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UFC 189 -Chad Mendes v Conor McGregor

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    #692
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    EuskalHerria wrote: »
    Not sure if it's been mentioned, the embedded episode two,is hilarious. Chad tapping his temple saying "Conor won't get in my head". 2 minutes later he's visibly rattled during the conference call. Brilliant.

    It's kind of amazing really as McGregor isn't really saying that much but the other guys just can't handle him.


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    #693
    [Deleted User]
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    ah cool, something to watch when I get home. nice oneeeeee!:)


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    #694
    falinx
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭falinx


    mailburner wrote: »
    speaking of pickett, he's going to get murdered by a very hot prospect in almeida or get beat around the place similiar to how mac beat him before the ref stops it

    this is the one time I really fancy pendred and wont be losing money backing against him
    its time for john howard to get his p45 I think

    Good call on the almeida one... anything can happen in ufc but this not going the distance is sitting at 1.53 on betfair sportsbook... I'd say that's where the smart money should be heading.

    I hear you as well on the pendred one, howard just seems to be steamrolled on his last 3 so by all accounts the odds shouldn't be so high for pendred. You can still find odds on for both fighters though so something's not right. Got to find out more info on pendred's health before risking money...


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    #695
    [Deleted User]
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    did you ever see the video of picket struggling to make weight??? jesus he looks like a skeleton, unreal. actually shocking to see. I don't see how you could recover quickly from that physiological state without IV's to be honest. In this instance anyway.


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    #696
    glass half full
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    Can't wait for this fight. A lot of questions will be answered after the 11/7/15.

    I was watching Mendes v Lamas last night and was so impressed with the way Mendes cut of the cage and constantly pressured Lamas. Lamas was constantly on the back-foot.

    I feel if McGregor can ensure that he keeps Mendes at bay for the first round or two that he could pick Mendes apart gradually and ultimately finish with a TKO in the 4th.

    How do people see McGregor dealing with this pressure, if Mendes uses this as a tactic?


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    #697
    slicus ricus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭slicus ricus


    maximoose wrote:
    Fans, I don't think so. Blow-ins who come into threads for no other reason than to spout ****e about either McGregor or his opponent, more likely.
    John_D80 wrote: »
    To me, when you have guys in here talking sh1te, who have more posts in the pro wrestling forum than they do in the MMA forum, well that says it all really.

    I may post a lot in the Pro Wrestling Forum but I have been a fan of MMA for years (since about 2004). Fan of both but for entirely different reasons.

    Anyway, apologies for my contribution in derailing the thread.


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    #698
    Mellor
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    glass half full wrote: »
    How do people see McGregor dealing with this pressure, if Mendes uses this as a tactic?

    By controlling range.
    He's not going to back peddle endlessly. He'll aim to float zone where he's outside Mendes' range, but Mendes is within his. Chad can do nothing fro mout thre, shooting from out there is very tricky. Chad has to get inside to be effective


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    #699
    Ush1
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    glass half full wrote: »
    Can't wait for this fight. A lot of questions will be answered after the 11/7/15.

    I was watching Mendes v Lamas last night and was so impressed with the way Mendes cut of the cage and constantly pressured Lamas. Lamas was constantly on the back-foot.

    I feel if McGregor can ensure that he keeps Mendes at bay for the first round or two that he could pick Mendes apart gradually and ultimately finish with a TKO in the 4th.

    How do people see McGregor dealing with this pressure, if Mendes uses this as a tactic?

    Footwork and jabbing. He will likely be conservative with kicks unless finishing a combo.


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    #700
    John_D80
    Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    slicus ricus wrote: »
    I may post a lot in the Pro Wrestling Forum but I have been a fan of MMA for years (since about 2004). Fan of both but for entirely different reasons.

    Anyway, apologies for my contribution in derailing the thread.

    Actually wasn't referring to you at all mate. Sorry.

    Was referring more to the people spouting sh1te.


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    #701
    Ken Shamrock
    Registered Users Posts: 3,192 ✭✭✭Ken Shamrock


    slicus ricus wrote: »
    Yes, see below:

    I am sorry that my comment upset you but that was not the intention. Nor can I see why It would insult you, but fair enough. When you make a statement and cannot back It up you usually get called out on It.

    slicus ricus wrote: »
    Well, that was my response, take it or leave it. I felt it addressed what we were discussing.

    Well I don't have much choice but to take It, i felt we could have had a quite a good discussion but we shall leave It there so.


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    #702
    JoeyJJ
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    Yeah Conor to pick him off keeping him at range, and reassess as Chad gets desperate and changes his game plan. If Chad has to rush him he might regret it and eat a hook.

    The first sprawl will be interesting assuming it happens of course.


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    #703
    Ken Shamrock
    Registered Users Posts: 3,192 ✭✭✭Ken Shamrock


    John_D80 wrote: »
    Actually wasn't referring to you at all mate. Sorry.

    Was referring more to the people spouting sh1te.

    Is this referring to me out of interest? :D


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    #704
    foleypio
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 138 ✭✭foleypio


    Bob.Carcass wrote: »
    Is this referring to me out of interest? :D

    he should be referring to himself to be honest, going in checking what forum's people are posting on to try and strengthen his argument, then making out he wasn't talking about them at all. the lad doesnt know what he's on about


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    #705
    slicus ricus
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    I think this fight is all about McGregor's control of range. If he can land clean shots without allowing Mendes to get into take down range, he is onto a winner.

    If Mendes does get into range for take downs, which you would have to think he will unless Conor ends this quickly, McGregor will need to be quick and effective with his sprawl. I would imagine he will try to land punches from the sprawl as part of his take down defence.


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    #706
    Ireland888
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    Here's my take:

    Initially thought it was terrible news to face chad on short notice but now that I know he brought his wrestling coach and has been advancing his grappling game instead of focusing on MT style it's not a big deal. Plus I think he's been thinking if Jose did fight that he'd go for a takedown so he's been practicing takedown defense, and preparing his bjj for what was a black belt and is now a white belt who hasn't had a submission since 2010.

    Striking: Conor (boxing pedigree with creative tkd style vs a novice striker with an uppercut and overhand)

    Kicks: Conor (loves progressing in this category and one can see evolution plus his long legs is big adv here vs fighter who rearly kicks and is not very skilled at it)

    On the mat: Conor (advanced brown vs advanced white)

    Wrestling: Chad (however the reach of Conor and his takedown defence can substantially negate this if he executes well and even if on top I think Conor's guard will surprise many and Chad won't do enough damage to end a fight in just 1 or 2 top control sequences)

    Physically: conor( in better shape, height adv, reach adv and I would argue a more coordinated and athletic individual)

    Main concern: chad fakes the takedown and goes for the uppercut like he's always done and essentially perfected (against Aldo and lamas) and Conor gets caught being concerned about the takedown and having his arms at his side. IF that happens I could see Chad with a KO.


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    #707
    Mellor
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    Ireland888 wrote: »
    Plus I think he's been thinking if Jose did fight that he'd go for a takedown so he's been practicing takedown defense, and preparing his bjj for what was a black belt and is now a white belt who hasn't had a submission since 2010.
    Calling Chad a "white belt" is retarded.
    His rank, or lack thereof, in BJJ means nothing in terms of his grappling ability


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    #708
    EuskalHerria
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    Davei141 wrote: »
    Must have been watching a completely different conference call to me? "Visibly rattled" Mendes gave as good as he got and it was Conor with a big face on him after it ended.

    We must have been. Chad starts and ends with a smile, but in between he's all over the place. I accept these things are heavily edited, but it seems to be narrative they're trying to spin.

    1. He's laughing when Conor is talking about someone else (Aldo)

    2. Then attention turns to him, the fist goes up to his mouth. Conor starts on about Chad's numbers and then he looks agitated

    3. Chad responds to Conor talking about "Balls on his head" and being disrespectful. He seems rattled just in talking about this. (in my opinion. Should I have to say this?)

    4. It ends with Chad being asked what Conor was saying. With a forced smile he responds. "I don't know, I wasn't even listening". What a stupid response. He's just been replying to Conor. This for me shows he was flustered afterwards. It's either a stupid or flustered response, perhaps I'm being kind to Chad in suggesting the latter.

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    #709
    Ken Shamrock
    Registered Users Posts: 3,192 ✭✭✭Ken Shamrock


    So Chad Mendes is now a novice striker, has no skill at kicking is a white belt on the mat and can't do enough damage to end a fight. Amazing to think he's 17-2 with his only loses ever coming to the world no.1 featherweight. He must be cheating.


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    #710
    EuskalHerria
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    Here's a link to a post that will supposedely get you Setanta (And BT Sports) for a fiver. The fight in HD for €5, not a bad deal. (SKY Only).

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=96105841&postcount=1428


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    #711
    darced
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    #712
    Ireland888
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    Bob.Carcass wrote: »
    So Chad Mendes is now a novice striker, has no skill at kicking is a white belt on the mat and can't do enough damage to end a fight. Amazing to think he's 17-2 with his only loses ever coming to the world no.1 featherweight. He must be cheating.

    I love how you think you own this thread. What did I say that was wrong?
    If you ever watched his fight you'd know he's a novice striker, and doesn't kick I'm sorry these are facts that anyone who knows anything about the Ufc knows.

    17-2 in MMA doesn't mean much- you actually have to watch the fights not just look at records. Hence the reason why artem Lobov has been told to fight people in Europe, get to 500, and then he could join. Records are for amateurs like yourself who can't actually analyze skills AKA the bandwagon fans.


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    #713
    welchywelch
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 ✭welchywelch


    Post #708 I would probably pull all 4 of those facial expressions talking to my mother about the weather. This guy is an experienced, professional fighter, FFS he fought Aldo twice, I doubt very much he is scared or rattled by anyone.


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    #714
    Ken Shamrock
    Registered Users Posts: 3,192 ✭✭✭Ken Shamrock


    Ireland888 wrote: »
    I love how you think you own this thread. What did I say that was wrong?
    If you ever watched his fight you'd know he's a novice striker, and doesn't kick I'm sorry these are facts that anyone who knows anything about the Ufc knows.

    17-2 in MMA doesn't mean much- you actually have to watch the fights not just look at records. Hence the reason why artem Lobov has been told to fight people in Europe, get to 500, and then he could join. Records are for amateurs like yourself who can't actually analyze skills AKA the bandwagon fans.

    Yes, this is my thread. You're welcome.

    On what planet is Mendes a novice striker? To get back to stats, 50% of his wins have been by KO/TKO. So how It's a fact that he's a novice striker is truly beyond me. 17-2 in MMA doesn't mean much? news to me, go tell Conor that.

    I'm an amateur so you're referring to yourself as what? a pro? not a tad pretentious no? I'm far from a bandwagon fan, If that were the case I would be loved in here not hated. Sorry you got your knickers in a twist, It's really not that big of a deal.


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    #715
    Mr. Manager
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    Crann na Beatha
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    #717
    Ireland888
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    Mellor wrote: »
    Calling Chad a "white belt" is retarded.
    His rank, or lack thereof, in BJJ means nothing in terms of his grappling ability

    Chad is a white belt- it is a fact. Sorry if that offends you.


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    #718
    nerd69
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    Ireland888 wrote: »
    I love how you think you own this thread. What did I say that was wrong?
    If you ever watched his fight you'd know he's a novice striker, and doesn't kick I'm sorry these are facts that anyone who knows anything about the Ufc knows.

    17-2 in MMA doesn't mean much- you actually have to watch the fights not just look at records. Hence the reason why artem Lobov has been told to fight people in Europe, get to 500, and then he could join. Records are for amateurs like yourself who can't actually analyze skills AKA the bandwagon fans.

    the hell are you talking about mendez is the toughest fighter connors ever faced by a looooong shot he's a good striker just because he uses his fists over his legs does not negate that, he's a good enough wrestler that he will challenge mcgregor in a way that he has not been yet at this level and most of all he's about as tough a dude as there is he won't take a punch and retreat he will keep coming and coming and coming.

    also what the hell do you mean 17-2 doesn't mean much hes never lost a fight outside of jose aldo he's an outstanding fighter and your being a tad ignorant calling other people amateurs and then claiming that means nothing


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    #719
    nerd69
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    Ireland888 wrote: »
    Chad is a white belt- it is a fact. Sorry if that offends you.

    his point was that that has nothing to do with grappling your talking about ju jitsu its a different thing entirely. mark hunt does not kick so is he a terrible striker :rolleyes:


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    darced
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    #721
    Lukker-
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    Ireland888 wrote: »
    Chad is a white belt- it is a fact. Sorry if that offends you.

    It's kind of irrelevant when he doesn't train BJJ. He's the best wrestler in the division and probably has the best grappling too.


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