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Punching a woman - Justified or not? - MOD WARNING FIRST POST

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    #482
    13505
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭13505


    Hitting people is bad. Don't hit people. Has anyone posted this video yet? Rather interesting perspective.

    Why no linkinserterrthing?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f20Oz9Yr_So


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    #483
    R.F.
    Registered Users Posts: 566 ✭✭✭R.F.


    Id never punch a pretty girl


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    #484
    GenieOz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭GenieOz


    13505 wrote: »
    Hitting people is bad. Don't hit people. Has anyone posted this video yet? Rather interesting perspective.

    Why no linkinserterrthing?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f20Oz9Yr_So

    What in the name of god has enjoying domestic abuse got to do with this thread?


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    #485
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    IMO there's never any reason to punch anyone unless they are trying to or extremely likely to do you physical harm.
    Otherwise we're into the realm of "drove me to it". i.e. any old excuse at all.


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    #486
    13505
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭13505


    GenieOz wrote: »
    What in the name of god has enjoying domestic abuse got to do with this thread?

    Knock knock!

    Who's there?

    Hey don't get.

    Hey don't get who?

    Hey don't get so deep with me. I'm not looking too much into it. Jeez.


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    #487
    WilyCoyote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Spunge wrote: »
    If one gives a sucker punch i believe one waives all rights to the next punch one receives being labeled a sucker punch.

    Alcohol really is a disaster of a drug, turns normal people into violent nut cases.

    When you say "normal" are you talking about the 999.9% that have a good time or the 0.0001% that are dysfunctional in booze/chip on the shoulder/just pure nutter type?


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    #488
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    13505 wrote: »
    Hitting people is bad. Don't hit people. Has anyone posted this video yet? Rather interesting perspective.

    Why no linkinserterrthing?


    I think you have too few posts to have access to all the posting tools. Fixed it for ya anyway.


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    #489
    tfitzgerald
    Registered Users Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    sopretty wrote: »
    Would they get a punch on the face to knock them to the ground in the middle of a nightclub?

    No


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    #490
    Reventon93
    Registered Users Posts: 5,315 ✭✭✭Reventon93


    I think that OP was right to defend his friend. However, because he wasnt directly involved, by being puched, I think it was an over reaction.

    If he was puched, by all means hit them back. The fact that it was a women makes absolutely no difference to me in the scale of things.

    Women can be worse then men, as some have shown earlier In this thread, and of course you should defend yourself by any means if youre in danger. I dont get why theres such a doubble standard!

    And I know what the op means when he said that he was at a disadvantaged because of his size. Im 5'9 and if someone bigger than me had a go, male or female, theyd be getting back what they served.


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    #491
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Reventon93 wrote: »
    I think that OP was right to defend his friend. However, because he wasnt directly involved, by being puched, I think it was an over reaction.

    If he was puched, by all means hit them back. The fact that it was a women makes absolutely no difference to me in the scale of things.

    Women can be worse then men, as some have shown earlier In this thread, and of course you should defend yourself by any means if youre in danger. I dont get why theres such a doubble standard!

    And I know what the op means when he said that he was at a disadvantaged because of his size. Im 5'9 and if someone bigger than me had a go, male or female, theyd be getting back what they served.

    Would it be an overreaction if the word friend was replaced with Mother, Sister, Wife, or daughter?


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    #492
    chinacup
    Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭chinacup


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    sopretty, this was my first time I hit a girl and to be honest, if another girl decided to punch any of my female friends, I'd probably slap them in the face to cop the fúck on too.

    Just curious. Would you punch another male if one of your male friends was punched or is it just females you'd slap/protect?


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    #493
    sopretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭sopretty


    Indeed, what would you do OP, if a 6 foot tall man had hit your friend?


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    #494
    GenieOz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭GenieOz


    Do ye really think he only hit cause it was a woman?
    Whole new territory of accusation there.


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    #495
    jamo2oo9
    Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    arf91 wrote: »
    Just curious. Would you punch another male if one of your male friends was punched or is it just females you'd slap/protect?

    I'd still hit him. If you think it's women that I only hit, then you best leave. I'm not a woman beater and I don't beat people whenever I feel like it. I'd only hit people if they are hitting my friends or family.


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    #496
    chinacup
    Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭chinacup


    GenieOz wrote: »
    Do ye really think he only hit cause it was a woman?
    Whole new territory of accusation there.

    Excuse me theres no "accusation" its a question!


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    #497
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Would it be an overreaction if the word friend was replaced with Mother, Sister, Wife, or daughter?


    Why not rewrite the whole OP to suit the argument you're trying to make? The "if this, if that, if the other" works both ways to bolster a fallacious argument either way - if the person who attacked the OP's friend was a child who knocked his friend over, would the OP be justified in lifting the child off the floor with a kick under the chin?
    Why stop there, because you know just as well as I do that there will always be someone looking to justify their behaviour, and should people on the Internet be the moral judge and jury on just how far a person would be entitled to commit violent acts?

    The right thing to do there would've been to get his mate to a hospital and report the assault to Gardai, not take the law into his own hands when he had no authority to do so.

    Truth be told, I don't believe a word of the OP anyway, not because I don't believe it doesn't happen, but because the special sort of cnut capable of such an act wouldn't care what other people thought of their actions, certainly not enough to start a thread about it, but as fantasy stories go anyway it's a piss poor attempt at painting oneself out to be a hero.


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    #498
    chinacup
    Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭chinacup


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    I'd still hit him. If you think it's women that I only hit, then you best leave. I'm not a woman beater and I don't beat people whenever I feel like it. I'd only hit people if they are hitting my friends or family.

    Its the fact that you said "I'd slap another girl if they hit one of my girl friends" that made me ask. It made me wonder if you would be so protective of all your guy friends too.


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    #499
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Why not rewrite the whole OP to suit the argument you're trying to make? The "if this, if that, if the other" works both ways to bolster a fallacious argument either way - if the person who attacked the OP's friend was a child who knocked his friend over, would the OP be justified in lifting the child off the floor with a kick under the chin?
    Why stop there, because you know just as well as I do that there will always be someone looking to justify their behaviour, and should people on the Internet be the moral judge and jury on just how far a person would be entitled to commit violent acts?

    The right thing to do there would've been to get his mate to a hospital and report the assault to Gardai, not take the law into his own hands when he had no authority to do so.

    Truth be told, I don't believe a word of the OP anyway, not because I don't believe it doesn't happen, but because the special sort of cnut capable of such an act wouldn't care what other people thought of their actions, certainly not enough to start a thread about it, but as fantasy stories go anyway it's a piss poor attempt at painting oneself out to be a hero.

    Yeah call the guards:rolleyes:

    It's not about having "authority" it's about whether it's right or not to hit a woman in the act of defence. In ops position you say you would have walked away and called the guards, maybe you would maybe you wouldn't. Personally i would have done the same as OP, does that make me one of those "special sort of cnut" you refer to or just someone who lives in the real world?


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    #500
    jamo2oo9
    Registered Users Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Lets be honest with each other, men. You are in the exact same situation as me, dancing on the floor with your friend, random lady comes around, punches your friend in the face. Would you honestly stand around and call the guards? No, you'd hit her back unless you are gay then you'd pull her hair or something


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    #501
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Yeah call the guards:rolleyes:

    It's not about having "authority" it's about whether it's right or not to hit a woman in the act of defence. In ops position you say you would have walked away and called the guards, maybe you would maybe you wouldn't. Personally i would have done the same as OP, does that make me one of those "special sort of cnut" you refer to or just someone who lives in the real world?

    Living in the real world is assaulting people because you felt they were asking for it ?

    The OP didnt hit her in self defence he assaulted her after she assaulted his friend. I know I definitely wouldnt have hit her unless it was necessary and at the point the OP hit her it wasnt.


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    #502
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    Lets be honest with each other, men. You are in the exact same situation as me, dancing on the floor with your friend, random lady comes around, punches your friend in the face. Would you honestly stand around and call the guards? No, you'd hit her back unless you are gay then you'd pull her hair or something

    You're a real gem of a human being aint ya ? Trying all the girls on the dance floor looking your hole, dancing with the "fat bitch" so you done seem ignorant, needlessly punching a girl in the face and then calling anyone who wouldnt do the same gay.


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    #503
    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    jamo2oo9 won't be posting in the thread anymore.


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    #504
    peekachoo
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    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    Lets be honest with each other, men. You are in the exact same situation as me, dancing on the floor with your friend, random lady comes around, punches your friend in the face. Would you honestly stand around and call the guards? No, you'd hit her back unless you are gay then you'd pull her hair or something

    Oh man this is a whole other offensive territory youre crossing into :rolleyes:


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    #505
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    Living in the real world is assaulting people because you felt they were asking for it ?

    The OP didnt hit her in self defence he assaulted her after she assaulted his friend. I know I definitely wouldnt have hit her unless it was necessary and at the point the OP hit her it wasnt.

    I never said he hit her in self defence, also you were not there so you cannot say if it was necessary or not for him to strike back at the aggressor.


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    #506
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    bumper234 wrote: »
    I never said he hit her in self defence, also you were not there so you cannot say if it was necessary or not for him to strike back at the aggressor.

    I don't have to be there I just have to read what happened. The same info you use to state you'd have done the exact same thing the OP did.

    A girl hits my friend, I protect my friend. I grab the girl, I push her back, I stand between them, I call a bouncer etc. My first instinct wouldn't be to punch someone in the face. Its quite sad that would be the first instinct of so many and that they can so easily justify assault.


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    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    I don't have to be there I just have to read what happened. The same info you use to state you'd have done the exact same thing the OP did.

    A girl hits my friend, I protect my friend. I grab the girl, I push her back, I stand between them, I call a bouncer etc. My first instinct wouldn't be to punch someone in the face. Its quite sad that would be the first instinct of so many and that they can so easily justify assault.

    When acting in defence it's not assault ducy?


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    #508
    runawaybishop
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    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    Living in the real world is assaulting people because you felt they were asking for it ?

    The OP didnt hit her in self defence he assaulted her after she assaulted his friend. I know I definitely wouldnt have hit her unless it was necessary and at the point the OP hit her it wasnt.

    Wrong, it is considered self defense. Self defense is not assault.


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    #509
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Wrong, it is considered self defense.

    How is it self defence to hit someone who hasnt hit you ?


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    #510
    Reventon93
    Registered Users Posts: 5,315 ✭✭✭Reventon93


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Would it be an overreaction if the word friend was replaced with Mother, Sister, Wife, or daughter?

    If they were closer than the friend then no because it wouldn't be an over reaction but reacting to loyalty and there's a difference. Reacting on basic instinct over trying to sort out what just happened is massively different.

    Unless you are personally being attacked, there is always that moment when you think whether to react or not, and the reaction should have been to tell her to back off and then leave


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    #511
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    bumper234 wrote: »
    When acting in defence it's not assault ducy?

    Sure it is. Just because you want to defend your friend doesn't mean you can dole out punches. Self defence is one thing but "defence" is in this scenario is another and there was no need for the OP to hit the girl so it was plain old assault to lay her out with a punch to the face.


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