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All TV channels missing, but radio is fine - any ideas?

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  • #402
    bob11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭bob11


    Hi Guys,

    Just returned from a few weeks hols and have lost my channels due to 3 rock frequency change,
    Has any got a hotel file that would work for either a Panasonic 50V10 or 37LZD81 with new 3 Rock frequencies ?

    Cheers,

    Bob


  • #403
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    Use the procedure for your V10 from here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79734770&postcount=3
    You don't have to change the frequency because the file include already the new frequency for 3rock.

    The PZ81/LZD81 problem is still not solved.


  • #404
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    If ever there was a time for RTÉNL to have a few hours amnesty for Panasonic victims owners....

    It's not RTE NL's problem, nor should a service provider bail out the stupidity of a Manufacturer...

    If ever there was a time for RTÉNL to have a few hours amnesty Panasonic to release a simple small Firmware update for Panasonic victims...


  • #405
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    watty wrote: »
    It's not RTE NL's problem, nor should a service provider bail out the stupidity of a Manufacturer...

    If ever there was a time for RTÉNL to have a few hours amnesty Panasonic to release a simple small Firmware update for Panasonic victims...
    Agreed but they have made it quite clear that they don't give a monkey's about customers once they have their money. You just have to look at all the disappointed UK owners who can't get certain features working either.


  • #406
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Buy LG :)

    I can't print what my Service Manager called Panasonic (Semi-Professional video gear) in the late 1970s. They have always been about charging a premium due marketing perception and externals rather than absolute quality inside the box. Like B&O or Apple.


  • #407
    bob11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭bob11


    maxg wrote: »
    Use the procedure for your V10 from here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79734770&postcount=3
    You don't have to change the frequency because the file include already the new frequency for 3rock.

    The PZ81/LZD81 problem is still not solved.

    Thanks ,

    Which version of setedit do I download ?

    Cheers,

    Bob


  • #408
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    bob11 wrote: »
    Which version of setedit do I download ?

    You don't need setedit Panasonic because the right frequency for 3rock is already included in the file from board member G10B.
    Simply exchange the svl.db at the sd card.


  • #409
    bob11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭bob11


    Thanks Guys,

    Just copied the file to my sd card and my channels are back working on the v10,

    If only the lzd81 was as easy ...

    Thanks again,

    Bob


  • #410
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    bob11 wrote: »
    Thanks Guys,

    Just copied the file to my sd card and my channels are back working on the v10,

    If only the lzd81 was as easy ...

    Thanks again,

    Bob

    Ho Ho.... that could have went wrong. You used an SVL.DB file from a hotel file from a G10 on a V10. :)


  • #411
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    STB wrote: »
    Ho Ho.... that could have went wrong. You used an SVL.DB file from a hotel file from a G10 on a V10. :)

    There is no difference. Channel list is channel list.
    I checked it via an sqlite database browser.


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  • #412
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    maxg wrote: »
    There is no difference. Channel list is channel list.
    I checked it via an sqlite database browser.

    Unfortunately a channel list is not always a channel list and can contain other important information and can have dependencies like CI and channel display characteristics. This is evident in binary files used on set top boxes.

    Does the Sqlite db browser understand the SVL files from a hotel file from the PZ81s or is it encrypted ?


  • #413
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    STB wrote: »
    Unfortunately a channel list is not always a channel list and can contain other important information and can have dependencies like CI and channel display characteristics. This is evident in binary files used on set top boxes.

    There is no difference in tuners and ci-slot between the models.
    Does the Sqlite db browser understand the SVL files from a hotel file from the PZ81s or is it encrypted ?

    Setedit Panasonic can decrypt and read the svl_file from the 81 series but cannot write back changes. The decrypted tmp file from setedit shows /work/svl_file as header. I have no idea which format is used for the file.


  • #414
    daithi_dearg
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭daithi_dearg


    Any suggestions for someone with a Ferguson Ariva 120.

    Appreciate any info.


  • #415
    winston_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭winston_1


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    Agreed but they have made it quite clear that they don't give a monkey's about customers once they have their money. You just have to look at all the disappointed UK owners who can't get certain features working either.

    Yet there are still people on these forums and other forums who want to buy Panachronic.:confused:


  • #416
    fcukreg
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭fcukreg


    Would anyone have a Hotel.pwd set of backup files for the LCD Panasonic TX-LZD81...?

    Three Rock transmitter version...

    Someone did a rescan yesterday and lost all teh RTE channels...

    Latest one I find here on boards is missing RTE News 24 & 3e and the radio channels...
    These were available in the most recent of the backups.

    Thanks....


  • #417
    bob11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭bob11


    maxg wrote: »
    You don't need setedit Panasonic because the right frequency for 3rock is already included in the file from board member G10B.
    Simply exchange the svl.db at the sd card.


    Hi Guys,

    Back to the retune issue with Panasonics ..

    As my Panasonic 50V10 will soon be losing it's channels due to the new Mux launch, would anyone have a retuned verision of the svl.db file for 3-Rock ?

    I think the last time that this happened , I was able to copy a version of the svl.db file from another Panasonic TV and it worked ..

    Any help greatly appreciated ..

    Cheers,

    Bob


  • #418
    G10B
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭G10B


    bob11 wrote: »
    I was able to copy a version of the svl.db file from another Panasonic TV and it worked ..

    I can provide an updated svl.db for G10B.
    Don't have file to hand & I will need to modify the frequencies to match Three Rocks but I will do that & upload tonight.


  • #419
    bob11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭bob11


    G10B wrote: »
    I can provide an updated svl.db for G10B.
    Don't have file to hand & I will need to modify the frequencies to match Three Rocks but I will do that & upload tonight.

    Thanks G10B ..

    I think it was your file that I used previously as well ..

    Cheers,

    Bob


  • #420
    G10B
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭G10B


    Three Rock Saorview multi-mux G10B file........
    (re-scan of freesat channels required once file is loaded)


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  • #421
    bob11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭bob11


    G10B wrote: »
    Three Rock Saorview multi-mux G10B file........
    (re-scan of freesat channels required once file is loaded)

    Thanks G10B,

    That worked a treat ..

    No HD DOG on RTE1 obviously ..

    I wonder will they be putting this on ?

    Cheers,

    Bob


  • #422
    daithi7
    Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭daithi7


    fcukreg wrote: »
    Would anyone have a Hotel.pwd set of backup files for the LCD Panasonic TX-LZD81...?

    Three Rock transmitter version...

    Someone did a rescan yesterday and lost all teh RTE channels...

    Latest one I find here on boards is missing RTE News 24 & 3e and the radio channels...
    These were available in the most recent of the backups.

    Thanks....

    Hi Fcukreg,

    Just spotted your request, I haven't viewed this thread for a long while...

    Let me know if you still need the lzd81 file, as I have an old copy of the lzd81 hotel file if you want it. I keep a back up just in case of an accidental channel scan that loses all the top tuners settings.

    My files just have tuner settings for the 4 Irish channels plus Rte news channel and occasionally 3e (don't ask me) and the radio channels. There have been a few +1 channels added to this list since by Saotview but of course I can't get them cos I can't do a rescan or I'll lose everything. Grrrr....

    Anyway I presume you got sorted at this stage but let me know and I'll be glad to post up here (I'm based in Cork so AFAIK hotel file is transmitter dependant, so you'd need to be tuning into same Rte (Saor view) transmitter)


  • #423
    daithi7
    Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭daithi7


    On a related query, despite putting in a UK address in my I use data on my lzd37s, I still can't tune into had channels for some reason. Does anyone know of a fix for this?? (I thought it was to just enter a UK address but this does not seem to be working for me for some good forsaken reason!?)

    Thanks for all replies,
    D


  • #424
    JonathonS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭JonathonS


    I have had the same problem on my PZ81, never found a solution. I've decided to upgrade to a new Panny plasma with sat and Saorview tuners, before they disappear from the shops forever. I'm waiting for the Jan sales but I've been told not to expect any big discounts - apparently all the plasma fans like myself are out in force bargain hunting, and its a sellers market.


  • #425
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    Did you try setedit for your PZ81?


  • #426
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    Testfile for PZ81 and 3rock.
    A freesat rescan is needed after the hotel files are reloaded.


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  • #427
    GadgetGeek
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭GadgetGeek


    maxg wrote: »
    Did you try setedit for your PZ81?

    Has anyone tried setedit for PZ81? I don't know but would be willing to give it a try (with the possibility of losing RTE1). Is there a danger of bricking the box? Have you details?
    Thanks.


  • #428
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    If its not working you would have to do a factory reset. Thats all.
    Which transmitter do you receive?


  • #429
    winston_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭winston_1


    JonathonS wrote: »
    I have had the same problem on my PZ81, never found a solution. I've decided to upgrade to a new Panny plasma with sat and Saorview tuners, before they disappear from the shops forever. I'm waiting for the Jan sales but I've been told not to expect any big discounts - apparently all the plasma fans like myself are out in force bargain hunting, and its a sellers market.

    You mean you are going for another Panachronic after all the problems! Some people never learn. Modern Panachronics are also hobbled and don't work with Freeview and Saorview together.

    Read this:

    http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1885631&highlight=hobbled+panasonic


  • #430
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Also zero future support and only money back warranty as they have exited Plasma production. Some Plasma sets I looked at 6 months ago very "cost reduced" and poor on features compared to badged by everyone Vestels. No Idea who "really" made them.


  • #431
    GadgetGeek
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭GadgetGeek


    maxg wrote: »
    If its not working you would have to do a factory reset. Thats all.
    Which transmitter do you receive?

    I'm in da real capital, so I get a good signal from mullaghanish & spur hill. I have an old scan of soarview ( I'm missing rte jr etc), but I have the ones I need, that is until rte 1 goes hd, then the one I have tuned goes dead. I didn't think the factory reset worked on the PZ81?


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  • #432
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    Factory reset is working on every Panasonic tv.

    Backup your original svr_file.
    Your test file:


  • #433
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I am a bit confused.

    I have read that doing a factory reset will restore a TH-50PZ81Bs ability to decode the BBC HD satellite channels. I haven't done this as I am still able to get the original DVB channels from a scan when they were testing. I have saved a hotel file.

    If I do a factory reset, presumably I will get the BBC HD channels back, but lose the terrestrial DVB channels. If I then restore from the hotel file will I then lose the BBC HD channels? I would presume so.

    So it's it's catch 22?

    The home page of that Setedit program just says 'Panasonic Viera' So would this software work with my TV? Would it let me do a factory reset to restore the HD channels and then allow me to edit things so I can get all the DVB channels as well?

    As it stands I am tempted to do the factory reset and do without the local DVB channels as I rarely watch them because the picture quality is terrible. I think it was better with analogue.


  • #434
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    cnocbui wrote: »
    I am a bit confused.

    I have read that doing a factory reset will restore a TH-50PZ81Bs ability to decode the BBC HD satellite channels. I haven't done this as I am still able to get the original DVB channels from a scan when they were testing. I have saved a hotel file.




    Backup the svl_file from your hotel_setup folder.
    Replace the svl_file with a matching file from here.
    Upload it to the tv.
    If the saorview channels are working do a new freesat scan.
    It its not working use your backup svl_file and let it write back to your tv.


  • #435
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    maxg wrote: »
    Backup the svl_file from your hotel_setup folder.
    Replace the svl_file with a matching file from here.
    Upload it to the tv.
    If the saorview channels are working do a new freesat scan.
    It its not working use your backup svl_file and let it write back to your tv.

    I don't fully understand. I currently have the DVB saorview channels for my area - Tipperary.

    Doing a Freesat scan does not fix the the problem introduced when the BBC switched their HD channel encoding system - only a full factory reset will fix that going by what I have read. http://www.avforums.com/threads/heads-up-bbc-hd-viewers.1466434/

    Obviously a factory reset will lose the saorview channels, but would a restore from a SVL file then lose the HD channels restored by doing the factory reset?


  • #436
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    @cnocbui

    My svr_file include no freesat channels. Its like a reset only for freesat if the saorview channels are working. The sense of the new svr_files is to get RTE1HD. But its currently not tested.
    Tell me your transmitter and i will create one for you for testing.


  • #437
    Ninjakettle
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭Ninjakettle


    Following the last conversation with interest.
    My folks have a plasma Pz81 with this old problem. I understood Factory Reset to be catch 22 also.

    If there is a fix i'd be willing to give it a go.
    I'm in North East Galway (not really sure what transmitter that makes me)


  • #438
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    maxg wrote: »
    @cnocbui

    My svr_file include no freesat channels. Its like a reset only for freesat if the saorview channels are working. The sense of the new svr_files is to get RTE1HD. But its currently not tested.
    Tell me your transmitter and i will create one for you for testing.

    Thank you. I don't know what main transmitter mirrors my channels. I have my antennae pointed at a local repeater that serves Killaloe, if that's any help.

    From what you say, it looks like I should give the factory reset a go and upload a svr file as that should solve all problems without a catch 22.


  • #439
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    If the svr_file route is working you don't need a factory reset.
    What is the UHF Channel (CH) you get the saorview channels currently?
    Menu button -> setup -> Tuning menu -> dvb signal conditions.


  • #440
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    maxg wrote: »
    If the svr_file route is working you don't need a factory reset.
    What is the UHF Channel (CH) you get the saorview channels currently?
    Menu button -> setup -> Tuning menu -> dvb signal conditions.

    [CH21] 808 RTÉ News Now - I don't get it - no matter which channel I select it always says [CH21] - so [CH21] 806 TV 3, [CH21] 805 RTÉ 2 etc.

    Why don't I need to do the factory reset - surely that is the only way to get the Freeview BBC HD channels which are now DVB-S2?


  • #441
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    If you get the channels at ch21 its Mullaghanish for whatever reason.


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  • #442
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    maxg wrote: »
    If you get the channels at ch21 its Mullaghanish for whatever reason.

    Thank you!

    I shall do a factory reset and try loading that and report back. Probably won't have time to do it till tomorrow.

    Thanks again.


  • #443
    GadgetGeek
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭GadgetGeek


    maxg wrote: »
    Factory reset is working on every Panasonic tv.

    Backup your original svr_file.
    Your test file:
    No joy maxy.
    Backed up my PZ81B, swapped my svl_file with your one, did the factory reset and uploaded the file. No DVB channels tried a scan, it added 10 radio and 2 data.
    I tried both your Spur hill and Mullaghanish.
    Put back my old files, all is as was before. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Any other ideas?
    Thanks.


  • #444
    GadgetGeek
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭GadgetGeek


    maxg wrote: »
    If the svr_file route is working you don't need a factory reset.
    What is the UHF Channel (CH) you get the saorview channels currently?
    Menu button -> setup -> Tuning menu -> dvb signal conditions.
    FYI
    I'm viewing Spur Hill on [CH45] Signal Quality and Strength 10/10.


  • #445
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    €45 for a set-box?


  • #446
    GadgetGeek
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭GadgetGeek


    watty wrote: »
    €45 for a set-box?

    True and a extra remote, why couldn't it be a bit simpler?
    Happy Christmas to one and all!
    Ho Ho Ho


  • #447
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    GadgetGeek wrote: »
    True and a extra remote, why couldn't it be a bit simpler?
    Happy Christmas to one and all!
    Ho Ho Ho

    Just use your mobile phone as a universal remote........


  • #448
    maxg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    GadgetGeek wrote: »
    No joy maxy.
    Backed up my PZ81B, swapped my svl_file with your one, did the factory reset and uploaded the file. No DVB channels tried a scan, it added 10 radio and 2 data.
    I tried both your Spur hill and Mullaghanish.
    Put back my old files, all is as was before. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Any other ideas?
    Thanks.

    In such a case only Litzinger the author of setedit can help.
    Setedit destroy the logical numbering after a change. This is maybe the problem.
    It would be a good idea to create a svl_file only with the radio channels and send the file to Litzinger and point out the problem.


  • #449
    Ninjakettle
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭Ninjakettle


    Well folks, happy xmas.

    Does anybody have hotel/svr files for Maghera?

    Looking at the tv here, someone has already done the factory reset and there's no DVB-T channels. Only Radio and a couple of DATA - all on Ch48/55.

    God knows where the sdcard/hotel file i made from last year is but i'll look.
    Would an SVR file help here?


  • #450
    Charlie-Bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Anyone here with an LZD81 and Hotel file with Saorview on Ch52 Vertical (Greystones Relay for me). Thanks!

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  • #451
    Charlie-Bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Ok, got an on-screen message via satellite for an update on the LZD81 today. It's for version 2.608. I'm going to do some research before I install and will check back...

    -. . ...- . .-. / --. --- -. -. .- / --. .. ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / ..- .--.



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