscommon. Played some good direct football there tonight.

rossie1977 · 26-04-2014 10:30pm

Kilbride and donie shine were both outstanding in the second half. They are two of the most gifted players in the country who frustrate as much as they entertain but today both were on their game and won the match for us.

Its obvious both teams have work to do next yr at the higher level but it would be great if both of us could get to division 1 as well as provincial success because we are both mad football counties. after being on the hill in 97 for the cavan kerry game i think cavan fans might be crazier than us

Syferus · 26-04-2014 10:32pm

They don't have anyone that could mark Paddy Joe, though.

padd b1975 · 26-04-2014 11:34pm

Congrats to Roscommon.

National senior titles are hard to come by whatever the level.

Fair play.:cool:

RoscommonTom · 27-04-2014 8:24am

Pure mighty, coming back after the bad start is a good sign, I thought wed be beat with about fifteen minutes to go, cavan had a lot of chances but there forwards wasted them, if we can beat the dirty jacks next itll be some few weeks

nice_guy80 · 27-04-2014 11:00am

Not quite sure how Shine got MOM, thought Keenan was very good. He gets into good forward positions, got luck with the goal, but if he could improve his shooting he could score 2/3 points a game from wing back.
Any top team from the past 10 years has had half backs who can kick a score.

Syferus · 27-04-2014 12:44pm

Both Dalys can kick scores, particularly Conor. Points have never been David's strong suit, even when he was playing wing forward.

SeanJ09 · 27-04-2014 3:41pm

Congrats to the Rossies, the Connaught Championship needs a strong Roscommon.

Santa Cruz · 27-04-2014 6:38pm

Well done Ross. Kick on now in the U21 and get back to Croke Park for August one way or the other but ideally the direct route

sting60 · 02-05-2014 3:53pm

Im hoping the whole of my county are in Tullamore tomorrow not like the feeble support in Croke Park for the seniors.Best supports in Ireland my arse.

SureYWouldntYa · 02-05-2014 4:50pm

sting60 wrote: »

Im hoping the whole of my county are in Tullamore tomorrow not like the feeble support in Croke Park for the seniors.Best supports in Ireland my arse.

The "feeble" support for the seniors was because of the game tomorrow. Not everyone can afford to go to every game.

Do you not remember Ennis 2006 when the county of Clare was flooded with Rossies ?

nice_guy80 · 02-05-2014 5:01pm

Three big games, three weekends in a row, is difficult for people to keep dipping into their pockets.

Best of luck to the lads tomorrow.

sting60 · 02-05-2014 5:01pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

The "feeble" support for the seniors was because of the game tomorrow. Not everyone can afford to go to every game.

Do you not remember Ennis 2006 when the county of Clare was flooded with Rossies ?

8 yrs ago, my god.We have to bring man woman and child tomorrow because Dublin think this is a stroll against our terrible manager/defence.

Syferus · 02-05-2014 5:15pm

sting60 wrote: »

8 yrs ago, my god.We have to bring man woman and child tomorrow because Dublin think this is a stroll against our terrible manager/defence.

What? Nigel has done a great job these past three years and our defence is far better than some would have you believe.

The attendance at Croker was fine for what it was, a match in Dublin at 7pm on a Saturday. I got back home at 12:30am after coming straight back. Calm the rhetoric.

sting60 · 02-05-2014 5:32pm

Syferus wrote: »

What? Nigel has done a great job these past three years and our defence is far better than some would have you believe.

The attendance at Croker was fine for what it was, a match in Dublin at 7pm on a Saturday. I got back home at 12:30am after coming straight back. Calm the rhetoric.

His movement of the bench is poor and All counties were happy when asked about the fixture.Clare people outnumbered Roscommon in every pup from what im told and the figures from Croke Park Hotel back that up as more drink was sold for first game than second.Dublin will play four half forwards that is for sure how will he cope.

Lemlin · 02-05-2014 5:43pm

sting60 wrote: »

His movement of the bench is poor and All counties were happy when asked about the fixture.Clare people outnumbered Roscommon in every pup from what im told and the figures from Croke Park Hotel back that up as more drink was sold for first game than second.Dublin will play four half forwards that is for sure how will he cope.

I'd imagine more drink was sold for the first game because Cavan/Roscommon people were having their fill before watching their counties.

The support from Tipperary/Clare was very poor. The stand only 'filled' for the second match.

That said, I thought Cavan people far outnumbered the Rossies but we haven't as far to travel and no U21 final this week.

blowitupref · 02-05-2014 5:49pm

@sting60 if Roscommon U-21s had a terrible manager they wouldn't have reached two All Ireland finals in three years. You are the same poster that was absurdly critical of Fergal O'Donnell last summer with the Roscommon minors. I suppose its the way you roll.

Syferus · 02-05-2014 6:10pm

sting60 wrote: »

His movement of the bench is poor and All counties were happy when asked about the fixture.Clare people outnumbered Roscommon in every pup from what im told and the figures from Croke Park Hotel back that up as more drink was sold for first game than second.Dublin will play four half forwards that is for sure how will he cope.

Eh? We're happy to play at Croke Park but 7pm on a Saturday evening is never going to be a big draw for a county in Connacht and one in Ulster, great supporters or shíte supporters.

Clare people did not out-number Roscommon supporters. There was barely a thousand supporters shared between Tipp and Clare. I really should have took pictures of the premium bar for you before each two games because what you just said was so absolutely ridiculous I can't even believe you trotted it out. there were no lines before the Clare-Tipp game but the line was out to the stand door before the second game. If we're basing this on the empirical measurement that is drink sold I think what happens inside the effing stadium is more indicative than a bar across the road from the match. We hardly did much worse than Cavan and they had no 'excuse' about minding the petrol for tomorrow.

Nigel should have cleared the bench earlier but most of his impact players on the bench were either injured or starting - Fintan Sweeney, Kevin Finn, Cathal Compton, Ronan Daly and Niall McInerney started. All five have (or in Comp's case, would have) started championship games this year and none were on the bench against Cork.

Nigel knows better than you or I ever will that we need the bench to beat Dublin.

sting60 · 02-05-2014 7:15pm

blowitupref wrote: »

@sting60 if Roscommon U-21s had a terrible manager they wouldn't have reached two All Ireland finals in three years. You are the same poster that was absurdly critical of Fergal O'Donnell last summer with the Roscommon minors. I suppose its the way you roll.

Please explane you comments re finals,im totally lost.

blowitupref · 02-05-2014 7:32pm

sting60 wrote: »

Please explane you comments re finals,im totally lost.

Explain?

You will be lost forever if you can't see the achievement of this Roscommon manager guiding his county to their second U-21 All Ireland final in three years. Something (open to correction) that no Roscommon underage manager has done before.

sting60 · 02-05-2014 7:42pm

blowitupref wrote: »

Explain?

You will be lost forever if you can't see the achievement of this Roscommon manager guiding his county to their second U-21 All Ireland final in three years. Something (open to correction) that no Roscommon underage manager has done before.

Explain, your previous comment I will be there shouting my county on but im not sure of the value of the nuance of the our manager,hope im wrong big time.

Syferus · 02-05-2014 8:20pm

blowitupref wrote: »

Explain?

You will be lost forever if you can't see the achievement of this Roscommon manager guiding his county to their second U-21 All Ireland final in three years. Something (open to correction) that no Roscommon underage manager has done before.

We made finals in 66 and 69 and 78 and 82. Can't recall if the manager was the same in either case.

Have no doubt, Nigel has had as good a bunch of players we've ever produced to work with but his success has been in training them to a level of fluidity I've rarely seen. Hopefully it continues for another game.

Lemlin · 03-05-2014 11:53am

Best of luck today. After watching both teams, ye are the better side so hope ye push on and win it.

sting60 · 03-05-2014 3:22pm

Half backs murdered Dublin playing a sweeper Dineen scratching his head,wow o wow dessie Farrell in a different planet to our sideline.Takes off a corner back when 12/1 down when the problem is out the field,my god what a manager.

Dublin Red Devil · 03-05-2014 3:26pm

Yer not able for the Dubs here

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