The Tipperary GAA (Club and intercounty) Discussion thread 2015

evolving tipperary wrote: »

I don't think it is completely OTT... - I don't Brian Hogan was beyond criticism.

Yeah, Padraig Walsh got slaughtered...all those scores...his marker got...all that damage... http://31.media.tumblr.com/5d24fdfda513e7a3b6c5047511a5c818/tumblr_mz1mlbaNDw1qcm0m3o1_500.gif
Padraig Walsh is 23 - I think he demonstrated fantastic ability last year. I would say he has the potential to be a phenomenal player - minus Tommy's indiscipline. Buckley is younger again and a fantastic talent.


Joyce has a number of ALl-Irelands - I don't see the weakness you see. He was fantastic in the reply last year - when it matters he delivers. They all do.

I don't see the issue with pace - with Hogan, or indiscipline with Tommy that was evident with those players. Who were amazing players - as good as it gets. But, I see the current line with the same potential... Being dismissive of Walsh and Joyce is something I can't see the reason to...

- if anyone wants to beat KK they must be able to break their midfield and half back-line. People go on about the full back position and Henry and JJ going... a mere side issue. Their gig was up...

Mick Fennelly, Fogarty, Buckley, Walsh, and Joyce run that show with running, precision passing, tenacious tackling, and never say die attitude - anyone who beats KK will have to break and run through those lines to get at the aging Tyrell and Holden. If you can stop Mick Fennelly running from midfield through the half-back line you would go along way to shoring up KK's most dangerous attacks... Hogan and reid continually receive balls from Fennelly from his runs as they tuck back into the pocket

Brian Hogan wasn't a flashy centre back but he was alot more affectrive than most, he was essientally the first sweeper in hurling and did a fantastic job protecting the FB line, Noel Hickey would not have been the player he was without Hogan in front of him, COM played a similar role for Tipp and like Hogan wasn't full appreciated until his star waned.

With regard to Tommy Walsh you hae more than once cited indiscipline as something to mark against him, can you tell me how many times the 9 time all star and 9 times All Ireland medal winner was sent off? His aggression was one of his biggest assets.

JJ Delaney is quite possibly the greatest defender of the last 30 years I dont think I even need to go into what made him that, the fact you didnt even mention him says it all.

You mentioned plenty of AI medals well the old trio have 24 Senior All Ireland medals and 17 All stars between them, the present incumbents, who have started a grand total of 2 matches together have a lot of ground to cover to get to that level. None of thaos ethree would have gotten within an asses roar of that old trio in their prime, Buckley is the only one that would have come anyway close and would still have had to settle for a cameo role.

As for your childish link re Padraig Walsh, it might have escaped your attention but Ian Byrne score 11 pts last sunday, 2 from play off Walsh and two other frees that came directly from fouls by Walsh on Byrne, Byrne is hardly a top level forward either. All these scores actually came when the game was somewhat competitive as well. Walter Walsh and Padraic Walsh were the two KK players that were actually beaten in their individual duals.

Spirit of 67 wrote: »

Hope he`s okay for Sunday week , and don`t have the same run of bad luck as his brother who is up there along side Steven and Colin as one of the best young Footballers in the Country !

I'm no medical expert but I have to say it doesnt look good, I was at the game and there was no contact from anyone else, he seemed to jar it in the ground, he received medical attention from our physio ( the bauld Paddy O'Brien) and attempted to play on, as soon as he put any pressure on it he collapsed into a heap again, certainly looked like some sort of ligament damage, but hopefully not.

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Nenagh won final yet haven't fielded in adult grades since but if Rosegreen had they def would have played intermediate which Nenagh haven't.

I'm well aware of the facts I just dont see what the disgrace is, Nenagh are not obliged to field a football team if the interest isn't there, as for Rosegreen if they were unable to beat a team who hadn't kicked a football in years then they had no business in the Intermediate grade.

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Nenagh haven't played since winning then is the issue and is the disgrace considering Rosegreen would almost certainly have went on and played at the higher level if theyd won..
Rosegreen didn't lose to a team that hadn't kicked a football In years... Nenagh have had sides playing junior A... virtually every year....

Nenagh have never held a single training session for adult football in 15 years, my own club won the Junior County final the year after Nenagh and we had to stop on the way to the County Semi Final to buy a football, football in north Tipp will never be anymore than a joke. We played an Intermediate North Final last year for the title for 2 years as noone was bothered playing it the year before the attendance at the North Final was 17!