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All TV channels missing, but radio is fine - any ideas?

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    #392
    Aepos
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Aepos


    I see that RTE are changing the frequency/Channel for 3 Rock.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056686609

    This will really screw up the early Panasonic users who use the Hotel file system of getting some sort of SAORVIEW TV reception.....

    Ae


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    #393
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Yes Aepos, unfortunately this is true.

    You could look for a Hotel File for Holywell Hill as its also Ch30, should one exist on this forum.


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    #394
    maxg
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    Aepos wrote: »
    I see that RTE are changing the frequency/Channel for 3 Rock.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056686609

    This will really screw up the early Panasonic users who use the Hotel file system of getting some sort of SAORVIEW TV reception.....

    Ae

    Post your svl_file after a fresh scan.
    Sededit version 1.05 is now able to decrypt a svl_file. You see only garbage inside the editor but the temprorary file which sededit creates is readable via an pc hexeditor.
    In an old file the entry for rte starts with the channel number 800 (0320 in hex byte swapped to 2003) and the service-id 01 for TV.


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    #395
    Aepos
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Aepos


    maxg, Thanks for the info svl_file attached. Cheers Ae


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    #396
    maxg
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    @Aepos
    Sorry, it is not possible to save changes. Maybe in the next setedit version.


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    #397
    Aepos
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Aepos


    maxg wrote: »
    @Aepos
    Sorry, it is not possible to save changes. Maybe in the next setedit version.


    Yes I had a go with the demo version, It would be very handy if we can save modified svl_file 's.

    Thanks Ae


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    #398
    maxg
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    @Aepos
    Maybe it is worth a try to do a factory reset, skip the freesat scan and let only scan for dvb-t channels.
    Setedit has problems with freesat channels anyway and it could be possible to edit the channel list if only the saorview radio channels are included.
    You can do a freesat scan always afterwards.


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    #399
    pipkato
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭pipkato


    I'm one of those unfortunates with an early Panasonic PZ81 TV getting my signal from Three Rock. I'm not a techie, so don't really understand the implications of these changes. I was the thread starter after a rescan lost all of my Irish digital channels.

    Does this change mean I'll lose access to my Saorview digital channels? If so, is there any workaround, or source of an alternative SD card file?

    Thanks.


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    #400
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    pipkato wrote: »
    I'm one of those unfortunates with an early Panasonic PZ81 TV getting my signal from Three Rock. I'm not a techie, so don't really understand the implications of these changes. I was the thread starter after a rescan lost all of my Irish digital channels.

    Does this change mean I'll lose access to my Saorview digital channels? If so, is there any workaround, or source of an alternative SD card file?

    Thanks.

    The implications are that you will loose your channels as the scanned channels you have right now are on Channel 54. These are moving to Channel 30, next week.

    So you would have to rescan and your PZ81 will not find the channels due to Panasonic short circuiting the firmware to disallow anything that is not MPEG2 stations.

    To bypass this you need to do one of 2 things. Use a hotel SD card file from someone else's PZ81 that currently watches Saorview on Channel 30 in the country (Holywell in Donegal is Channel 30) or find a PC channel editor that allows for the editing of a hotel svl file. The latter is what maxg is trying to achieve. Should he get it to work it will be a good solution.

    Finding a hotel file for Holywell for channel 30 on this forum is probably a more immediate solution.

    Make sense ?


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    #401
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users Posts: 4,543 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    If ever there was a time for RTÉNL to have a few hours amnesty for Panasonic victims owners....


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    #402
    bob11
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭bob11


    Hi Guys,

    Just returned from a few weeks hols and have lost my channels due to 3 rock frequency change,
    Has any got a hotel file that would work for either a Panasonic 50V10 or 37LZD81 with new 3 Rock frequencies ?

    Cheers,

    Bob


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    #403
    maxg
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    Use the procedure for your V10 from here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79734770&postcount=3
    You don't have to change the frequency because the file include already the new frequency for 3rock.

    The PZ81/LZD81 problem is still not solved.


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    #404
    watty
    Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    If ever there was a time for RTÉNL to have a few hours amnesty for Panasonic victims owners....

    It's not RTE NL's problem, nor should a service provider bail out the stupidity of a Manufacturer...

    If ever there was a time for RTÉNL to have a few hours amnesty Panasonic to release a simple small Firmware update for Panasonic victims...


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    #405
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users Posts: 4,543 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    watty wrote: »
    It's not RTE NL's problem, nor should a service provider bail out the stupidity of a Manufacturer...

    If ever there was a time for RTÉNL to have a few hours amnesty Panasonic to release a simple small Firmware update for Panasonic victims...
    Agreed but they have made it quite clear that they don't give a monkey's about customers once they have their money. You just have to look at all the disappointed UK owners who can't get certain features working either.


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    #406
    watty
    Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Buy LG :)

    I can't print what my Service Manager called Panasonic (Semi-Professional video gear) in the late 1970s. They have always been about charging a premium due marketing perception and externals rather than absolute quality inside the box. Like B&O or Apple.


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    #407
    bob11
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭bob11


    maxg wrote: »
    Use the procedure for your V10 from here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79734770&postcount=3
    You don't have to change the frequency because the file include already the new frequency for 3rock.

    The PZ81/LZD81 problem is still not solved.

    Thanks ,

    Which version of setedit do I download ?

    Cheers,

    Bob


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    #408
    maxg
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    bob11 wrote: »
    Which version of setedit do I download ?

    You don't need setedit Panasonic because the right frequency for 3rock is already included in the file from board member G10B.
    Simply exchange the svl.db at the sd card.


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    #409
    bob11
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭bob11


    Thanks Guys,

    Just copied the file to my sd card and my channels are back working on the v10,

    If only the lzd81 was as easy ...

    Thanks again,

    Bob


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    #410
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    bob11 wrote: »
    Thanks Guys,

    Just copied the file to my sd card and my channels are back working on the v10,

    If only the lzd81 was as easy ...

    Thanks again,

    Bob

    Ho Ho.... that could have went wrong. You used an SVL.DB file from a hotel file from a G10 on a V10. :)


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    #411
    maxg
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    STB wrote: »
    Ho Ho.... that could have went wrong. You used an SVL.DB file from a hotel file from a G10 on a V10. :)

    There is no difference. Channel list is channel list.
    I checked it via an sqlite database browser.


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    #412
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    maxg wrote: »
    There is no difference. Channel list is channel list.
    I checked it via an sqlite database browser.

    Unfortunately a channel list is not always a channel list and can contain other important information and can have dependencies like CI and channel display characteristics. This is evident in binary files used on set top boxes.

    Does the Sqlite db browser understand the SVL files from a hotel file from the PZ81s or is it encrypted ?


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    #413
    maxg
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭maxg


    STB wrote: »
    Unfortunately a channel list is not always a channel list and can contain other important information and can have dependencies like CI and channel display characteristics. This is evident in binary files used on set top boxes.

    There is no difference in tuners and ci-slot between the models.
    Does the Sqlite db browser understand the SVL files from a hotel file from the PZ81s or is it encrypted ?

    Setedit Panasonic can decrypt and read the svl_file from the 81 series but cannot write back changes. The decrypted tmp file from setedit shows /work/svl_file as header. I have no idea which format is used for the file.


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    #414
    daithi_dearg
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭daithi_dearg


    Any suggestions for someone with a Ferguson Ariva 120.

    Appreciate any info.


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    #415
    winston_1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭winston_1


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    Agreed but they have made it quite clear that they don't give a monkey's about customers once they have their money. You just have to look at all the disappointed UK owners who can't get certain features working either.

    Yet there are still people on these forums and other forums who want to buy Panachronic.:confused:


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    #416
    fcukreg
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭fcukreg


    Would anyone have a Hotel.pwd set of backup files for the LCD Panasonic TX-LZD81...?

    Three Rock transmitter version...

    Someone did a rescan yesterday and lost all teh RTE channels...

    Latest one I find here on boards is missing RTE News 24 & 3e and the radio channels...
    These were available in the most recent of the backups.

    Thanks....


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    #417
    bob11
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭bob11


    maxg wrote: »
    You don't need setedit Panasonic because the right frequency for 3rock is already included in the file from board member G10B.
    Simply exchange the svl.db at the sd card.


    Hi Guys,

    Back to the retune issue with Panasonics ..

    As my Panasonic 50V10 will soon be losing it's channels due to the new Mux launch, would anyone have a retuned verision of the svl.db file for 3-Rock ?

    I think the last time that this happened , I was able to copy a version of the svl.db file from another Panasonic TV and it worked ..

    Any help greatly appreciated ..

    Cheers,

    Bob


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    #418
    G10B
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭G10B


    bob11 wrote: »
    I was able to copy a version of the svl.db file from another Panasonic TV and it worked ..

    I can provide an updated svl.db for G10B.
    Don't have file to hand & I will need to modify the frequencies to match Three Rocks but I will do that & upload tonight.


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    #419
    bob11
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭bob11


    G10B wrote: »
    I can provide an updated svl.db for G10B.
    Don't have file to hand & I will need to modify the frequencies to match Three Rocks but I will do that & upload tonight.

    Thanks G10B ..

    I think it was your file that I used previously as well ..

    Cheers,

    Bob


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    #420
    G10B
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭G10B


    Three Rock Saorview multi-mux G10B file........
    (re-scan of freesat channels required once file is loaded)


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    #421
    bob11
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭bob11


    G10B wrote: »
    Three Rock Saorview multi-mux G10B file........
    (re-scan of freesat channels required once file is loaded)

    Thanks G10B,

    That worked a treat ..

    No HD DOG on RTE1 obviously ..

    I wonder will they be putting this on ?

    Cheers,

    Bob


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