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Rogue cyclists set to face on-the-spot fines MOD WARNING in first post

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Qualitymark


    buffalo wrote: »
    I passed an unoccupied Garda car parked on the double yellow lines opposite the Criminal Courts last night. The driver was inside the nearby chipper. I presume eating is part of their duties?

    To be fair, if one left the car and walked 100 metres to the chipper, and then there was an urgent call-out, it wouldn't be acceptable either. If you or I were the one being mugged we wouldn't want to hear "I had to pick up my partner in the chipper at the other end of the one-way street first" either!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    Tenzor07 wrote: »

    I taper off this route on occasion to work, and if it's congested I'll get off (as per sign) but generally if there's a free path I'll cycle through (perfectly reasonable imo) but if I do encounter a pedestrian I slow to somewhere about snail's pace and pass. I don't think there is a law yet about cycling on a pavement per se. Only one that prohibits cycling on a pavement in an obnoxious, speedy manner. Which is probably fair enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭HivemindXX


    I taper off this route on occasion to work, and if it's congested I'll get off (as per sign) but generally if there's a free path I'll cycle through (perfectly reasonable imo) but if I do encounter a pedestrian I slow to somewhere about snail's pace and pass. I don't think there is a law yet about cycling on a pavement per se. Only one that prohibits cycling on a pavement in an obnoxious, speedy manner. Which is probably fair enough.

    This is right outside my previous employment. The road is closed because of construction work on the offices on one side. For some reason the builders were able to close the entire road when they could probably have left a gap between their barriers and the path to allow cyclists to pass. Since there is no access for cars past this point they probably didn't feel the need since it would just be cyclists being inconvenienced.

    The path actually is quite narrow due to street furniture at points and it is very busy with pedestrians during the prime commuting hours. I walked my bike along it. I did see an impatient motorcyclist who waited for a while, then realising the flow of pedestrians wasn't going to let up just revved the engine and headed down anyway forcing people out of his way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Tenzor07 wrote: »

    I go through there twice a day, if they were fining for that they could stand at the end there and rake in thousands per hour. I'd say about 1 cyclist in 5 actually dismounts.

    In fairness, you take up much more space if you dismount and the path is very narrow, so it's actually more considerate to slow to a crawl and stay on the bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    I taper off this route on occasion to work, and if it's congested I'll get off (as per sign) but generally if there's a free path I'll cycle through (perfectly reasonable imo) but if I do encounter a pedestrian I slow to somewhere about snail's pace and pass. I don't think there is a law yet about cycling on a pavement per se. Only one that prohibits cycling on a pavement in an obnoxious, speedy manner. Which is probably fair enough.

    There is a law about cycling on a pavement. A person can be prosecuted for this by summons only.
    There is no FPN for this offence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭Lusk_Doyle


    Eamonnator wrote: »
    There is a law about cycling on a pavement. A person can be prosecuted for this by summons only.
    There is no FPN for this offence.

    And an advisory notice from a construction company can't have any basis in law with regards to suggesting what people do can it? It's more there to cover their bums from a health and safety perspective were someone to have an accident.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Lusk_Doyle wrote: »
    And an advisory notice from a construction company can't have any basis in law with regards to suggesting what people do can it? It's more there to cover their bums from a health and safety perspective were someone to have an accident.

    More likely a requirement as part of their road closure order. It's a 10 second walk when you dismount. Even when the road is open you get cyclists on the footpad.

    It is nice that the radio cars that are normally illegally parked and obstructing traffic can't for a few days. Once asked the campers why they don't clamp them and they said they are one of the few companies with a window watcher who is quick enough to get out to the cars when they drive in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭colossus-x


    Tony EH wrote: »
    I'm not talking about people flying down footpaths bashing into people.

    My response was to:



    At times hopping onto the footpath is safer for the cyclist and is a far better scenario than risking being struck by some gobshite in a car that doesn't give a fuk.

    I've been cycling the streets of Dublin for decades and there have been numerous occasions where I've had to hop up onto a footpath.

    Yes exactly. I don't do it to be nice to the driver although I'll take the car beep, I do it to feel safer. Hate that sudden roar of engines revving when taking off at the green light ( on narrower roads).
    7600km in the last year and a half through Dublin city centre, no trouble, never had to jump onto a path. Must be luck I guess...

    That's because you've a racer. I'm a leisure cyclist. If I could get up speed like your can I'd never feel the need to get up on the footpath and let the traffic pass. Your not holding anyone up like I am !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    In fairness, you take up much more space if you dismount and the path is very narrow, so it's actually more considerate to slow to a crawl and stay on the bike.

    There's a lane beside Blackrock Dart station, huge bike traffic due to it being part of the whole "Dublin Bay cycle route" that has signs insisting cyclists must "dismount", when in fact doing so would literally make the lane impassible for anyone coming from the opposite direction, cyclist or pedestrian


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    buffalo wrote: »
    I passed an unoccupied Garda car parked on the double yellow lines opposite the Criminal Courts last night. The driver was inside the nearby chipper. I presume eating is part of their duties?
    check_six wrote: »
    Having said that, I did nearly get run over by a guard in a car on the way to the Spar who ran a red and swung across my path. Didn't think that was too smart!

    I might be accused of being over-generous, but it is possible that the Gardai at the Spar or the chipper were indeed in performance of their duties, buying food for prisoners detained at their station.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭dreamerb


    colossus-x wrote: »
    That's because you've a racer. I'm a leisure cyclist. If I could get up speed like your can I'd never feel the need to get up on the footpath and let the traffic pass. Your not holding anyone up like I am !
    I'm a commuter cyclist, almost exclusively. I have never felt the need to get up on the footpath on my commute and I resent most cyclists on footpaths*, including the sods who footpath-hop to skip traffic queues or lights. My broad (and slightly) flexible guideline is that cyclists over 8 and under 80 should not be on the footpath for minor roads. For main / heavy traffic roads, I'll go to about 14 ad 70.

    If you're on a bike, you *are* traffic There are very few occasions where you'll hold up *other* traffic by more than a few seconds - and if you feel the need, you can usually find a place to pull in that doesn't involve footpath cycling.

    *on the other hand, I'd generally prefer that cyclists who've had a drink too many, or are cycling after dark with no lights, cycle on footpaths so long as they do so cautiously and affording absolute priority to pedestrians. Provided they also use the same caution as a pedestrian should at any road crossing point, too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Qualitymark


    CramCycle wrote: »
    More likely a requirement as part of their road closure order. It's a 10 second walk when you dismount. Even when the road is open you get cyclists on the footpad.

    It is nice that the radio cars that are normally illegally parked and obstructing traffic can't for a few days. Once asked the campers why they don't clamp them and they said they are one of the few companies with a window watcher who is quick enough to get out to the cars when they drive in.

    Time for FPNs for parking illegally in cycle lanes and on footpaths? A few of the clampers on bicycles, with cameras that can go snap, snap, snap at all the cars and their number plates, and tickets tucked into the wipers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭kazamo


    dreamerb wrote: »
    *on the other hand, I'd generally prefer that cyclists who've had a drink too many, or are cycling after dark with no lights, cycle on footpaths so long as they do so cautiously and affording absolute priority to pedestrians. Provided they also use the same caution as a pedestrian should at any road crossing point, too.

    Cyclists who have had a drink too many shouldn't be cycling. Transferring them to the footpath doesn't make them any less of a hazard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭dreamerb


    kazamo wrote: »
    Cyclists who have had a drink too many shouldn't be cycling. Transferring them to the footpath doesn't make them any less of a hazard.
    Oh, I'm not arguing in favour of drunk cycling at all, any more than I'm arguing for night-cycling without lights. I should probably have qualified that with a whole lot of criteria about "If someone's going to cycle when they shouldn't anyway", and I'm certainly not referring to cycling when very drunk etc. I once saw someone plough into the back of a taxi on O'Connell Bridge - he was so drunk he couldn't stand when he got up. Pavement cycling would have been as awful a choice by him.

    On the other hand, I disagree (slightly) on one aspect - transferring someone whose reaction times are a bit slower but is well able to cycle predictably off the road probably mitigates risk of making a misjudgement in moving traffic. I'm also talking about slow and cautious cycling such as not to cause a hazard or inconvenience to any pedestrians around, and only, in any case, when footpaths are very quiet. So, for example, I never see Camden Street so deserted I'd excuse it, but I wouldn't be too bothered about parts of Harold's Cross Road.

    FWIW, I don't do it, I'm not actively advocating it, I just think it may be a less-worse option in some circumstances. If you disagree, I accept that's a perfectly reasonable position. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    One thing I'll say about that stretch of road is that I'd love to find the genius who decided designating a cobble locked street as part of a cycle route (supposedly it's a part of the Grand Canal track) and find out what they were smoking that day.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    P_1 wrote: »
    One thing I'll say about that stretch of road is that I'd love to find the genius who decided designating a cobble locked street as part of a cycle route (supposedly it's a part of the Grand Canal track) and find out what they were smoking that day.

    It was closed of to facilitate motor traffic flow and make it more predictable, putting up a blue bike sign was an afterthought as there is only that spot under the bridge designated as bikes only. The rest used to be a rat run and that's all the bike signs are there for. The bike lanes at the canal end should show you what little thought went in to pedestrian or cyclist safety.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,510 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    P_1 wrote: »
    I'd love to find the genius who decided designating a cobble locked street as part of a cycle route
    it's for commuters who like a bit of paris-roubaix on their way to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    it's for commuters who like a bit of paris-roubaix on their way to work.

    The resurfaced bit after the cobbles heading for Pearse St is great.

    You go CobbleCobbleCobbleCobbleCobbleCobble-Whoosh! As you accelerate onto the smooth tarmac. Good stuff!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,945 ✭✭✭Bigus


    It's like the two nuns in the Vatican on the bikes when younger one says to the older nun
    " I never came this way before"

    and the other one relies

    " oh that'll be the cobbles sister"

    :D:D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭kazamo


    dreamerb wrote: »
    On the other hand, I disagree (slightly) on one aspect - transferring someone whose reaction times are a bit slower but is well able to cycle predictably off the road probably mitigates risk of making a misjudgement in moving traffic. I'm also talking about slow and cautious cycling such as not to cause a hazard or inconvenience to any pedestrians around, and only, in any case, when footpaths are very quiet. So, for example, I never see Camden Street so deserted I'd excuse it, but I wouldn't be too bothered about parts of Harold's Cross Road.

    FWIW, I don't do it, I'm not actively advocating it, I just think it may be a less-worse option in some circumstances. If you disagree, I accept that's a perfectly reasonable position. :)

    I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point :)
    The above has just too many caveats in it for me to see it as a realistic or safe option.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    My first day cycling in Dublin since the new rules were introduced.
    The first junction I came to in the city centre had 3 cyclists waiting at a red that the bulk of cyclists usually go through.
    I noticed at least 4 cyclists going the wrong way up one way streets though.
    One guy passed by two Gardai as well. They paid him no attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭jon1981


    mathie wrote: »
    I noticed at least 4 cyclists going the wrong way up one way streets though.

    This isn't a fine AFAIK
    A cyclist riding a pedal cycle without reasonable consideration.
    No front lamp or rear lamp lit during lighting-up hours.
    Cycling in pedestrianised street or area.
    A cyclist proceeding past traffic lights when the red lamp is illuminated.
    A cyclist proceeding past cycle traffic lights when red lamp is lit.
    A cyclist failing to stop for a School Warden sign.
    A cyclist going beyond a stop line, barrier or half barrier at a railway level crossing, swing bridge or lifting bridge, when the red lamps are flashing.

    Perhaps they were cycling with reasonable consideration


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Bloody, TdF, Lance Armstrong, Lycra Louts......:D

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/630718149470629888


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    The suggestion seems to be the cyclist was done for carrying a concealed weapon :D

    https://twitter.com/steolen/status/630719708677996544


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭JBokeh


    From the hand gestures it looks like he is explaining the leaflet to the Garda, which is probably the case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,121 ✭✭✭buffalo


    DMR South Traffic cautioned this cyclist and reminded them of new offences!

    What new offences?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    buffalo wrote: »
    What new offences?

    That account is so consistently bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭jon1981


    buffalo wrote: »
    What new offences?

    :D

    afb3157c3302ca506de45985880f6a9e_400x400.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    buffalo wrote: »
    What new offences?

    Non-matching kit
    Bidons not matching bike frame
    Unshaved legs
    etc
    etc
    etc


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭galwaycyclist


    buffalo wrote: »
    What new offences?

    Looks like they are keeping up the "new offences" line in responses to other twitter queries.

    Which suggests they are trying to deny that cycling on footpaths was ever an offence(as far as AGS were concerned)

    What a strange little "police force", I suppose in the world of big brother and Britain's got talent we're all supposed to lose any capacity for self embarrassment.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,351 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Jawgap wrote: »
    Unshaved legs
    Whoa!!

    FPNs for not shaving your legs??? Better make sure I carry plenty of cash with me:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭gaybeer


    Ha, thats me in the picture! The light was actually yellow I ran through. The Gardai were sound, it more of a laugh.

    Ps I hate matching gear!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Beasty wrote: »
    Whoa!!

    FPNs for not shaving your legs??? Better make sure I carry plenty of cash with me:mad:

    €40 for every mm of stubble :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,517 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Beasty wrote: »
    Whoa!!

    FPNs for not shaving your legs??? Better make sure I carry plenty of cash with me:mad:
    Stick it to "The Man" - wear tights all year round!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Qualitymark


    One for the cyclist-haters - funny!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,032 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Ireland could learn a lot from the Parisians!

    Sounds just like Dublin etc....!!
    Parisian drivers can be rude and aggressive behind the wheel. They sound their horns loudly and gratuitously. They stop willy-nilly on busy roads to run errands or do a bit of shopping
    Most aggravatingly, Parisians are appalling signallers. They turn without advance warning - or to add insult to injury, they start to indicate as they turn. That is like a V-sign to the cyclist. It shows the driver knows about the indicator, but could not care less what it is for.




    LINK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Ireland could learn a lot from the Parisians!

    Sounds just like Dublin etc....!!
    Parisian drivers can be rude and aggressive behind the wheel. They sound their horns loudly and gratuitously. They stop willy-nilly on busy roads to run errands or do a bit of shopping
    Most aggravatingly, Parisians are appalling signallers. They turn without advance warning - or to add insult to injury, they start to indicate as they turn. That is like a V-sign to the cyclist. It shows the driver knows about the indicator, but could not care less what it is for.

    LINK

    Waitaminute, you mean every car in Paris is a taxi?!?

    I've known the "turn-signal-don't bother looking" manoeuvre as a 'taxi-man turn' forever.

    It's almost as if they are saving the bulbs for a special occasion, or that they have removed the 'indicators' and inserted 'doers' which only light up when you are doing a turn and not a minute sooner. It's not like I can tell which way you are going by looking at your head movement either, because you don't look around anyway!

    I saw a new variation this morning. Taxi was waiting at lights ahead of me indicating *left*. I decided to hang back to see what would happen as it seemed suspicious to me. Sure enough, as soon as the lights turned, the taxi started turning *right*, then flicked over to the right indicator, and continued on his merry way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭00sully


    I cycle regularly and see this every day - really needs to be stopped!
    <snip>
    these 2 clowns break all the reds they encounter that I see them at, proceed to argue with a bus driver at a later stage (I am assuming he is in the right because of previous bad cycling then immediately afterward they make an illegal right turn over Samuel Becket bridge for which there is no right turn)

    bad juju.<snip>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    00sully wrote: »
    I cycle regularly and see this every day - really needs to be stopped!

    <snip>
    these 2 clowns break all the reds they encounter that I see them at, proceed to argue with a bus driver at a later stage (I am assuming he is in the right because of previous bad cycling then immediately afterward they make an illegal right turn over Samuel Becket bridge for which there is no right turn)

    bad juju.<snip>

    Ah it could be worse, they could've cycled on the hatched area ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    00sully wrote: »
    ...then immediately afterward they make an illegal right turn over Samuel Becket bridge for which there is no right turn)....
    AFAIK there are only three ways to travel onto and " over Samuel Beckett bridge" - two of which are right turns:
    • heading East on Custom House Quay - turn right
    • heading West on Sir John Rodgersons Quay - turn right
    The third is continue straight South from Guild Street.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Has anyone a link to the wording about red bike lights?
    Any I've seen are at the far side of a junction, with no stop line this side of the junction, so, if they are like normal traffic lights I can just cycle off the cycle lane onto the road and go.

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.4283474,-6.2303701,3a,75y,129.51h,86.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfsDy0scy85Y-wFa4ZRNGJg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.317128,-6.3318637,3a,75y,109.98h,80.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sk51grYhPcZYCj4j9QDtRuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭00sully


    GrumpyMe wrote: »
    AFAIK there are only three ways to travel onto and " over Samuel Beckett bridge" - two of which are right turns:
    • heading East on Custom House Quay - turn right
    • heading West on Sir John Rodgersons Quay - turn right
    The third is continue straight South from Guild Street.

    apologies, it was the Talbot Memorial Bridge at custom house quay which is an illegal right, Samuel Becket is where they should have went to :o

    or alternatively dismounted at Sean O'Casey Bridge but no cyclist every does that despite the clear signage - quite dangerous there actually.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    I have been to several presentations by behavioural psychologists / behavioural economists in past few years where the presenters have all claimed that Irish people conform to a trait of high degrees of abiding to the law.
    Hence the success of the smoking ban, high compliance with tax payment etc.
    This morning I noticed that at several junctions that hoards (maybe 20) cyclists waiting patiently at the red lights. Not one cyclist broke the light even though there was ample opportunity.

    Honestly have not encountered this level of compliance by cyclists previously. I am going to make an effort to monitor this.
    I wonder are FPNs already changing the behaviour of cyclists.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    ROK ON wrote: »
    I have been to several presentations by behavioural psychologists / behavioural economists in past few years where the presenters have all claimed that Irish people conform to a trait of high degrees of abiding to the law.
    Hence the success of the smoking ban, high compliance with tax payment etc.
    This morning I noticed that at several junctions that hoards (maybe 20) cyclists waiting patiently at the red lights. Not one cyclist broke the light even though there was ample opportunity.

    Honestly have not encountered this level of compliance by cyclists previously. I am going to make an effort to monitor this.
    I wonder are FPNs already changing the behaviour of cyclists.

    I think its more of a case of many Irish people obeying the law in instances where they are more likely to get caught. Cute Hoor syndrome if you will.

    For example, the speed camera vans. Apparently we have far lower levels of speeding than previously thought by analysts and the gardai, in fact , far lower than was implied before the speed vans came into effect.

    Somehow though, I still get overtaken while driving near or on the limit, regularly, in fact by about 85% of cars that come into view but on roads where there is a speed van, I tend to just have a trail of cars behind me until we get past where the van is typically located at which point the dangerous overtaking starts.

    The last few days on the bike, the only change I have seen are a few more people stopping to look around, it appears to me that the people who stopped before, still stop, those who were cautious before are now super cautious (but not enough to not run the light) and those who didn't give a sh1t, still don't give a sh1t. To be fair, if it takes a bit of risk out of that middle group, then its not too bad.

    This said, statistically, there was little risk there in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,778 ✭✭✭cython


    The clown that flew through the red light from the Phoenix Park on to Coyningham Road between another cyclist and myself would beg to differ, as would the Dublin Bike moron who pulled out onto the quays in front of me while the light was green still for me and all the other traffic coming behind/alongside me. I can't say I've noticed any significant improvement, to be honest, still plenty of people breaking the aforementioned red exiting the Park (despite being beside the courts, ironically), as well as the pedestrian lights through College Green and onto Nassau Street.

    As mentioned some people might be a little more cautious, but having them more alert to the presence of Gardai, as opposed to just cycling with cop on is hardly the reasoning behind FCN regime either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭Plastik


    I met the same red light jumper on my commute in and out of D1 from Bray today. Completely idiotic stuff. I must have ended up passing him 15 times. The sooner someone like him gets pinged the better. Did a strava flyby and there he is lauding his quick commute times as being due to "less traffic". The mind boggles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 arse_jackeen


    I cycle daily from D16 to D1 and I would estimate between 40 and 60% of cyclists are still breaking the lights. Some of the light breaking is dangerous to other road users (never mind the cyclist themselves) or it increases the risk of causing an accident.
    I have not seen any Gardai enforce the new rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Some of the light breaking is dangerous to other road users (never mind the cyclist themselves) or it increases the risk of causing an accident.
    I have not seen any Gardai enforce the new rules.

    Would you estimate the percentage that is a) dangerous to other road users
    b) increases the risk of an accident


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭HivemindXX


    CramCycle wrote: »
    More likely a requirement as part of their road closure order. It's a 10 second walk when you dismount. Even when the road is open you get cyclists on the footpad.

    It is nice that the radio cars that are normally illegally parked and obstructing traffic can't for a few days. Once asked the campers why they don't clamp them and they said they are one of the few companies with a window watcher who is quick enough to get out to the cars when they drive in.

    Very pleasantly surprised to see that the builders barriers had been moved in to allow enough space on the road for cyclists (and maybe more relevantly, motorcyclists). Of course the other end had a quite puzzling "Cyclists Dismount" sign next to it but perhaps this is just a general statement akin to "Get off the road" shouted out a car window.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 arse_jackeen


    Would you estimate the percentage that is a) dangerous to other road users
    b) increases the risk of an accident

    I don't want to quote percentages, maybe I can give examples of what I mean:

    a) dangerous to other road users
    Where cyclists break the lights, I've seen multiple examples of near miss collisions with pedestrians or other cyclists (travelling in other direction)

    b) increases the risk of an accident
    I've also seen motorists having to take corrective action to avoid hitting cyclists breaking the lights. This can lead to another road user having to take evasive action and thus increases the risk of an accident.

    Behaviour a) is definitely of the higher occurrence in my experience.


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