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Ebola Virus "beyond our control" in West Africa

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    #32
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
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    Nuke em all and let God sort em out. A pretty standard approach to disease control you'll find.


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    #33
    KungPao
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    donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »
    Nuke em all and let God sort em out. A pretty standard approach to disease control you'll find.

    Or just nuke the entire planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure the virus is gone.


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    #34
    Fozzie Bear
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    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    If the virus leads to infections in the thousands or the hundreds of thousands the use of nuclear weapons should not be ruled out.

    Nukes huh?

    Would you say it's time for us to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside??

    Bear Grylls must be hoarding his own pi$$ as we speak....


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    #35
    eamonnq
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    Fozzie Bear wrote: »
    Nukes huh?

    Would you say it's time for us to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside??

    I think some heads may not even have GOO inside.


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    #36
    o1s1n
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    KungPao wrote: »
    Or just nuke the entire planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure the virus is gone.

    Fcukin' A!


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    #37
    Sugar Free
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    Tom Clancy predicted this global outbreak a long time ago. All it needs first is ISIS to capture some top scientists and doctors and voila!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Orders
    KungPao wrote: »
    Of course Madagascar has already closed its shipping ports and airports. So, it'll be up to them to ride out the storm and begin re-populating the earth.

    I <3 Pandemic


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    #38
    Beano
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    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    There is no cure. The only way to stop it spreading is to quarantine the infected and pray that nobody from West Africa carrying the virus travels on an international flight infecting fellow passengers who in turn infect a crowded airport before spreading the virus to hundreds of thousands and then tens of millions.

    You been watching 12 monkeys again?


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    #39
    bb1234567
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    I think if humanity was as close to the brink of demise as you say, we would be hearing a bit more about it


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    #40
    Azwaldo55
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    bb1234567 wrote: »
    I think if humanity was as close to the brink of demise as you say, we would be hearing a bit more about it

    That's what they want you to think.


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    #41
    o1s1n
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    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    That's what they want you to think.

    Can you make me a tinfoil hat too please?


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    #42
    miss no stars
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    In fairness, it's a pretty serious piece of news. MSF can't contain it anymore? While it might not wipe out all of humanity I'd hate to think it'd spread to here and what would happen if it did. Would our hospitals cope?


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    #43
    KungPao
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    miss no stars wrote: »
    In fairness, it's a pretty serious piece of news. MSF can't contain it anymore? While it might not wipe out all of humanity I'd hate to think it'd spread to here and what would happen if it did. Would our hospitals cope?
    They can barely cope as it is... A relentless killer pandemic may just push our health service over the edge!


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    #44
    Jerrica
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    miss no stars wrote: »
    Would our hospitals cope?

    Yes, but with a few casualties along the way. We don't have any dedicated infectious disease units in our hospitals so we'd be relying on standard hygiene practices, these have been shown on many occasions to be less than best-practice so they'd obviously have to be tightened up. It would take the loss of a few lives for that to happen. Then it depends on exposure levels to other people, if it stayed relatively self contained and only health care professionals contracted the virus then I imagine it would stay quite local within the hospital, and once isolation was established you could wait it out until all cases were either dead or recovered.

    The difficulty is that we have no BSL-4 labs here in IReland, no official ones anyway, but I've heard rumours that some BSL-3 labs have small quantities of Ebolavirus for research purposes. So getting a confirmed diagnosis could cause a delay during which the virus could spread through improper handling of infected patients.


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    #45
    bb1234567
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    miss no stars wrote: »
    In fairness, it's a pretty serious piece of news. MSF can't contain it anymore? While it might not wipe out all of humanity I'd hate to think it'd spread to here and what would happen if it did. Would our hospitals cope?

    Well , itd be much easier to control a viral outbbreak in europe than west africa. Borders are tighter, more security, better health awareness and general hygiene. Also we are an island..Im sure that would stand to us? Like it would take longer to spread here than to the continent

    But yeah wouldnt like to see it coming round here...90% mortality rate?! Thats crazy. Swine flu was like 10% mortality at most, and it mostly just killed the elderly and those with health problems


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    #46
    kowloon
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    Sugar Free wrote: »
    I <3 Pandemic


    For those who are wondering what this means: http://www.crazymonkeygames.com/Pandemic-2.html


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    Jerrica wrote: »
    Yes, but with a few casualties along the way. We don't have any dedicated infectious disease units in our hospitals so we'd be relying on standard hygiene practices, these have been shown on many occasions to be less than best-practice so they'd obviously have to be tightened up.

    We have TB hospitals such as Merlin Park in Galway which as all separate units so a place like this would be ideal for segregation of patients at different stages of the disease.


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    #48
    Jerrica
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    Beckham Flat Vaporizer wrote: »
    We have TB hospitals such as Merlin Park in Galway which as all separate units so a place like this would be ideal for segregation of patients at different stages of the disease.

    What kind of biosafety precautions have they got there? You'd also have the issue of secure transport.

    Musing about the demise of humanity is so much fun :pac: :D


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    #49
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
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    Jerrica wrote: »
    Yes, but with a few casualties along the way. We don't have any dedicated infectious disease units in our hospitals so we'd be relying on standard hygiene practices, these have been shown on many occasions to be less than best-practice so they'd obviously have to be tightened up. It would take the loss of a few lives for that to happen. Then it depends on exposure levels to other people, if it stayed relatively self contained and only health care professionals contracted the virus then I imagine it would stay quite local within the hospital, and once isolation was established you could wait it out until all cases were either dead or recovered.

    The difficulty is that we have no BSL-4 labs here in IReland, no official ones anyway, but I've heard rumours that some BSL-3 labs have small quantities of Ebolavirus for research purposes. So getting a confirmed diagnosis could cause a delay during which the virus could spread through improper handling of infected patients.

    They do.


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    #50
    Jerrica
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    donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »
    They do.

    That's awesome :D

    Those labs wouldn't be able to run large-scale diagnostics though would they? I mean not on a large-scale national level anyway.


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    #51
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    Jerrica wrote: »
    What kind of biosafety precautions have they got there? You'd also have the issue of secure transport.

    Musing about the demise of humanity is so much fun :pac: :D

    As it stands nothing out of the ordinary I'd imagine apart from the fact the there are 12 or 14 different totally separate units which is a very good start as you can completely isolate different groups of patients etc.


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    #52
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    Jerrica wrote: »
    That's awesome :D

    Those labs wouldn't be able to run large-scale diagnostics though would they? I mean not on a large-scale national level anyway.

    Diagnostics, probably not. If they had to try and house several hundred patient samples I think they would struggle. The strains they keep are for investigating how to best combat the virus. There are some people in the HSE who have studied these types of infectious diseases in detail and would advise the government on how best to proceed in the case of a large scale outbreak. The same people receive every kind of vaccination that is available as they travel to the outbreak sites to study the progression of the disease through a population. Grim work.


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    #53
    The One Who Knocks
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    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    There is no cure. The only way to stop it spreading is to quarantine the infected and pray that nobody from West Africa carrying the virus travels on an international flight infecting fellow passengers who in turn infect a crowded airport before spreading the virus to hundreds of thousands and then tens of millions.

    The Ebola virus is spread through direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person

    The only reason it's spreading so quickly in West Africa is because of poor sanitation. You literally have to come into contact with someones blood or sh*t to catch it.

    It wouldn't stand a chance in developed countries, the incubation period is too short.

    Now shtap scaremongering.


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    #54
    galwayredgirl
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    Beckham Flat Vaporizer wrote: »
    We have TB hospitals such as Merlin Park in Galway which as all separate units so a place like this would be ideal for segregation of patients at different stages of the disease.

    Those units in Merlin are pretty dilapidated - I doubt if James Reilly knows what Ebola is. He is too busy ordering reports / research and statistics to tell us that we are drinking and smoking too much!

    Not to worry we will all be dead from the drink and the cigarettes by the time Ebola reaches us.


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    #55
    Ineedaname
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    The One Who Knocks wrote: »
    The Ebola virus is spread through direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person

    The only reason it's spreading so quickly in West Africa is because of poor sanitation. You literally have to come into contact with someones blood or sh*t to catch it.

    It wouldn't stand a chance in developed countries, the incubation period is too short.

    Now shtap scaremongering.

    It's also killed by direct exposure to sunlight.


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    #56
    bb1234567
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    Ineedaname wrote: »
    It's also killed by direct exposure to sunlight.
    Pit we've none of that in ireland
    #doomed


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    #57
    Barely There
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    Ineedaname wrote: »
    It's also killed by direct exposure to sunlight.

    Like a vampire.


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    #58
    Tail Docker
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    I had a dodgey rasher for breakfast and am fairly sure my stomach has ebola as we speak. If I'm going down, I'm taking people with me..


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    And why not? The virus has a 90% death rate.
    Madagascar would be safe.


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    #60
    VinLieger
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    Madagascar would be safe.

    Bastards are impossible to get to


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    BonkeyDonker
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    miss no stars wrote: »
    In fairness, it's a pretty serious piece of news. MSF can't contain it anymore? While it might not wipe out all of humanity I'd hate to think it'd spread to here and what would happen if it did. Would our hospitals cope?

    Jaysus - even Ebola wouldn't stand a chance in our hospitals


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