“Anti-male” activist faces court in UK

Links234 · 06-10-2015 10:20pm

buried wrote: »

You all know who I mean

The tool who said something about sending the navy out and shooting the Syrian refugees? Yeah, I know who you mean, won't say her name incase it accidentally summons her like Candyman or something.

darkpagandeath · 06-10-2015 10:25pm

Clandestine wrote: »

Before you feel too sorry for her:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQiwpvPWwAEHsnx.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQiwqlXWEAAXWch.jpg

But should she go to prison? No

Ha, So not exactly a none violent person. Uses a lot of ahem language that could incite followers. Made her own bed by the looks of it now.

um7y1h83ge06nx · 06-10-2015 10:28pm

Clandestine wrote: »

Before you feel too sorry for her:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQiwpvPWwAEHsnx.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQiwqlXWEAAXWch.jpg

But should she go to prison? No

Comes across as a bit of a scumbag there alright.

Very Bored · 06-10-2015 10:29pm

Clandestine wrote: »

Before you feel too sorry for her:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQiwpvPWwAEHsnx.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQiwqlXWEAAXWch.jpg

But should she go to prison? No

Sounds more like she needs a psychiatrist than a prison sentence.

Links234 · 06-10-2015 10:30pm

I'm gonna duck out of this, so I'll just leave you guys with this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5WrWncDZw

Trigger Warning: Don't worry, Frank hasn't literally advocated killing your neighbors, phoning in a bomb threat to get out of class, or anything else...

DEFTLEFTHAND · 06-10-2015 10:30pm

She sounds like she has psychiatric problems tbh. Perhaps some kind of narcissistic disorder?

DeadHand · 06-10-2015 10:31pm

Very Bored wrote: »

Its not the point though. She's a buffoon, true, but she could well be a dangerous buffoon. If she was to attack (or worse) one single white man and the courts hadn't done anything then everybody would be asking why.

Let's be realistic here, she isn't going to be attacking anyone nor are her witterings going to inspire any actual violence. I'd file her more under "annoying idiot" than "dangerous demagogue". She's a harmless, cloistered fool with a small following of harmless, cloistered fools.

Jailing her would be excessive and unnecessary. Expulsion seems about right for her appalling behaviour.

smoking_kills · 06-10-2015 10:31pm

Amirani wrote: »

Freedom of speech doesn't extend to incitement to hatred.

Yes it does.

Do you really not see the Irony in you're statement?

darkpagandeath · 06-10-2015 10:32pm

smoking_kills wrote: »

Yes it does.

Do you really not see the Irony in you're statement?

The UK does not have Protected free speech try again.

Very Bored · 06-10-2015 10:34pm

DeadHand wrote: »

Let's be realistic here, she isn't going to be attacking anyone nor are her witterings going to inspire any actual violence. I'd file her more under "annoying idiot" than "dangerous demagogue". She's a harmless, cloistered fool with a small following of harmless, cloistered fools.

Jailing her would be excessive and unnecessary. Expulsion seems about right for her appalling behaviour.

I'm not saying send her to prison but the authorities should be watching her. Every violent criminal is a harmless, cloistered fool until they do something.

suicide_circus · 06-10-2015 10:35pm

Links234 wrote: »

I'm gonna duck out of this, so I'll just leave you guys with this.

Bit late, damage done

smoking_kills · 06-10-2015 10:35pm

darkpagandeath wrote: »

The UK does not have Protected free speech try again.

I know, and they should! Whatever she said she should not go to jail.

Links234 · 06-10-2015 10:36pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Bit late, damage done

You're right, I could've spent this time gaming.

Icemancometh · 06-10-2015 10:37pm

Britain's laws regarding social media are ridiculous and I'm glad we don't have them here. There must hundreds if not thousands of violations of this on twitter in the UK everyday, and this allows the police to selectively enforce the rules on certain targets only. Previously it seems to have been people trolling rape victims, or other unfortunates, or at least that's what I've seen reported. But you can't demand rules on others' speech and then be surprised when it comes back to bite you.

darkpagandeath · 06-10-2015 10:39pm

smoking_kills wrote: »

I know, and they should! Whatever she said she should not go to jail.

Who wants her to go to jail ? Seems here previous twitter rants have come back to haunt her and this complaint was taken seriously off the back of stupid comments previously. Seems fairly cut and dry. Big fine smack on the wrists soon sort our people like this that seem to think they can spout nonsense. Especially having a job like she did.

I await her supporters now dropping out on the backs of her coming off as a scumbag judging by her previous comments and alike.

Very Bored · 06-10-2015 10:40pm

smoking_kills wrote: »

I know, and they should! Whatever she said she should not go to jail.

But the initial question was not whether or not she should go to jail, it was whether she should be summonsed to court. The court has numerous ways of dealing with any offence should she be proven guilty of anything in the first place.

smoking_kills · 06-10-2015 10:40pm

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Who wants her to go to jail ? Seems here previous twitter rants have come back to haunt her and this complaint was taken seriously off the back of stupid comments previously. Seems fairly cut and dry. Big fine smack on the wrists soon sort our people like this that seem to think they can spout nonsense. Especially having a job like she did.

I await her supporters now dropping out on the backs of her coming off as a scumbag judging by her previous comments and alike.

She will blame the patriarchy! No doubt :eek:

cantdecide · 06-10-2015 10:42pm

She should be issued an ASBO in my opinion. It's a minor slap on the wrist for being a douche

06-10-2015 10:46pm

Clandestine wrote: »

Before you feel too sorry for her:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQiwpvPWwAEHsnx.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQiwqlXWEAAXWch.jpg

But should she go to prison? No

Threatening/supporting violence toward Tories is a much more credible threat than #KillAllWhiteMen, that's the one police should speak to her about tbh!

She's clearly mental* and should never have been allowed keep her role as a Student Union officer but her being a dickhead isn't really grounds for bringing her to court. Maybe there's more to the story than just #KillAllWhiteMen because I find it hard to reconcile a satirical hashtag with being genuine hate speech and incitement to racism.

*oops, please forgive my ableism, I'm off to check my privilege

osarusan · 06-10-2015 10:51pm

DeadHand wrote: »

Having said that, her university needs to act. There is absolutely no way she should be allowed to continue as a welfare and diversity officer with an insane attitude like that no matter how irrelevant the position. There are grounds for expulsion here.

There has been a thread about her before.

The university can't do anything about her position in the union as it is independently run. There was a petition about removing her as diversity officer, but it didn't get enough signatures to actually trigger a vote.

I'm not sure about expulsion as a student though.

Old Jakey · 06-10-2015 10:52pm

She looks pretty white to me...anyway I hope she gets sent down, will wipe that smug look off her face.

Very Bored · 06-10-2015 10:52pm

cantdecide wrote: »

She should be issued an ASBO in my opinion. It's a minor slap on the wrist for being a douche

Thought they were only for kids?

Also, they're a badge of honour in some parts.

RDM_83 again · 06-10-2015 10:59pm

Icemancometh wrote: »

Britain's laws regarding social media are ridiculous and I'm glad we don't have them here. There must hundreds if not thousands of violations of this on twitter in the UK everyday, and this allows the police to selectively enforce the rules on certain targets only. Previously it seems to have been people trolling rape victims, or other unfortunates, or at least that's what I've seen reported. But you can't demand rules on others' speech and then be surprised when it comes back to bite you.

this +100
You can't support these types of law as some of the posters that are arguing against it do but rejecting them as soon as soon as its applied to a group that they consider "privileged" stinks of double standards.

adamshare01 · 06-10-2015 11:03pm

Well, if you publish a statement like that, it's more than reasonable for the police and judiciary to dig around to see whether or not you're serious, and that may mean a day in court.

06-10-2015 11:06pm

She should relax, maybe do a spot of baking or ironing.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 06-10-2015 11:11pm

strelok wrote: »

she's a ****ing see you next friday but she shouldn't face any criminal charges over it, kill all men is just a way for feminists to let their hair down and tell the world what they really think, it's very rarely an actual call to arms.

A synf? Or maybe a cunf? I think you got it wrong dude.

06-10-2015 11:12pm

Icemancometh wrote: »

Britain's laws regarding social media are ridiculous and I'm glad we don't have them here. There must hundreds if not thousands of violations of this on twitter in the UK everyday, and this allows the police to selectively enforce the rules on certain targets only. Previously it seems to have been people trolling rape victims, or other unfortunates, or at least that's what I've seen reported. But you can't demand rules on others' speech and then be surprised when it comes back to bite you.

I'd be less concerned about those who use social media to target one person, like the trolling rape victims stuff. But such any empty, pointless threat like "kill all left handers/brunettes/white men"...I just it doesn't convey any immediate threat, more hysteria. A court appearance is a waste of time and effort and will give her campaign an airing it doesn't deserve.

Sand · 06-10-2015 11:12pm

Links234 wrote: »

You're right, I could've spent this time gaming.

I'd presume your gaming choices are very limited given the inherent white male bigotry and racism that frames much of modern game design.

One eyed Jack · 06-10-2015 11:15pm

Two minds about it tbh. On the one hand, I hate to see anything which would fuel her persecution complex, she's enough of a martyr as it is.

On the other hand, I'd like to see her being made an example of to others so that they begin to realise that their words do actually have an effect on other people, and what one person may construe as the inoffensive and inane ramblings of a tumblr warrior, or a person who gets their jollies from insulting other people or encouraging other people to insult other people...

Someone else who is the target of such communications may actually take them seriously. We can tell them to get some perspective, but the more hateful crap I'm seeing posted online, I'm beginning to wonder - who really needs to get some perspective here, and why should anyone find this behaviour and these attitudes acceptable, and why should it be allowed to continue?

Make an example of them until people start getting the message that it's really not acceptable to attempt to humiliate and denigrate other people online.

"Don't be a dick" has never gone out of style, even though it may not be all that fashionable nowadays.

Icemancometh · 06-10-2015 11:18pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd be less concerned about those who use social media to target one person, like the trolling rape victims stuff. But such any empty, pointless threat like "kill all left handers/brunettes/white men"...I just it doesn't convey any immediate threat, more hysteria. A court appearance is a waste of time and effort and will give her campaign an airing it doesn't deserve.

I'm more concerned about the ability to charge people for what they say on social media. By all means have it is a civil offence, but a criminal offence is way too much. And as I said earlier, it gives the police pretext to go after certain targets only. There must be thousands of people they're choosing not to prosecute, whether that's hateful bigots like this woman, or trolls who get their kicks going after the vulnerable.

“Anti-male” activist faces court in UK

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