LET IT SNOW AND BE COLD!!!RAMPING THREADMod Note #1193#2705

CianRyan · 28-11-2012 6:46pm

It's a bloody cold 0* in Tallaght right now.
My car is covered in hundreds of tiny ice beads.

Super hoop · 28-11-2012 6:49pm

-1 right now in stamullen.was -3 last night and temp only reached 3c for short periods today....brrrrr!

Calibos · 28-11-2012 7:09pm

I don't know why some people are accusing this forums resident experts of ramping. I started regularily reading the netweather model threads a few days ago. Our lads here are paragons of level headedness by comparison. Its not ramping to make people aware of the very real possibility of snow that the models were showing nor is it ramping to discuss those models. I am sick of people accusing our lads of overhyping things. In the last week or two there were people giving out that a storm system had been overhyped. WTF! The models were suggesting the possibility. Our lads were discussing the models. If mere discussion is now considered ramping or hyping then we may as well tell the lads to go off to a private forum to discuss the models and only post anything here when its 100% certain. Does anyone want that. We wont learn anything that way. People need to get it into there head that this forum is not specifically a weather forecasting forum. Its a weather enthusiasts forum. If you only come here for a forecast then confine yourself to MT's daily forcast thread and stop bloody reading the Hype model discussion threads

Duggys Housemate · 28-11-2012 8:42pm

So I am apparently the only person to find today cold and wintry?

faktisperminute · 28-11-2012 10:06pm

You guys kidding ? is like -2 here that's cold for Ireland

+ some of us will see sleet tomorrow not too bad now.

Cantona's Collars · 28-11-2012 10:06pm

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

So I am apparently the only person to find today cold and wintry?

I did,but in fairness I did drive across a mountain,experienced first snow of the winter.:)

zidewayz · 28-11-2012 10:33pm

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

So I am apparently the only person to find today cold and wintry?

Today was pretty cold up on Kippure. Plenty of snow remaining from the other days snowfall. Hopefully signs of the winter to come.

Sponge Bob · 28-11-2012 10:34pm

zidewayz wrote: »

Today was pretty cold up on Kippure.

You must love that Samoyed a lot.

red_bairn · 28-11-2012 10:39pm

zidewayz wrote: »

Today was pretty cold up on Kippure. Plenty of snow remaining from the other days snowfall. Hopefully signs of the winter to come.

I love those dogs. <3

zidewayz · 28-11-2012 10:44pm

Sponge Bob wrote: »

You must love that Samoyed a lot.

Sure do.. Perfect companion for hiking especially during the winter.

DOCARCH · 29-11-2012 7:40am

Report on AA Roadwatch on the radio this morning of 'light snow showers near Twomileborris'....

....sent text to AA Roadwatch....pictures of GTF!

Conrach · 29-11-2012 12:23pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

BWS should be BullSh*t Weather

How does a so called professional weather advisor to organisations get involved in such daft wish-casting and scaremongering

Winter forecasting and preparation should be this simple:

1) Its winter time, have all the utensils on standby that you might need to cope with frost, ice, snow, flooding or high winds, as an organisation or a private individual.

2) The UK Met / Met É will tell you with a day or two's notice when you might need to use them, and from that perspective they will be 80% right. If they're wrong, no harm no foul, stay calm and carry on, there might be more weather tomorrow.

Levels of professionalism go down as the amount of money paid goes up!
Maybe one of their clients are the AA. Paid to put out a hyped forecast just as the AA start a campaign to sell their Winter insurance. :rolleyes:

Rasmus · 29-11-2012 12:30pm

zidewayz wrote: »

Today was pretty cold up on Kippure. Plenty of snow remaining from the other days snowfall. Hopefully signs of the winter to come.

is that Wicklow?

zidewayz · 29-11-2012 12:56pm

Rasmus wrote: »

is that Wicklow?

No it is Co Dublin. Right on the border of Wicklow and north of the Wicklow mountains. Snowline approx 650m asl but ascending quickly. You can guarantee more snow in Wicklow mountains if there is snow on kippure.

If the snow doesn't come to me I will go to the snow. Had two or three trips up there last year with snow dispite a mild winter.

martin.covan · 29-11-2012 12:57pm

Rasmus wrote: »

is that Wicklow?

yeah,that's wicklow.
I live up at 700ft in the south west of the county and can see lug naquilla and it is completely white.
With binoculars it looks impressive,looks several inches deep right across the mountain,everything covered.
It's like the alps up there

SnowDrifts · 29-11-2012 1:59pm

The boarder runs just about through the summit of Kippure. So Dublin owns the northern half whilst Wicklow has the southern half!

Rasmus · 29-11-2012 2:02pm

martin.covan wrote: »

yeah,that's wicklow.
I live up at 700ft in the south west of the county and can see lug naquilla and it is completely white.
With binoculars it looks impressive,looks several inches deep right across the mountain,everything covered.
It's like the alps up there

Wow I'd love to be there!

DOCARCH · 29-11-2012 2:22pm

SnowDrifts wrote: »

The boarder runs just about through the summit of Kippure. So Dublin owns the northern half whilst Wicklow has the southern half!

Yip. Correct.

Had that argument on here a couple of years ago with all the Wickla lads trying claim all the snow for themselves! :P

Weathering · 29-11-2012 9:04pm

Hope we get some interesting weather soon. Mt's hint at possible severe gusts early next week are something to cling to in this otherwise drab period

icesnowfrost · 29-11-2012 9:14pm

RTE are hinting at the 2nd half of next week to get cold again.........by the way were is a good place (mountain) that is easily accessible to get to ie drive then walk....that will have snow

slowburner · 29-11-2012 9:37pm

icesnowfrost wrote: »

RTE are hinting at the 2nd half of next week to get cold again.........by the way were is a good place (mountain) that is easily accessible to get to ie drive then walk....that will have snow

Everest has snow, but it's quite a long walk from the car.

icesnowfrost · 29-11-2012 9:49pm

slowburner wrote: »

Everest has snow, but it's quite a long walk from the car.

but seriously were in the dublin wicklow are would have snow 200m or higher.......?

CianRyan · 29-11-2012 9:55pm

icesnowfrost wrote: »

but seriously were in the dublin wicklow are would have snow 200m or higher.......?

Kippure is the best as long as the Military Road stays open, it's only about 13-20 minute drive from Tallaght and you're on pretty high ground.

Here's the route, which takes you through bog land which is likely to have a fair bit of snow during the winter.

highdef · 29-11-2012 9:58pm

Yes, a lot higher. The easiest to get to right now is Kippure.....the mountain, not the Boardsie!!! You need to park your car near the gate from the main road - https://maps.google.ie/?ll=53.166019,-6.294394&spn=0.021225,0.055747&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=53.166056,-6.294279&panoid=_BlEAG16DTAjzNPZQ2fvCg&cbp=12,294.73,,0,0.42 - You can figure out how to get that point from that link. You're at about 500m at that point. I doubt there'll be much, if any snow there. Maybe frost but that would be it, I would reckon. The summit of Kippure is about 750m so somewhere between where you parked your car and the summit, you will cross the snowline....probably. Technically the road may belong to RTE so I am unsure of the legalities of walking along the road. I'm a television engineer (don't work for RTE though) and have driven to the summit before but I don't think the gate is open much these days.....not at weekends anyway

icesnowfrost · 29-11-2012 10:02pm

highdef wrote: »

Yes, a lot higher. The easiest to get to right now is Kippure.....the mountain, not the Boardsie!!! You need to park your car near the gate from the main road - https://maps.google.ie/?ll=53.166019,-6.294394&spn=0.021225,0.055747&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=53.166056,-6.294279&panoid=_BlEAG16DTAjzNPZQ2fvCg&cbp=12,294.73,,0,0.42 - You can figure out how to get that point from that link. You're at about 500m at that point. I doubt there'll be much, if any snow there. Maybe frost but that would be it, I would reckon. The summit of Kippure is about 750m so somewhere between where you parked your car and the summit, you will cross the snowline....probably. Technically the road may belong to RTE so I am unsure of the legalities of walking along the road. I'm a television engineer (don't work for RTE though) and have driven to the summit before but I don't think the gate is open much these days.....not at weekends anyway

is it safe to park a car there

CianRyan · 29-11-2012 10:13pm

icesnowfrost wrote: »

is it safe to park a car there

You hear of all sorts in the mountains.
Just don't leave anything valuable in sight inside the car and you should be alright.
There's a fair bit of traffic over the road and it's in plain view so no one could spend too long messing at the car.

NIALL D · 29-11-2012 10:24pm

CianRyan wrote: »

You hear of all sorts in the mountains.
Just don't leave anything valuable in sight inside the car and you should be alright.
There's a fair bit of traffic over the road and it's in plain view so no one could spend too long messing at the car.

and check the back of your car when you get back incase larry murphy is hiding in it waiting for you !! he's always hangin about in the mountains ..

M.T. Cranium · 29-11-2012 11:34pm

Just posting a friendly reminder in all winter-related threads that the

Third Annual Winter Forecast Contest

is open for entries but late penalties will apply starting Sunday 2nd December.

This is available in a separate thread on the weather forum. Thanks.

Note also that the Monthly forecast contest for December is open, with the same deadline, and for 2013 we have added a third form of competition to our existing annual contests, namely seasonal contests which will run from Dec 2012 to Nov 2013 in the four traditional seasons, and this will also produce an annual champion. See the thread for details (which are posted today rather than in the original post).

Lucreto · 29-11-2012 11:57pm

Would a Volcano eruption effect the weather patterns elsewhere in the world?

CianRyan · 30-11-2012 12:04am

Lucreto wrote: »

Would a Volcano eruption effect the weather patterns elsewhere in the world?

Depends on the size of the eruption I'm imagine.

Lucreto · 30-11-2012 12:37am

I see the Plosky Tolbachik volcano in Eastern Russia has erupted.

It is 3,085-meter volcano with an ash cloud of 10km. So far it is just ash they can't tell if there is musch Lava due to cloud cover.

The reason I asked was it erupted in 1962-63 and 1947 if my dates are correct they were bad winters. But I expect it is a coincidence.

Sponge Bob · 30-11-2012 1:59am

No co incidence now you mentioned 1963 and 1947 (both) in a snow ramping thread.

Mr Bumble · 30-11-2012 4:33pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1816_summer.png

maquiladora · 30-11-2012 4:47pm

Lucreto wrote: »

I see the Plosky Tolbachik volcano in Eastern Russia has erupted.

It is 3,085-meter volcano with an ash cloud of 10km. So far it is just ash they can't tell if there is musch Lava due to cloud cover.

The reason I asked was it erupted in 1962-63 and 1947 if my dates are correct they were bad winters. But I expect it is a coincidence.

Last eruption was in 1975 . Eruptions in in 62 and 47 were small (VEI 1 & 2). Absolutely no effect on the weather over here. That only happens with much larger eruptions.

Wibbles19 · 01-12-2012 12:59am

maquiladora wrote: »

Last eruption was in 1975 . Eruptions in in 62 and 47 were small (VEI 1 & 2). Absolutely no effect on the weather over here. That only happens with much larger eruptions.

Boo Urns!!, we wants snow and lots of it;);)(and yes I know no sign at the minute, would be lovely though, DREAMING

icesnowfrost · 01-12-2012 3:36pm

Here is another one... I normally shun these news paper story's but sure have a read.....

Planet X · 01-12-2012 4:07pm

Got a Crick in my Neck now! :pac:

jirafa · 01-12-2012 5:40pm

icesnowfrost wrote: »

Here is another one... I normally shun these news paper story's but sure have a read.....

Duiske · 01-12-2012 6:16pm

jirafa wrote: »

It was just another reporter stating that "hopes of a white xmas dashed", despite the forecaster stating that forecasts change on a daily basis, and that he was basing his opinion on charts as they stand at the moment. Even the darkest depths of today's GFS la-la land only takes us out to 17 Dec, so don't get too depressed, yet.

Conrach · 01-12-2012 10:26pm

I'll stick this here.

https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/274999107284791296/photo/1

"This could be worse than 2010 next 16 days"

HellFireClub · 01-12-2012 10:31pm

Trotter wrote: »

I find the charts enthralling but I'm working off my own vague stats when I say I've seen maybe 10 periods in the last 3 years where I thought I'd see snow after following FI charts. In reality, I've seen less than 5 heavy snow falls in my lifetime.

Based on pure sequencing of snow events, I'm not expecting anything for another 2 to 3 years minimum.

I'm kind of on the same page as you, I'm just not "feeling" it!

Larbre34 · 01-12-2012 11:02pm

Conrach wrote: »

I'll stick this here.

https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/274999107284791296/photo/1

"This could be worse than 2010 next 16 days"

...in Switzerland

if 5 days before Christmas here is as bad or worse than equivalent period in 2010 ill eat all the charts printed in A3. the ensemble of evidence just aint there

TheMilkyPirate · 01-12-2012 11:12pm

Jaffusmaximus wrote: »

Very interesting things happening on the models yet very quite here. Has anyone thoughts on the hype about FI showing a considerable cold period ahead and also after all the talk of a more milder set up we are looking at another trip into to low digit temps. The fact still stands that with a PV that has been put through the shredder so nothing can be taken for certain especially another mild December.

There's nothing happening on the models.

goosey93 · 01-12-2012 11:28pm

https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/274999107284791296

Where is Joe B getting these ideas from? The models are showing some signs of a cold spell but nothing severe the reliable timeframe

BLIZZARD7 · 01-12-2012 11:56pm

baraca wrote: »

There's nothing happening on the models.

Nothing? There is always something... Explain?

Dan

BLIZZARD7 · 02-12-2012 12:51am

Larbre34 wrote: »

...in Switzerland

if 5 days before Christmas here is as bad or worse than equivalent period in 2010 ill eat all the charts printed in A3. the ensemble of evidence just aint there

You most likely will be correct but the cold spell from the 16th to 25th ish of December 2010 was not picked up this early and there wasnt too much signal for it, if anything the charts look much better now for that timeframe than they did in 2010 so who knows...

Dan

TheMilkyPirate · 02-12-2012 1:00am

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

Nothing? There is always something... Explain?

Dan

You know what I mean he said interesting, There's nothing interesting happening in the reliable timeframe.

Sponge Bob · 02-12-2012 1:07am

I think Bastardi is gibbering at present and has been for around 2 weeks BUT I forecast an improvement.

Weathering · 02-12-2012 1:23am

Sponge Bob wrote: »

I think Bastardi is gibbering at present and has been for around 2 weeks BUT I forecast an improvement.

I unfollowed him on twitter. Tbh he's just an idiot

Harps · 02-12-2012 2:00am

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

You most likely will be correct but the cold spell from the 16th to 25th ish of December 2010 was not picked up this early and there wasnt too much signal for it, if anything the charts look much better now for that timeframe than they did in 2010 so who knows...

Dan

Actually, the 18Z GFS on this day two years ago picked it up almost perfectly two weeks away! Timing was a bit off but the signal was definitely there

Forecast on Dec 1st

Actual event

A few recent GFS runs have hinted at high pressure over us or to our north which would lead to easterlies but nothing consistent.

More notably so far this year is the complete lack of any wind or active weather, at this stage last year we were in a far more interesting flow which led to frequent thunder and hail downpours along the W and NW coasts with a few severe storms and snow events. I'd take a repeat over the current projection any day

LET IT SNOW AND BE COLD!!!***RAMPING THREAD***Mod Note #1193#2705

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LET IT SNOW AND BE COLD!!!RAMPING THREADMod Note #1193#2705