LUXOBARGE (sub5k) of the week/day

Big Nasty · 01-08-2014 1:47pm

kupus wrote: »

no typo, 11,000 euro per year for high engined luxury and performance cars.

obv im going to check it out myself later on,

No way it's 11k pa dude.

There is an initial tax you pay when buying a car, new or used iirc, which is very hefty for big cars.

kupus · 01-08-2014 1:55pm

^^ from reading that, a new 3.5 l more than 155KW car is paying 5000 tax and it decreases year after year.

Maybe it was commercial tax that he was talking about?
I will know more in a few days.

porsche959 · 01-08-2014 7:22pm

kupus wrote: »

I was talking recently to a guy from Belgium, his dad owned a bmw 750, he himself owned an M5, but he crashed it, now he has a volvo v70,
Anyway we got talking about tax and higher engined cars in Belgium are about 11000euro per year to tax, and as far as i remember no discount tax for oldtimers either.
Looks like a lot of people there instead get their companies to buy and tax it and they can write it off.
in effect it stops a lot of ordinary joes from being able to afford a car like this, as they dont own their own company.

but 1800 tax per year to drive a BMW 745 or bigger, doesnt look so bad now.

I think Belgium is 1 of few countries in Europe with higher motor tax rates than Ireland...would be amazed if it's that high though.

Voodoomelon · 01-08-2014 7:42pm

bear1 wrote: »

Re the BMW, is it me or does the rear suspension look faulty? Seems a bit low.
I really don't think it's worth 4.3k though

Well spotted, there is an issue with the self levelling in the rear. He checked the pump and it's working, he seems to think it's got to do with the weight of the LPG tank, I wouldn't think so myself.

A quick diagnostic with DIS would have an answer in a few minutes.

Seweryn · 01-08-2014 7:56pm

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Well spotted, there is an issue with the self levelling in the rear. He checked the pump and it's working, he seems to think it's got to do with the weight of the LPG tank, I wouldn't think so myself.

A quick diagnostic with DIS would have an answer in a few minutes.

The whole idea of self levelling suspension is to accommodate for various loads, so the extra weight of the LPG tank should make no difference what so ever once the engine is running.
The issue can be with leaking pipe, not enough oil in the system, faulty switch-off valve, air in the hydraulic system, etc. The problem may only be when car is parked and the engine off. Still, should not be the case, but if it is, it would be half-bad story.

Voodoomelon · 01-08-2014 8:42pm

Yup, why I thought it had nothing to do with the LPG, somethings amiss with it.

Yawlboy · 02-08-2014 4:07pm

kupus wrote: »

no typo, 11,000 euro per year for high engined luxury and performance cars.

obv im going to check it out myself later on,

Maybe he meant that the Benefit In Kind is €11k as he bought it through a business?

Kaiser D · 02-08-2014 4:45pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/jaguar-xjs-4-0/7413404

Sporty barge

R1_Pete · 02-08-2014 4:50pm

Super thread : )
Not great for my attempts to save.. So many worth a look

ofcork · 03-08-2014 8:53pm

03 S Class for sale on gt cork for 3750,petrol but doesn't say engine size.

daveohdave · 03-08-2014 9:12pm

Nice rims.

Kaiser D · 03-08-2014 9:15pm

The amgs take from the look of the car tbh..

5uspect · 03-08-2014 9:16pm

Cartell to the rescue.
https://www.cartell.ie/ssl/servlet/beginStarLookup?registration=03C5509

Registration 03C5509
Make MERCEDES BENZ
Model S350
Description 350
Engine Capacity (cc) 3724

kupus · 04-08-2014 1:14am

ok, just going back to what i was talking about earlier, it was insurance that we were discussing, apparently. so, 11000 for insurance for bmw 750 and not tax, insurance is a write off for companies as well. we got lost in translation somewhere, and having strong belgian beer didnt help. im on it again tonight. fuc me this belgian beer stuff is is like mammys soup.

Sobanek · 04-08-2014 3:58am

Leffe Blonde?

Esel · 04-08-2014 4:24am

Left the blond where now? :eek:

:pac:

mullingar · 04-08-2014 9:34am

Belgian motor tax rates here:

http://www.belgium.be/fr/mobilite/vehicules/taxe_de_circulation_et_assurance/taxe_de_circulation/

Interesting that they must also pay a radio tax too.....

Kaiser D · 12-08-2014 6:30pm

Arise thread.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1979-jaguar-xjs-vintage-tax-nct-exempt/7471647

Vintage tax, test exempt and "ready to drive away" - probably get it fr €2k too :cool:

Trojan · 12-08-2014 7:10pm

Kaiser D wrote: »

Vintage tax, test exempt and "ready to drive away" - probably get it fr €2k too :cool:

Definitely Bangernomics territory!

daveohdave · 12-08-2014 7:16pm

You'd need deep pockets or brass balls to take on an XJS, they can be serious money pits.

Trojan · 12-08-2014 7:24pm

daveohdave wrote: »

You'd need deep pockets or brass balls to take on an XJS, they can be serious money pits.

And you need to pay for two parking spots every time.

CharlieCroker · 12-08-2014 7:30pm

Kaiser D wrote: »

Arise thread.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1979-jaguar-xjs-vintage-tax-nct-exempt/7471647
Vintage tax, test exempt and "ready to drive away" - probably get it fr €2k too :cool:

As much as I'd love it, I don't think I'd be brave enough. Could quite easily cost you that again in the first year.

As a weekender it could be ok if its decent but you might as well set fire to your wallet if its a bad one.

porsche959 · 12-08-2014 7:33pm

There's a good reason there aren't too many early XJS's still on the roads.

Kaiser D · 12-08-2014 7:39pm

daveohdave wrote: »

You'd need deep pockets or brass balls to take on an XJS, they can be serious money pits.

CharlieCroker wrote: »

As much as I'd love it, I don't think I'd be brave enough. Could quite easily cost you that again in the first year.

As a weekender it could be ok if its decent but you might as well set fire to your wallet if its a bad one.

porsche959 wrote: »

There's a good reason there aren't too many early XJS's still on the roads.

Thats why I haven't rang already

I don't "do" weekend drivers - its either an everyday driver or I don't buy it.

ba_barabus · 12-08-2014 7:44pm

Kaiser D wrote: »

Vintage tax, test exempt and "ready to drive away" - probably get it fr €2k too :cool:

That's too cheap for what it is. I reckon it's got rust issues, most probably around the rear strut tops.

quadrifoglio verde · 12-08-2014 8:09pm

porsche959 wrote: »

There's a good reason there aren't too many early XJS's still on the roads.

My way of looking at that is if its made it this far, its been loved somewhere along the way and hopefully in the last few years as opposed to the first few years. Its for that reason that id have no problem buying something like this, or a lancia beta for example, because the reason why they haven't been converted in bean cans was because they were looked after. I find this applies a lot with cars that had poor reliability issues at the start of their lives, than cars that were renowned for being indestructible

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 12-08-2014 8:27pm

ba_barabus wrote: »

That's too cheap for what it is. I reckon it's got rust issues, most probably around the rear strut tops.

I've been looking at that all afternoon as well.
2k for a vintage tax nct exempt v12 rwd seems too good to be true.

ba_barabus · 12-08-2014 8:51pm

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

My way of looking at that is if its made it this far, its been loved somewhere along the way and hopefully in the last few years as opposed to the first few years. Its for that reason that id have no problem buying something like this, or a lancia beta for example, because the reason why they haven't been converted in bean cans was because they were looked after. I find this applies a lot with cars that had poor reliability issues at the start of their lives, than cars that were renowned for being indestructible

The problem is they need constant care. A lot of these cars are now being bought by people who simply just want to avoid paying the tax and nct cost. They buy them and run them till they drop. I've seen some great cars ruined in the past few years by owners who think it's a great tax loophole.

kev1.3s · 12-08-2014 10:09pm

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

My way of looking at that is if its made it this far, its been loved somewhere along the way and hopefully in the last few years as opposed to the first few years. Its for that reason that id have no problem buying something like this, or a lancia beta for example, because the reason why they haven't been converted in bean cans was because they were looked after. I find this applies a lot with cars that had poor reliability issues at the start of their lives, than cars that were renowned for being indestructible

Probably loved in it's previous life in the UK then it was brought over by someone with too much Celtic tiger cash and treated like shît. I once seen a mk1 xj6 in rare manual with a fsh from new brought over and when the new owner found out it wasn't as driver friendly as his modern he left it parked in the open to rot away! A very sad end for a special car.

porsche959 · 12-08-2014 10:17pm

Trojan wrote: »

And you need to pay for two parking spots every time.

While not exactly an ideal city car it's not as long as it looks. 4870 mm compared to 4905 mm for a modern S Type. Modern equivalent to the XJS, the XK is not much shorter at 4794 mm though it looks a lot more compact.

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