Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Ebola Virus "beyond our control" in West Africa

Options
  • 24-06-2014 9:47am
    #1
    Azwaldo55
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭


    The medical group Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) which is involved in a desperate struggle to contain the dreaded Ebola virus in West Africa have announced the outbreak is "beyond our control."

    Hundreds have died across West Africa in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia. The outbreak was first discovered in February and has steadily worsened and its geographical spread as alarmingly widened. At the moment the World Health Organisation (WHO) has not yet recommended trade and travel restrictions however a conference is scheduled in Ghana for early July.

    Ebola is an extremely contagious virus hemorrhagic fever with a 90% death rate among the infected. The initial symptoms of the virus are typical flu like symptoms such as chills, sore throat, severe headache, weakness, joint pain, muscle pain, and chest pain. However as it progresses the symptoms get worse resulting in nausea and vomiting, diarrhea (may be bloody), red eyes, raised rash, chest pain and cough, stomach pain, severe weight loss, bleeding from the nose, mouth, rectum, eyes and ears. Death occurs due to multiple organ dysfunction syndrome (MODS) due to fluid redistribution, hypotension, disseminated intravascular coagulation, and focal tissue necroses. From infection to death can take a little as ten days.

    Were the virus to spread outside of West Africa to the rest of the Africa continent, to the Middle East, Asia, Europe and the Americas the results would be global catastrophe that would wipe out most of humanity.

    http://time.com/2913079/doctors-without-borders-ebola/


«134

Comments

  • Options
    #2
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Eh, repost
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057174793&page=5


  • Options
    #3
    eamonnq
    Registered Users Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »

    Were the virus to spread outside of West Africa to the rest of the Africa continent, to the Middle East, Asia, Europe and the Americas the results would be global catastrophe that would wipe out most of humanity.

    http://time.com/2913079/doctors-without-borders-ebola/

    Yeah, but it won't.


  • Options
    #4
    Azwaldo55
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Azwaldo55


    eamonnq wrote: »
    Yeah, but it won't.

    And why not? The virus has a 90% death rate.


  • Options
    #5
    TwoShedsJackson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    And why not? The virus has a 90% death rate.

    And that's why it'll most likely not spread - it kills too fast, and most people in the area have neither the means nor the desire to travel elsewhere.

    For a disease to spread globally it would need to be both highly infectious and have a relatively long incubation time.


  • Options
    #6
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    And why not? The virus has a 90% death rate.

    Not lessening the seriousness of the virus but that death rate is in 3rd world countries with terrible health care facilities. In a first world county with access to proper healthcare facilities I'd imagine that death rate would reduce significantly.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #7
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Aren't we all supposed to be dead from bird flu by now?


  • Options
    #8
    scudo2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »
    Aren't we all supposed to be dead from bird flu by now?

    Na.
    Swine flue got a court injunction to stop it spreading scaremongering rumors.


  • Options
    #9
    Azwaldo55
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Azwaldo55


    Beckham Flat Vaporizer wrote: »
    Not lessening the seriousness of the virus but that death rate is in 3rd world countries with terrible health care facilities. In a first world county with access to proper healthcare facilities I'd imagine that death rate would reduce significantly.

    There is no cure. The only way to stop it spreading is to quarantine the infected and pray that nobody from West Africa carrying the virus travels on an international flight infecting fellow passengers who in turn infect a crowded airport before spreading the virus to hundreds of thousands and then tens of millions.


  • Options
    #10
    eamonnq
    Registered Users Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    And why not? The virus has a 90% death rate.

    because they are having a conference about it in early July, viruses hate conferences.


  • Options
    #11
    The Dagda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭The Dagda


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    There is no cure. The only way to stop it spreading is to quarantine the infected and pray that nobody from West Africa carrying the virus travels on an international flight infecting fellow passengers who in turn infect a crowded airport before spreading the virus to hundreds of thousands and then tens of millions.

    You seem rather excited by that scenario.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #12
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I will have to watch Outbreak again



  • Options
    #13
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    and so it begins


  • Options
    #14
    wretcheddomain
    Registered Users Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    There is no cure. The only way to stop it spreading is to quarantine the infected and pray that nobody from West Africa carrying the virus travels on an international flight infecting fellow passengers who in turn infect a crowded airport before spreading the virus to hundreds of thousands and then tens of millions.

    Swine flu yawn


  • Options
    #15
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    There is no cure. The only way to stop it spreading is to quarantine the infected and pray that nobody from West Africa carrying the virus travels on an international flight infecting fellow passengers who in turn infect a crowded airport before spreading the virus to hundreds of thousands and then tens of millions.


    The quarantine and prayer response to infectious diseases has been demonstrated to be effective in the past.


  • Options
    #16
    eamonnq
    Registered Users Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    There is no cure. The only way to stop it spreading is to quarantine the infected and pray that nobody from West Africa carrying the virus travels on an international flight infecting fellow passengers who in turn infect a crowded airport before spreading the virus to hundreds of thousands and then tens of millions.

    and would all the people on the plane be spreading it through their bodily fluids or blood ? And would they then go on and spread it to all the people in the 'crowded airport' in similar fashion.

    Presumably all these people from the 'crowded airport' would be exchanging bodily fluids with all the people on the planes that they board also.

    I would not be too worried about it.


  • Options
    #17
    Azwaldo55
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Azwaldo55


    eamonnq wrote: »
    and would all the people on the plane be spreading it through their bodily fluids or blood ? And would they then go on and spread it to all the people in the 'crowded airport' in similar fashion.

    Presumably all these people from the 'crowded airport' would be exchanging bodily fluids with all the people on the planes that they board also.

    I would not be too worried about it.

    Sneezing and coughing would do that.


  • Options
    #18
    TwoShedsJackson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    biko wrote: »
    I will have to watch Outbreak again


    Watch Contagion instead.


  • Options
    #19
    Strawberry Swan
    Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭Strawberry Swan


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    And why not? The virus has a 90% death rate.

    ". . . up to 90% death rate". It depends on which Ebola type it is. I'm no good at maths but I'm pretty sure 330 deaths out of 520 cases is not 90%. (If those figures are right)

    No doubt a proper healthcare system, even running water and soap, in developed countries would bring the death rate way down.


  • Options
    #20
    TwoShedsJackson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    Sneezing and coughing would do that.

    No it won't
    Ebola is introduced into the human population through close contact with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected animals. In Africa, infection has been documented through the handling of infected chimpanzees, gorillas, fruit bats, monkeys, forest antelope and porcupines found ill or dead or in the rainforest.

    Ebola then spreads in the community through human-to-human transmission, with infection resulting from direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected people, and indirect contact with environments contaminated with such fluids. Burial ceremonies in which mourners have direct contact with the body of the deceased person can also play a role in the transmission of Ebola. Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness.


  • Options
    #21
    wretcheddomain
    Registered Users Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    TwoShedsJackson wrote: »
    No it won't

    They are wearing face masks here.

    Explain.

    Let me anticipate, they're for fashion reasons only?


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #22
    Duckworth_Luas
    Registered Users Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Are apes immune to this virus?

    When humanity falls they're the last guys I want to see take over.

    Damned dirty apes!


  • Options
    #23
    TwoShedsJackson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    wretcheddomain wrote: »
    They are wearing face masks here.

    Explain.

    Let me anticipate, they're for fashion reasons only?

    Simple precautions can't hurt.
    Transmission

    EVD is believed to occur after an ebolavirus is transmitted to a human index case via contact with an infected animal host. Human-to-human transmission occurs via direct contact with blood or bodily fluids from an infected person (including embalming of an infected dead person) or by contact with contaminated medical equipment such as needles. In the past, explosive nosocomial transmission has occurred in under-equipped African hospitals due to the reuse of needles and lack of implementation of universal precautions. Aerosol transmission has not been observed during natural EVD outbreaks. The potential for widespread EVD epidemics is considered low due to the high case-fatality rate, the rapidity of demise of patients, and the often remote areas where infections occur.


  • Options
    #24
    Jerrica
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Jerrica


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    And why not? The virus has a 90% death rate.

    No, it has up to a 90% fatality rate. According to the CDC (as of June 18) the current Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia outbreak has a case fatality rate of 64% (See Here)

    As much as I love this virus (and I do, it's fascinating, popularised by The Hot Zone, but a much more realistic and less-sensationalised account of the virus is represented in Virus Hunters and Spillover: Animal Infection and the Next Human Pandemic) Ebolavirus most likely won't be responsible for the next pandemic catastrophe. It has a long and delightful history of emerging into pockets of human communities (from where we don't know, infected bushmeat? Bats?), killing a few hundred people (280 in 1976 in Zaire, 200ish in Uganda in 2001) and then disappearing again. It's a locally devastating virus but highly unlikely to become something we need to worry about.

    Duckworth_Luas no apes aren't immune, and whole swathes of great ape populations (orang-utan, chimps, gorillas) have been wiped out at various times from ebola.


  • Options
    #25
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Are we all dead yet?


  • Options
    #26
    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,836 ✭✭✭893bet


    wretcheddomain wrote: »
    They are wearing face masks here.

    Explain.

    Let me anticipate, they're for fashion reasons only?

    Dont think that body they are carrying will be coughing any time soon.


  • Options
    #27
    eamonnq
    Registered Users Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »
    Are we all dead yet?

    Just the OP.


  • Options
    #28
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Duckworth_Luas wrote: »
    Are apes immune to this virus?

    When humanity falls they're the last guys I want to see take over.

    Damned dirty apes!



  • Options
    #29
    Azwaldo55
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭Azwaldo55


    If the virus leads to infections in the thousands or the hundreds of thousands the use of nuclear weapons should not be ruled out.


  • Options
    #30
    KungPao
    Registered Users Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Of course Madagascar has already closed its shipping ports and airports. So, it'll be up to them to ride out the storm and begin re-populating the earth.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #31
    eamonnq
    Registered Users Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    Azwaldo55 wrote: »
    If the virus leads to infections in the thousands or the hundreds of thousands the use of nuclear weapons should not be ruled out.

    Ah jaysus. :rolleyes:


Advertisement