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Why is it wrong to oppose mass immigration?
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Oh really?That said a lot of people oppose immigration basically because they are racists.
So there is a quote saying all or most people that oppose immigration are basically racists..
I wonder how this person came to that conclusion and probably without any statistical evidence..
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hotbabe1992 wrote: »Oh really?
So there is a quote saying all or most people that oppose immigration are basically racists..
I wonder how this person came to that conclusion and probably without any statistical evidence..
It's pretty obvious that people that favour immigration restrictions are racist/xenophobic. They want to limit people's freedom of movement based on where they are born i.e. they want to discriminate based on people's nationalities/race0 -
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So what immigration do people want to stop, or allow. Is it UK or UK and EU or is it all. Does that include non Irish from US with names like Murphy who don't have passport but speak irish and are Irish dancing champions. Or is it just Muslim immigration or African.
I want a stop to it all,until we review our situation and put better controls on it kind of like what they do in australia.
Another thing australians do not allow is freedom of movement of goods nothing like funny little chinese reptiles that might destroy the enviornment or anything like that.In cork a shipment came in and it was spotted by chance that a highly poisionous african spider showed up.All the more reason to have these sorts of controls in place like the australians do.
I know we are part of the european union and that means freedom of for all but there are a lot of people who exploit that,who hop country to country until they land in Ireland or England or Norway (you know those with a more generous welfare system in place ). Those who asylum shop who contribute nothing and make the queue for the nhs in the uk for example LONGER AND LONGER, i know one woman(my aunt) who works in the nhs and says uncontrolled immigration has completley blocked up the whole system.
There are not just welfare tourists but healthcare tourists,who cannot be turned away,my aunt who broke her ankle on the london big wheel thingie in getting on has to be brought to the NHS(and she works there herself)had to wait a whopping 48 hours(thats about 2 days)before she got treated.
When is this immigration madness going to stop,we have seen what it has done to the UK,when are we going to look at this with a more critical eye without be branded with the term ''racist''.It's pretty obvious that people that favour immigration restrictions are racist/xenophobic. They want to limit people's freedom of movement based on where they are born i.e. they want to discriminate based on people's nationalities/race
You see this madness of everyone is a xenophobe or a racist has to stop,it is literally changing the way our country works,whole welfare services are stretched,hospital services,healthcare tourists are finding excuses to turn up in countries far from where they reside yes it is a problem.We should look after our own and get our own country in order first before opening the floodgates and having a dense population.
As it is the enviornment is suffering from overpopulation,what did david attenborough say it is barmy to keep feeding the africans'',we cannot put everybody on a life support machine.
Think of how much toilet paper how much water how many cars are being used everyday,and our governments just want more and more and more immigration,all they care about is more heads to tax,but they will pay for it in the longrun with the healthcare and welfare bill..
The only people who benefit from mass immigration in the long run are supermarkets and big business jet setting moguls who sell laptops and iphones made in china and poor countries.You or i do not benefit from the ills of overpopulation cramming as many people into one square foot is not the answer.
Wake up and see that this human infestation is destroying our enviornment,our resources are dwindling,fish stocks are down,mineral you name it is suffering,its destroying our countries too,this madness cannot go on..
Champagne liberals will argue without real research,well you know what this stimulates the economy(i would say the welfare bill) what good is a paper money rich economy with no real rich enviornmental resources,our only true wealth is our enviornment we must put this above all and prioritise it.
The downfall of human beings is that we want a quick fix approach to make our money fast and forget about what impact this has on the enviornment.0 -
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But they are not turned away either - they have to live on something,hardly fresh air.As regards "welfare tourists" you can't arrive and claim.
Oh really have a good read over this thread and read between the lines carefully there are accusations of racism everywhere.No accusations of racism there I'm afraid - just double standards.OP, you realize that if the US, Canada, Australia, etc. sent all the Irish back that the dole queue would be so full of Irish people it would resemble the Paddy's Day parade? Would you prefer that, or do you just want one rule for us and one for other nationalities?
There are insinuations of racism all over this thread,which is why i say the immigration argument is very rigid,people who are pro immigration,usually champagne socialists,aggressively look for racism with every debate.
Pro immigration = not racist
Against immigration = damn racist.
Thats how these convos work generally
And just for pigiron,heres another example:It's pretty obvious that people that favour immigration restrictions are racist/xenophobic. They want to limit people's freedom of movement based on where they are born i.e. they want to discriminate based on people's nationalities/race0 -
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BurnsCarpenter wrote: »Every 1st world country has some degree of control over its borders. It would be madness to just admit anybody who wanted. That's not racist. I don't think it's xenophobic either, unless you consider looking after the interests of your citizens to be xenophobic.
Why would it be madness to leave in people that want to come here? Surely it's madness to say that somebody can't come here because of an accident of birth.
Preferring one group of people over another based on where they were born sounds fairly racist/xenophobic to me.hotbabe1992 wrote: »I know we are part of the european union and that means freedom of for all but there are a lot of people who exploit that,who hop country to country until they land in Ireland or England or Norway (you know those with a more generous welfare system in place ). Those who asylum shop who contribute nothing and make the queue for the nhs in the uk for example LONGER AND LONGER, i know one woman(my aunt) who works in the nhs and says uncontrolled immigration has completley blocked up the whole system.
There are not just welfare tourists but healthcare tourists,who cannot be turned away,my aunt who broke her ankle on the london big wheel thingie in getting on has to be brought to the NHS(and she works there herself)had to wait a whopping 48 hours(thats about 2 days)before she got treated.
When is this immigration madness going to stop,we have seen what it has done to the UK,when are we going to look at this with a more critical eye without be branded with the term ''racist''.
Favouring immigration restrictions because an outdated healthcare system can't cope with the demands of the modern world isn't very logical.You see this madness of everyone is a xenophobe or a racist has to stop,it is literally changing the way our country works,whole welfare services are stretched,hospital services,healthcare tourists are finding excuses to turn up in countries far from where they reside yes it is a problem.We should look after our own and get our own country in order first before opening the floodgates and having a dense population.
Why not ban immigrants from claiming welfare and charge them to use the healthcare system?As it is the enviornment is suffering from overpopulation,what did david attenborough say it is barmy to keep feeding the africans'',we cannot put everybody on a life support machine.
So we should prohibit Africans from eating food now?Think of how much toilet paper how much water how many cars are being used everyday,and our governments just want more and more and more immigration,all they care about is more heads to tax,but they will pay for it in the longrun with the healthcare and welfare bill..
I'm fairly sure the car and toilet paper companies would be more than happy to provide more toilet paper and cars.
Immigrants tend to be fairly young so the healthcare and welfare bills would actually become more affordable.The only people who benefit from mass immigration in the long run are supermarkets and big business jet setting moguls who sell laptops and iphones made in china and poor countries.You or i do not benefit from the ills of overpopulation cramming as many people into one square foot is not the answer.
Everybody benefits from immigration in the long run. To quote from this Forbes article:Freer trade has made Americans much richer over the past 50 years; unfreezing labor flows could deliver vast gains over the next 50. According to some estimates, removing immigration controls could more than double the size of the world economy.Fears that immigrants threaten American workers are mostly misplaced. Just as working women haven’t deprived men of jobs, immigrants create jobs as well as filling them–both when they spend their wages and in complementary lines of work.Research by Gianmarco Ottaviano of Bologna University and UC, Davis’ Giovanni Peri found that the influx of foreign workers between 1990 and 2004 raised native-born Americans’ wages by 2%. Only one in ten–high school dropouts–lost slightly, by 1%. All Americans benefited from higher capital returns, cheaper goods and services and faster productivity growth.Immigrants are 30% more likely than native-born Americans to start their own business.
Some facts a little closer to home:Since 2004 three rich European countries–Britain, Ireland, and Sweden–have allowed people in eight poor eastern European countries (notably Poland) to come work there freely. All 75 million of those eastern Europeans could have moved, yet only 1 million did–and half have already gone home.When in 2004 Poles were given the option of moving to Sweden–which has the most generous welfare state on earth–or to Britain and Ireland, which denied Poles access to any benefits until they had worked for a year, less than 1% opted for Sweden. America, too, could deny immigrants access to welfare initially.
Believe it or not, would be immigrants are not a bunch of welfare tourists. They are mostly hard working people that will everybody else better off.Wake up and see that this human infestation is destroying our enviornment,our resources are dwindling,fish stocks are down,mineral you name it is suffering,its destroying our countries too,this madness cannot go on..
Well if humans are so bad I can think of an easy way for you to reduce the human population by 1 and improve the environment.Champagne liberals will argue without real research,well you know what this stimulates the economy(i would say the welfare bill) what good is a paper money rich economy with no real rich enviornmental resources,our only true wealth is our enviornment we must put this above all and prioritise it.
The downfall of human beings is that we want a quick fix approach to make our money fast and forget about what impact this has on the enviornment.
If we put the environment above everything else we would all be still living in caves. I can assume from the fact you are a member of Boards.ie that you are not living by your own advice but you do expect foreigners to do so. Interesting.0 -
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A dangerous African spider came in on a shipment from another EU state? You sure about that?
It is possible for goods to be shipped from africa to an eu country what is so bizzare about that ever read the labels of origin on oranges and bananas and other fruits and some other foodstuffs etc?
You make it sound like its impossible. 0 -
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