First grey hair and lack of motivation.

Nules10 · 24-04-2012 8:59pm

Family news, great stuff

I hear ya with the finances, i have had to cut back on the massages and called in a favour from a physio friend to look at the MRI when i get it. Check out some stretches on the net for the back and maybe some strength ones too or invest in a pilates DVD.Foam roll the back?? can it be done. Oh why oh why did we get hooked on this running malarky :rolleyes:

red face dave · 24-04-2012 9:04pm

Thanks. Foam roller I see loads of people of here about those things. I was actually just doing some stretches and it seems to be a bit better. The wife has one of those pilates DVD might give it a go.

Bloody running, just did up my training schedule for the marathon today.

Nules10 · 24-04-2012 9:11pm

Give the DVD a go. I know going to a class is probably not an option so the DVD is the next best thing. You tube has some good stretches and some strength exercises. Ohh its that time of the year... getting the marathon plans done... i am a little jealous to be honest

red face dave · 24-04-2012 9:18pm

Great to see you back running. 5 mile race on the 30th June is looking good for ya.

Nules10 · 24-04-2012 9:23pm

Yep and i think i will make it my come back race too

Need to get a few speed sessions in in a few weeks. I miss that torture

Younganne · 25-04-2012 4:46pm

Hows the back Dave, any improvements?

red face dave · 25-04-2012 6:25pm

Sort off Anne. Don't know if I am just willing for it to get better. Did a small jog today and it seemed to be grand. Either way its a great excuse to get a massage of the wife:D:D:D:D

Club training tomorrow night and If not good after that I will get a massage on Saturday and I have the race then Sunday.

red face dave · 26-04-2012 8:10pm

Did a very easy 2.5 miles this evening. Felt okay after but the back was a bit on the stiff side and a tiny bit sore. But overall okay. Looking forward to Sunday now.

Two quick questions:

(1) Should I push for a sub 50 on Sunday or should I just use it as a training run bearing in mind the half marathon is in 2 weeks time

(2) Would I be okay to go for a run tomorrow/Saturday or should I just leave it now and rest up

Just wondering is there any EXPERTS out there

:):):):)

Younganne · 26-04-2012 8:52pm

None of the Experts seem to be around;) so heres my tupence worth:D

go with how you feel on sunday and pay no attention to pace, just run by feel. IF the back is at you ease off, if not just go for it...i reckon theres enough time for a recovery before the half...on the other hand if you want the half to be your "target " race and don't want to risk not being on top form for the half then don't go so hard...... but at the end of the day its a race, so will you be able to hang back!!!

as for a run before sunday, probably no harm to do a very easy 3m to stretch out the legs and do plent of stretches on the back!!

red face dave · 26-04-2012 8:58pm

Thanks Anne I knew I could count on you.

I would love to do a 48 will wait until the day to decide. Might just head for a run on Saturday morning slow and steady 3 miles. Going on to youtube now to look up some stretches.

menoscemo · 26-04-2012 9:02pm

red face dave wrote: »

Did a very easy 2.5 miles this evening. Felt okay after but the back was a bit on the stiff side and a tiny bit sore. But overall okay. Looking forward to Sunday now.

Two quick questions:

(1) Should I push for a sub 50 on Sunday or should I just use it as a training run bearing in mind the half marathon is in 2 weeks time

(2) Would I be okay to go for a run tomorrow/Saturday or should I just leave it now and rest up

Just wondering is there any EXPERTS out there :):):):)

Dave, your half is 2 weeks away which gives you plenty of time to recover from a 10k.

You paid to enter a race so you best race it. Go as hard as you can and check your time when the race is done :pac: Don't let the garmin slow you down.

red face dave · 26-04-2012 9:05pm

Oh I like it Menoscemo. Just give it a lash and see what happens.

menoscemo · 26-04-2012 9:12pm

red face dave wrote: »

Oh I like it Menoscemo. Just give it a lash and see what happens.

Yeah if you blow up, put it down to experience. I have run loads of races by the garmin before. Sometimes I have held myself back so as to not go faster than target and left myself feeling I could have gone faster. Sometimes I have went too fast when trying to hold a target and then threw the toys out of the pram when I started to slow. On most occasions I have felt I probably would have got a better result if I had just raced to what felt right.

I generally nowadays have just a sneaky look at the garmin after half a mile to see I am not going way too fast and then another senaky look with a mile or so to go. It takes a lot of discipline not to race by the watch but I think the results are better.

red face dave · 26-04-2012 9:23pm

I have been trying to stop looking at my watch. I have even started to turn it around the other way and only looking at it every mile. But its a tough one.

scriba · 26-04-2012 11:03pm

Best of luck Sunday Dave, I'd say you have a sub 50 in you (based on my minuscule knowledge and experience!). Judging by your log, I'd say you've enough work done to have a go and feel confident about it. Here's to staying injury free and feeling good on race day!

red face dave · 27-04-2012 9:02pm

Thanks, that's the fecking hardest thing Scriba is trying to stay injury free. Must say I am feeling quiet good this evening. Looking forward to racing again

Younganne · 28-04-2012 8:07pm

Well Dave how are you feeling about tomorrow, did you go out for a trot today?? hows the back...best of luck tomorrow and most of all ENJOY!!!:D

red face dave · 28-04-2012 8:21pm

Cheers Anne I'm not feeling to bad. Back pain is only 10% now and very mild. Feel like I am in good form. Didn't go for a run today was wary of pain coming back plus my good wife had me up out of the bed nice and early to start the process of looking for baby stuff.

I am going to give this a good lash tomorrow.

Younganne · 28-04-2012 9:08pm

oohh plenty of exciting times ahead for you....and i don't mean running related:D I take it, its the first so like the marathon enjoy the journey as you'll never have the first again!!!!!

Enjoy the race tomorrow!!

Nules10 · 28-04-2012 9:13pm

Congrats again Dave. When is the new arrival due? Enjoy and good luck in the race tomorrow.

red face dave · 28-04-2012 9:16pm

Thanks Anne first one alright great excitement. Might make the Dublin Marathon a bit tricky but should be okay time wise

red face dave · 28-04-2012 9:17pm

Thanks Nules he/she should be due mid November. Seems like ages away

Nules10 · 28-04-2012 9:25pm

Ahh Nice just in time for Christmas. It will fly in Dave. Make sure you are extra nice to the missus now

red face dave · 28-04-2012 9:34pm

Nules10 wrote: »

Ahh Nice just in time for Christmas. It will fly in Dave. Make sure you are extra nice to the missus now

Ha whatever. I always do:D

red face dave · 29-04-2012 6:29pm

Good day at the office but the weather didn't exactly play is part.
Felt very strong in the first 2 miles and I knew I could break the 50 minutes mark. Then mile 3 this has to be the longest road I have ever ran it just never seemed to end and then the wind which seemed to be going straight across us brought my pace right back. Once we left there I managed to control the breathing and make the final push
Crossed the line in a new record of 48.17 and a new p.b by 2 minutes

Mile 1- 7.36
Mile 2- 7.47
Mile 3- 7.52
Mile 4- 8.02
Mile 5- 8.07
Mile 6- 7.57

Nules10 · 29-04-2012 8:42pm

Nice one dave. awful day for it alright and i am sure if conditions were better you would have shaved a bit more off that time. Well done

red face dave · 29-04-2012 9:23pm

Thanks Nules yeah definitely think I could have gone another 1 - 1.30 minute quicker but that's for another day.

One lesson learned today never wear new shorts I can hardly walk now with the chafing;)

scriba · 29-04-2012 10:16pm

Excellent running Dave. Well done, reward yourself with copious amounts is sudocream!

Younganne · 29-04-2012 10:24pm

Dave were ye not listen in class last year when Ray said not to try anything new on race day;)

Congrats on the PB, the times are coming down nicely for you now.....well done!!!

next PB will be the Half...whats you current half time and whats the aim?

red face dave · 29-04-2012 10:42pm

scriba wrote: »

Excellent running Dave. Well done, reward yourself with copious amounts is sudocream!

Thanks Scriba. I swear to god I am walking like John Wyane.;). Nearly had a bath in it earlier on.

red face dave · 29-04-2012 10:49pm

Younganne wrote: »

Dave were ye not listen in class last year when Ray said not to try anything new on race day;)

Congrats on the PB, the times are coming down nicely for you now.....well done!!!

next PB will be the Half...whats you current half time and whats the aim?

Thanks Anne, that's one thing you should stress to all over at marathon 2012 I am in a bad way here

:D:D:D

Starting to see nice improvements in my times alright. All this club training might just be working.

Half marathon time at the moment is 1.50 hope for maybe a 1.48 in Ballina and a 1.43 for the year. Probably wishful thinking.

RayCun · 29-04-2012 10:53pm

next time

red face dave · 29-04-2012 11:04pm

I wouldn't mind but I am usually very good at putting on loads of vasaline. The one bloody day

Younganne · 29-04-2012 11:05pm

you live an learn!!! how did the back hold out Dave?? i bet with the chafting you forgot about the back;)

red face dave · 29-04-2012 11:10pm

Back was sound got the good wife to give it a rub. Had a really good warm up and cool down

red face dave · 01-05-2012 9:49pm

Back to the grindstone and another rubbish day for running. Seems to be the tone for these last few weeks can the weather get any worse a foreign holiday/warm weather training is looking more likely.

Anyway 4.5 miles done at 8.55 pace in 40.00

Did not enjoy this one bit, my breathing was all over the place and the legs felt like lead.

So have booked a massage for next Monday.

Mile 1 - 9.22
Mile 2 - 8.56
Mile 3 - 9.16
Mile 4 - 8.47
Mile 5 - 3.41

red face dave · 04-05-2012 7:53pm

Not feeling the best lately so not getting much done.
Got 2 walks in today. Probably wont get any runs done before Tuesday the only problem is I have the half marathon next weekend. Not to sure If I will do it yet. Just wondering is there anyone that could help what should I do training wise next week. I probably have not done enough training to push for a pb and the way I am feeling its going to be hard to finish.

Nules10 · 04-05-2012 9:14pm

Just go out and enjoy the race Dave. forget about the PB for this one. Do it as an LSR. And sure you never know what might happen on the day.... something just might click. If it does it does if it doesn't there is always the next race. As regards what training to do next week... i haven't a clue... anne can answer that one

Younganne · 04-05-2012 9:21pm

:Dyou called Nules!!

Dave if you want to use it like a taper week it won't do you any harm as you have been doing great running lately. if you can get a LSR up to 12m this weekend go for it, if not, no stress, as for next week go for 5 ish on Tuesday, similar with maybe 1 or 2 m at HM Pace, easy 3m Thur and slow trot of 1 or 2 mile on Sat, race on sunday....something like that but your overall fitness won't change in a week

As for the race, go with how you feel on the day...plenty of time for PB if it doesn't happen next week!!

Nules10 · 04-05-2012 9:28pm

That was quick Anne

Younganne · 04-05-2012 9:31pm

Nules10 wrote: »

That was quick Anne

you'll get your moneys worth out of me:eek:

red face dave · 04-05-2012 9:34pm

Super quick.

Thanks both of ye. Cant see the 12 happening this weekend just don't have the will to do it. Going to try this next week
Monday - 3 mile
Tues- 5 mile
Wednesday - 5 mile - 2 miles at half marathon pace
Thursday 2 miles.
Saturday - 13.1

Nules10 · 04-05-2012 9:39pm

Do what you can Dave. But the half might be just what you need... go out a run for a bit... great for head space. I left all my troubles in the park today for someone else to pick them up.... just hope its not anne

red face dave · 04-05-2012 9:41pm

Yeah went out for a walk today and found it great. Might try a run on Sunday its been a long week cant wait to get back to normality.

Younganne · 04-05-2012 9:42pm

i won't be running there till Tuesday so they'll be long gone by then...hopefully...:D

Dave just do what you can and it will all fall back into place when its ready too....don't worry too much about it for now

Nules10 · 04-05-2012 9:49pm

Go for a run sunday. leve the watch behind pop on some music and away you go. it will make you feel alot better then come home and tuck into a sunday roast

red face dave · 04-05-2012 9:51pm

Might go for a few pints tomorrow night first then run and then roast.:D:D

Nules10 · 04-05-2012 9:56pm

red face dave wrote: »

Might go for a few pints tomorrow night first then run and then roast.:D:D

That could work too

Younganne · 04-05-2012 9:58pm

Dave, Don't foget to take the High 5 Zero before you go (running not drinking:D)

Nules10 · 04-05-2012 10:01pm

Younganne wrote: »

Dave, Don't foget to take the High 5 Zero before you go (running not drinking:D)

I find taking the high5 tabs in water just before you go to bed after a night of drinking also works wonders

I am in no way advocating excessive drinking though

First grey hair and lack of motivation.

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