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RAF Regiment win military comps

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  • 27-06-2013 12:34am
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    cruasder777
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    The Elite RAF Regiment defeat the US Army Rangers and Ex Russian Special Forces in military comp.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c7kqyCpk4Qc



    And RAF Regiment, yet again win British Army Bisley Sniper comp, defeating army and Royal Marines.


    The RAF Regiment produce some of the best snipers in the British armed forces, the majority of SAS snipers are from the Parachute Regiment or RAF Reg Snipers. Potential RAF Regiment Gunners need to score higher on the Barb test,(hence why RAF Reg gunners dont sound thick as alot of pongos do), pre recruit fitness standards are the same as the Parachute Regiment (1.5 miles in under 9mins 45secs etc), basic training is also alot more demanding then army infantry regiments. RAF Regiment Paras pass the RAF version of P company.


    The Trainee Gunner course is a physically arduous course and includes the standard RAF recruit training syllabus, fitness training, weapon handling, marksmanship, navigation, fieldcraft, basic tactics and the skills and behaviour expected of an RAF Regiment Gunner. Almost half of the course is spent in the field or on ranges. On successful completion of the course the student is ready to undertake phase 3 specialist training before being able to deploy on operations with an RAF Regiment operational field squadron.


    The RAF Regiment also suppliers gunners to 1 Para, the Special Forces support Group.


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    amurph0
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    cruasder777
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    I find it amusing the army dont rate the RAF Regiment, when the RAF Regiment operate and train to a higher standard, even having a medium and long range patrol role.

    The RAF Regiment also has more specialist kit.

    Some of the training and roles the RAF Regiment supplies to the Army and Royal Marines includes:

    FAC Parties
    Bde Air Liaison Officers
    Special Forces Support Group
    Joint CBRN Regt
    Counter Terrorism
    Instrutors at Warminster and Sandhurst
    Joint Personnel Recovery
    Survival Training
    Mountain Leader Training


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    pablomakaveli
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    I've never seen elite and RAF regiment used in the same sentence before.

    Are you in the RAF regt op?


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    cruasder777
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    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    I've never seen elite and RAF regiment used in the same sentence before.

    Are you in the RAF regt op?


    If the RAF Reg were not elite they would not supply Gunners to the Special Forces Support Group would they? And have Special Forces Gucchi Kit.

    The only others who do are the Paras and Marines.

    8 Field Squadrons provide ground security for RAF operations. This role is not limited to simple perimeter security but can include aggressive patrols out into the surrounding area. Weaponry and equipment available to field squadrons include MWMIK Jackals, WMIK Land Rovers, hmgs, gpmgs and 81mm mortars. Other RAF Regiment roles include provision of Tactical Air Control Parties (TACPs), CBRN detection and decontamination, combat search and rescue and special forces support.


    The RAF Regiment are world Leaders in air Minded soldiering.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x68QxBUiIAw#at=57


    The Elite units of UK landforces are obviously SF and support units, the Paras and Para support units, RMs and support units, RAF Regiment,148 Battery
    and 4/73 Sphinx' Battery Royal Artillery and the Honourable Artillery Company.


    The Royal Irish who basically do a good job as a support unit to the Paras, Ie guarding and holding ground the Paras have taken, are nowhere to be seen.

    The only army infantry to be considered elite would be the Rifles army commando battalion.


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    helimachoptor
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    But are they Tier 1 special forces :pac::pac:


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    pablomakaveli
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    cruasder777 wrote: »
    If the RAF Reg were not elite they would not supply Gunners to the Special Forces Support Group would they? And have Special Forces Gucchi Kit.

    The only others who do are the Paras and Marines.

    8 Field Squadrons provide ground security for RAF operations. This role is not limited to simple perimeter security but can include aggressive patrols out into the surrounding area. Weaponry and equipment available to field squadrons include MWMIK Jackals, WMIK Land Rovers, hmgs, gpmgs and 81mm mortars. Other RAF Regiment roles include provision of Tactical Air Control Parties (TACPs), CBRN detection and decontamination, combat search and rescue and special forces support.


    The RAF Regiment are world Leaders in air Minded soldiering.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x68QxBUiIAw#at=57


    The Elite units of UK landforces are obviously SF and support units, the Paras and Para support units, RMs and support units, RAF Regiment,148 Battery
    and 4/73 Sphinx' Battery Royal Artillery and the Honourable Artillery Company.


    The Royal Irish who basically do a good job as a support unit to the Paras, Ie guarding and holding ground the Paras have taken, are nowhere to be seen.

    The only army infantry to be considered elite would be the Rifles army commando battalion.

    Actually the recruits for special forces can come from any corps or cap badge. It's just the majority come from the paras and marines.

    Also given how the RAF regt are so "elite" it's funny how the ones I've met have complained of doing nothing and being bored when deployed to Afghanistan. Seem like this elite regt is being under utilised at the moment in favour of hat regts like the royal Irish and rifles.

    (Also Ill take the answer to my earlier question of are you in the RAF regt as a no then)


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    cruasder777
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    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    Actually the recruits for special forces can come from any corps or cap badge. It's just the majority come from the paras and marines.

    Also given how the RAF regt are so "elite" it's funny how the ones I've met have complained of doing nothing and being bored when deployed to Afghanistan. Seem like this elite regt is being under utilised at the moment in favour of hat regts like the royal Irish and rifles.

    (Also Ill take the answer to my earlier question of are you in the RAF regt as a no then)


    I was talking about the Special Forces Support Group.

    Doing nothing, yeah right. Some how I think you are Bsing, Its the RAF Regiment who often go in with the Paras in airboune operations, due to their specialist role, the likes of the Royal Irish simply supply support after its all over.

    Medium and Long Range Patrols go out up to 60 miles from base in support of the of SFSG and QRF.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCUgDi3u3Qw


    34 Squadron Have only just returned home.


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    discus
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    I'll delve into this later, but this thread sums up entirely why you are nothing but a fantasist walt.


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    discus
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    And it's not just army who hate you, the real services all despise you and your ilk equally.


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    DipStick McSwindler
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    pablomakaveli
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    IrishFeeney92 wrote: »
    hard luck discus.......maybe next time

    He's right. OP is spouting a load of fantasist nonsense. Try telling a Marine or Para that their equal to a guy from the RAF regiment and see what happens.


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    pablomakaveli
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    IrishFeeney92 wrote: »
    I was referring to the 3 posts discus made a moment ago (which he has since deleted)

    Ah fair enough. Hadn't seen that.


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    discus
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    Well, i deleted the duplicate post... There were 'ex' RAF regt in my basic training, who claimed they did 1 field exercise, and it was conducted from a hanger.

    It's embarrassing that someone would claim that RAF regt are equal to the 'RM and their support units' ( surely you mean 3 Commando Brigade, of which 148bty are a part of) considering that there is a single RAF officer currently badged from the all arms commando course.

    Also, the rifles commando battalion is gone.

    Also the Royal Irish don't support the paras. That's not their job. They are a unit in their own right within 16 air assault brigade.

    And finally, RAF regt training doesn't match catterick.

    There is so much **** in this guys posts, I'm convinced he's a troll.


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    tac foley
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    ...and STILL we await an answer to the question - is he or is he not RAF Regiment?

    tac


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    cruasder777
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    discus wrote: »
    Well, i deleted the duplicate post... There were 'ex' RAF regt in my basic training, who claimed they did 1 field exercise, and it was conducted from a hanger.

    It's embarrassing that someone would claim that RAF regt are equal to the 'RM and their support units' ( surely you mean 3 Commando Brigade, of which 148bty are a part of) considering that there is a single RAF officer currently badged from the all arms commando course.

    Also, the rifles commando battalion is gone.

    Also the Royal Irish don't support the paras. That's not their job. They are a unit in their own right within 16 air assault brigade.

    And finally, RAF regt training doesn't match catterick.

    There is so much **** in this guys posts, I'm convinced he's a troll.

    So you knew a bloke who could not hack the impecable standards of basic training in the RAF reg so took the easy option of army infantry training. then slagged off the RAF regiment.

    Absolute nonsense, the Royal Irish role is to hold the ground taken by the initial infantry air assault and play second fiddle to the Paras.

    The RAF Regiment field gunner basic training course is 29 weeks.

    There are 5 field exercises,( not inc numerous live fire exercises), week 9 fieldcraft exercise. Week 13 Forest exercise (equivilent to the RMs Hunters Moon), week 15 navigation exercise inc overnight navigation, week 16 patrols skills exercise, week 18 operation Omega exercise.


    If a Gunner goes on to do the RAF version of P coy to be a Para, its 33 weeks in total.


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    cruasder777
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    discus wrote: »
    And it's not just army who hate you, the real services all despise you and your ilk equally.

    Real services lol ?

    The average RAF Gunner is fitter, more intelligent and better trained and better turned out then the average pongo, fact.

    Everything the RAF Regiment does is to a worldclass standard from drill to fitness to professional standards.

    Why do you think RAF gunners serve with the Special Forces support group and pongos dont ?


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    cruasder777
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    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    He's right. OP is spouting a load of fantasist nonsense. Try telling a Marine or Para that their equal to a guy from the RAF regiment and see what happens.

    Fitness standards the same as the Paras and RAF Paras do the same version of P coy run by the RAF.

    RAF Regiment Para selection.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKRtNyg4Yp0


    Tell me, if RAF Regiment Paras do the same selection course to be a Para as the Parachute Regiment, why they are not equal ?



    You guys should not believe everything written on the BA craphat forum, arrse. Alot of the posters on there are simply projecting their own failure and futility, their lives wasted as craphats.


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    pablomakaveli
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    cruasder777 wrote: »
    Fitness standards the same as the Paras and RAF Paras do the same version of P coy run by the RAF.

    RAF Regiment Para selection.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKRtNyg4Yp0


    Tell me, if RAF Regiment Paras do the same selection course to be a Para as the Parachute Regiment, why they are not equal ?

    Here's a little tid bit for you: EVERYONE who does p company has to pass the same standards. And anyone can go for it. Whether your REME, RLC etc

    It's not just limited to the RAF and the Parachute Regiment.

    And here's another bit of information for youonly a small few in the RAF regiment does p company. The actual fitness standards are the same as the Army 10:30 mile and a half as well as push ups and sit-ups. That information is on the RAFs own website.

    And the idea of a RAF para guy telling a guy from the para regiment that they're equals is a funny one. You clearly aren't in the British armed forces if you don't know why that is.


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    Lemming
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    cruasder777 wrote: »
    Tell me, if RAF Regiment Paras do the same selection course to be a Para as the Parachute Regiment, why they are not equal ?

    As I am sure you are no doubt aware, anyone who wants to become parachute qualified in the BA has to go through P coy (sf not withstanding).
    You guys should not believe everything written on the BA craphat forum, arrse. Alot of the posters on there are simply projecting their own failure and futility, their lives wasted as craphats.

    You do realise in using that term, you are insulting anyone who has not earned a maroon lid. Have you earned the right to use that term? Have you successfully earned the right to a maroon lid?


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    John Mongo
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    So RAF Regiments are like the Para's and Royal Marine's, they seem pretty Tier 2.

    Then ya have the RIR, who are totes Tier 3.


    So many tiers, so little time...


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    John Mongo
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    Can't believe a Youtube link of a show put together by the History Channel was used to prove a point either.

    That's gotta be a first for this forum?


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    cruasder777
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    Lemming wrote: »
    As I am sure you are no doubt aware, anyone who wants to become parachute qualified in the BA has to go through P coy (sf not withstanding).



    You do realise in using that term, you are insulting anyone who has not earned a maroon lid. Have you earned the right to use that term? Have you successfully earned the right to a maroon lid?

    Yes.


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    cruasder777
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    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    Here's a little tid bit for you: EVERYONE who does p company has to pass the same standards. And anyone can go for it. Whether your REME, RLC etc

    It's not just limited to the RAF and the Parachute Regiment.

    And here's another bit of information for youonly a small few in the RAF regiment does p company. The actual fitness standards are the same as the Army 10:30 mile and a half as well as push ups and sit-ups. That information is on the RAFs own website.

    And the idea of a RAF para guy telling a guy from the para regiment that they're equals is a funny one. You clearly aren't in the British armed forces if you don't know why that is.


    The RAF do their own in house version of P coy, its also run for 21/23 SAS.

    Its recently changed, it was previously 9.45.


    The army infantry test is 11.30.


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    pablomakaveli
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    cruasder777 wrote: »
    The RAF do their own in house version of P coy, its also run for 21/23 SAS.

    Its recently changed, it was previously 9.45.


    The army infantry test is 11.30.

    No it's 10:30. If i have to pass in 10:30 you can be damn sure the infantry regiments do as well.

    And i seriously doubt your even in the armed forces let alone completing p-company.


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    cruasder777
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    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    No it's 10:30. If i have to pass in 10:30 you can be damn sure the infantry regiments do as well.

    And i seriously doubt your even in the armed forces let alone completing p-company.

    Shocking, its now actually 12.45 for army infantry.


    Parachute Regiment - Run Time 09.40
    Parachute Regiment (Junior) – Run Time 10.00
    Parachute Regiment (TA) – Run Time 10.30

    Infantry – Run Time 12.45


    http://armyfitnesstest.co.uk/training-guide/soldier-fitness-tests/


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    Lemming
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    cruasder777 wrote: »
    Yes.

    Yes what?

    Yes, You are aware that anyone wishing to become parachute certified is required to pass P Coy?

    or yes, you have successfully earned the right to wear a maroon lid?


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    cruasder777
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    Lemming wrote: »
    Yes what?

    Yes, You are aware that anyone wishing to become parachute certified is required to pass P Coy?

    or yes, you have successfully earned the right to wear a maroon lid?



    Both.


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    pablomakaveli
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    cruasder777 wrote: »
    Shocking, its now actually 12.45 for army infantry.


    Parachute Regiment - Run Time 09.40
    Parachute Regiment (Junior) – Run Time 10.00
    Parachute Regiment (TA) – Run Time 10.30

    Infantry – Run Time 12.45


    http://armyfitnesstest.co.uk/training-guide/soldier-fitness-tests/

    Try telling that to the PTIs. It says the Royal Artillery has to run in over 13:15. I can tell you now its under 10:30 or fail for all the artillery regiments bar 29 and 7 who have to run it in under 9:30 being specialist regiments. If the artillery have to come in under 10:30 then you can be sure the infantry are as well.

    Also i'd love to know how you earned your maroon lid. Probably bought one over the internet ill bet.


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    cruasder777
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    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    Try telling that to the PTIs. It says the Royal Artillery has to run in over 13:15. I can tell you now its under 10:30 or fail for all the artillery regiments bar 29 and 7 who have to run it in under 9:30 being specialist regiments. If the artillery have to come in under 10:30 then you can be sure the infantry are as well.

    Also i'd love to know how you earned your maroon lid. Probably bought one over the internet ill bet.

    You dont know what you are talking about.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9823312/Army-has-dropped-fitness-standards-to-allow-more-women-to-join.html


    Army 'has dropped fitness standards to allow more women to join'
    Fitness standards for British Army recruits including men have been reduced so that more women can join and equality targets can be met, it has been claimed.


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