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LETS ALL LAUGH AT PEOPLE WITH DEPRESSION!!

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    #2102
    Novella
    Registered Users Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    KingMonkey wrote: »
    um,i would never make fun out of anyone who told me they were depressed....there are many people who commit suicide every year because they believe they cant tell anyone how desperatley unhappy they feel,even one of my own relatives took his own life because of it...no disrespect but the title of this thread really isnt gonna help anyone who is feeling low at the moment....just my opinion :/

    Er, did you actually read the thread??


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    #2103
    KingMonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭KingMonkey


    lets look at the title!! granted i didnt trawl thru the whole thing,i just feel the title takes the piss outta anyone who has depression....


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    #2104
    KingMonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭KingMonkey


    note that i actually did say title in my post


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    #2105
    Novella
    Registered Users Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    KingMonkey wrote: »
    lets look at the title!! granted i didnt trawl thru the whole thing,i just feel the title takes the piss outta anyone who has depression....

    Did you even read the first post? 'Cause that alone would make it clear that this thread wasn't for mocking anybody. The thread title is attention grabbing. You see it, you think, "Huh?!" and you read on. Well, that's what I did, and from the first line of the OP it was obvious the thread wasn't going to be derogatory.


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    #2106
    KingMonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭KingMonkey


    fair enough but im still saying the title shouldnt be what it is...maybe im wrong maybe u guys think its great but could defo be misconstrued....im not here for an argument....


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    #2107
    Novella
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    KingMonkey wrote: »
    fair enough but im still saying the title shouldnt be what it is...maybe im wrong maybe u guys think its great but could defo be misconstrued....im not here for an argument....

    I'm not here for an argument either. I think this is a wonderful thread and it's so obviously not about mocking anybody that I find it a little irritating when people jump in and nit-pick at it without even reading it. Anyway, this is off-topic so I'll leave it there. :)


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    #2108
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Feeling a bit better today.

    I have my second psycologist appointment in Strabane on the 2nd of July and my 8th counselling appointment in Belfast the day after. I'm everwhere at the moment. :pac:

    I realise regarding the girlfriend/friend issue I just relax about it and take my time, I don't turn 26 till the 4th of august and 4 years before I turn 30. I'm embarresed about my situation, and obviously worried about all the crap that plenty of fish say about virgins over 30 (i.e. that 60% wont date them etc).

    But like I say, no point beating myself up about it, just don't panic and take my time and if I work at it, it might be done. I'm having counselling for first time in my life, I'm reading up on cognetive therapy behaviour for the first time. So for the first time ever I'm in the process of actually trying to do something about it.

    I know bitching about it on the internet isn't going to do any good so for the past few weeks I've been letting off steam, but I've calmed down now and starting think postively long term how this can be tackled.

    Its still 4 years and a month before I turn 30, so it is plenty of time for therapy and socialising to improve by then (if I work at it - which I will).

    I'm just keep thinking to myself I can't be that bad surely??

    So as I say just thinking postively about myself and looking to see what the 'small steps' are that I can take. :)

    Thanks for all the support guys, the fight starts here!! Bring it on!!


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    #2109
    TeddyTedson
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    There must be thousands of people suffering from depression undiagnosed.
    I don't think it's something I could discuss with a GP or anyone else for that matter if I felt I was suffering with depression, but then I tend to have problems discussing emotions for some reason.
    It's obviously not the most black and white thing to diagnose either.


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    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    There must be thousands of people suffering from depression undiagnosed.
    I don't think it's something I could discuss with a GP or anyone else for that matter if I felt I was suffering with depression, but then I tend to have problems discussing emotions for some reason.
    It's obviously not the most black and white thing to diagnose either.

    Well you see I put it off for as it appears my whole adult life and allowed to build up.

    It wasn't till I attempted suicide, thinking constantly I must die and seeing my parents upset that I thought I just had to go for counselling/GP appointment. I had nothing to lose because I was on the verge of dying anyway in my head.

    But I left it under extreme circumstances to finally take these steps that should have been taken a long long time ago.

    If you feel depressed and/or suicidal, or even if its affecting your life in anyway (work/relationships), you should go. You have nothing to lose. Don't let something secretly affect your quality of life long term. You only live it once, you want to be living it as happy as possible.


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    #2111
    herisson
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    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    There must be thousands of people suffering from depression undiagnosed.
    I don't think it's something I could discuss with a GP or anyone else for that matter if I felt I was suffering with depression, but then I tend to have problems discussing emotions for some reason.
    It's obviously not the most black and white thing to diagnose either.

    Ive been like that all my life! I grew up in a family where discussing your feelings was a no no. You had to put on this happy mask and pretend everything was ok.

    It has affected me greatly and even now i still find it extremely difficult to talk about my feelings and that. It;s a huge problem for me. I broke down with the doctor when i went to her and it was one of the most difficult things that ive had to do. I havent even told my parents, my sister knows but she is the only family member i have told even still we dont talk about it!


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    #2112
    1ZRed
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    I've been up now a bit stressed after a few people having a go at me for being so indecisive about college and not taking things seriously enough. It's been doing my head in!
    I'm saying there's a lot of pressure on me and my family are basically laughing wondering how. Eh I'm gay/bi -working through those issues slowly, can't do the courses I want in other colleges because I can't afford to move to Dublin and I've been on a year out with pretty much no job! Yeah no ****ing pressure buddy!

    Is it really bad now that I'm turning to sex to make myself feel a bit better? Like I'm not having tonnes of it but I have loads of people on the hook. It's basically there if I want it. I'm kind of starting to derive my worth from how many people want to get with me which is really bad and I'm starting to realise it. Like, I like to be wanted and it gives me a bit of a boost. Thing is, I like to have a few people going at once.

    Great, I now have the mentality of a 15 year old slut along with everything else:rolleyes:


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    #2113
    Pedant
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    1ZRed wrote: »
    I've been up now a bit stressed after a few people having a go at me for being so indecisive about college and not taking things seriously enough. It's been doing my head in!
    I'm saying there's a lot of pressure on me and my family are basically laughing wondering how. Eh I'm gay/bi -working through those issues slowly, can't do the courses I want in other colleges because I can't afford to move to Dublin and I've been on a year out with pretty much no job! Yeah no ****ing pressure buddy!

    Is it really bad now that I'm turning to sex to make myself feel a bit better? Like I'm not having tonnes of it but I have loads of people on the hook. It's basically there if I want it. I'm kind of starting to derive my worth from how many people want to get with me which is really bad and I'm starting to realise it. Like, I like to be wanted and it gives me a bit of a boost. Thing is, I like to have a few people going at once.

    Great, I now have the mentality of a 15 year old slut along with everything else:rolleyes:

    I'm going to be honest, turning to sex to make yourself feel better isn't the solution to the problem. I know that you're young and I don't see anything wrong with experimenting at your age but it shouldn't take over your life.

    Your self-worth shouldn't be built on the number of people you have sex with or how many people want to have sex with you. That's degrading yourself, if anything. Have you thought about traveling maybe and spending time on your own so you can have time to think about where you're going and what you want to do?

    You say you wanted to do engineering earlier. I say you should give it a try and take the entrance exams if you think you're confident at the maths. Engineering is well rounded and a very transferable degree. It's certainly better than doing an arts or even business degree in this economic climate. I'm doing a physics degree at the moment, and while I wasn't the best at maths at school but I liked physics, I was still able to work through the maths with some help (there's as much maths in a physics degree as an engineering degree). BTW, I'm not implying that physics is any better than an arts or business degree.


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    #2114
    Captain Graphite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Captain Graphite


    I've been off anti-depressants for about two months now. Mostly things have been ok but tonight was a real FML night. :( If it wasn't for the fact that I'm currently lviing with my parents (in the middle of nowhere) I'd probably have just gone out tonight and drank until someone came over and spoke to me.

    I have problems. I'm able to deal with them a little better now but they're never gonna go away. For me, recovering from depression isn't about forgetting the past or making peace with it, because that's just a pipe dream to me. Instead it's more about being able to carry it around without wanting to curl up in a ball fall asleep and never wake up.

    It's really fúcking difficult. :(


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    #2115
    Pedant
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    I'm off from college now for the summer. I haven't left my house in 2 week, I feel tired, no energy, unable to think straight or concentrate and just down and thinking negatively all the time. I watched a couple of stand-up DVD to get my mood up, but I just get down again afterwards. Are these signs of clinical depression? I'm not the most sociable person either, I'm introvert and I have social anxiety. I could be out doing stuff but I don't feel like it. I just spend my day on jobs sites sending off my CV everywhere. It's disheartening because nobody's replied yet. Luckily I've been offer a few voluntary position just to get experience on the CV.


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    #2116
    shuridunno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭shuridunno


    I was keeping everything in it's stride but finding it so hard to keep up a good front now that one of my the biggest parts of my life is gone. (A family member has emigrated)

    I miss them so much and they're not gone long. I know they'll be back and they'll be fine while away, but it's just hard. I need to pick myself up..AGAIN..but on a brave face and be happy for them.

    It's just hard. I have to throw myself into getting fit, but I don't know where to start.


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    #2117
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    I'm going through a point in time where I'm losing confidence in my mind, can't go outside socially, and end up spending my evenings when I get home from work just lying in bed, the weekends too. I feel brain-dead, ugly, balding. I get maybe a minute or two a week where I get a genuine feeling of 'everything doesn't matter just go do something creative' but a few seconds later it's gone again for another week/month and I just feel like a robot going into work, coming home, forcing amnesia on myself and starting again the next day.

    Like thomas, things aren't going too well socially, the only difference being when I was younger things were great. 25 now, feel close to being a write-off. Honestly if it wasn't for how badly I look I think I could give a good 'stab' at life (for want of a better word) but I look overwhelmingly bad for a 25 year old.

    I haven't really spoken about anything at all for weeks. I get moments where I feel I could change everything but there's a million and one fears stopping me now. Each fear interlocking another, tangling each other and tightening themselves around me so that it's come to a point where I freeze (literally) when in view of other people.

    Hoping for the epiphanies I used to have to come back and get me thinking outside the box again but for now it's pretty tough.


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    #2118
    rain10
    Site Banned Posts: 41 ✭rain10


    Its so relieving to see people describing exactly how I feel every day and not thinking i'm crazy and it will never get better , I dont think i'm allowed post websites here but there was one website/ chatroom for people with depression that really helped me one night , PM me if you want to know the name cause i dont think im allowed advertise here but i would recommend it :confused:


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    #2119
    Pedant
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    rain10 wrote: »
    Its so relieving to see people describing exactly how I feel every day and not thinking i'm crazy and it will never get better , I dont think i'm allowed post websites here but there was one website/ chatroom for people with depression that really helped me one night , PM me if you want to know the name cause i dont think im allowed advertise here but i would recommend it :confused:

    you are, tell us.


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    #2120
    paddy147
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    Ray Darcey has done alot of good to highlight the problems with depresion in this country.

    The HSE should have pumped alot of money into the mental health centres around the country along time ago.

    Instead of just throwing people with severe depression into the likes of St Vincents and St Lukes,they should have given propper counciling services to people with depression and not ignored the problems,like they did for so long.


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    #2121
    paddy147
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    CBT is a great way and method to break the illness of depression.

    A Citrol or Ciprimil tablet can be ok,but the CBT (Cognative Behavoural Therapy) is a brilliant method too.

    This method helps you to turn a sad depressing thought into a positive nice thought and therefore you dont go into a depressive state of mind.Its a fantastic method

    The problem with tablets is that it can be very hard to get off them.If you suddenly stop taking the tablets,you can become at risk of suicide and self harm thoughts from the brain (not good at all).

    I speak from dealing with a family member who suffered with sever depression for along time.


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    #2122
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    Are you sleeping ok?
    Yes.
    Any suicidal thoughts?
    No.
    Medication going ok?
    Yes.
    Ok, see you in three months.


    That's how the typical meeting with one of the many different psychiatrists I can see at any given appointment I have in the public health service goes. When I was private I'd spend half an hour with the doctor with her going over any fears or concerns I had, and trying to see how my previous few months really went. The public health system for mental health is fúcking atrocious in Ireland.


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    #2123
    Mucky.Bucky
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    Not doing very well at all today. Wishing to die, I am.


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    #2124
    neemish
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    Mucky.Bucky wrote: »
    Not doing very well at all today. Wishing to die, I am.


    How has your evening gone?


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    #2125
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Mucky.Bucky wrote: »
    Not doing very well at all today. Wishing to die, I am.

    What are you doing at the moment? Come on here and speak to us if you wish.


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    #2126
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    I managed to get myself out of the house today, went to Malahide for a short while. It's been the first time in a while that I got out to do something other than head to work. I think I was just trying to break the monotony a little.


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    #2127
    cloud493
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    Karsini wrote: »
    I managed to get myself out of the house today, went to Malahide for a short while. It's been the first time in a while that I got out to do something other than head to work. I think I was just trying to break the monotony a little.

    I live in Malahide :D nice isn't it?


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    #2128
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    cloud493 wrote: »
    I live in Malahide :D nice isn't it?

    It is. :) My sister-in-law used to be a Garda there so have been out there a few times.


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    #2129
    Odysseus
    Registered Users Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    Are you sleeping ok?
    Yes.
    Any suicidal thoughts?
    No.
    Medication going ok?
    Yes.
    Ok, see you in three months.


    That's how the typical meeting with one of the many different psychiatrists I can see at any given appointment I have in the public health service goes. When I was private I'd spend half an hour with the doctor with her going over any fears or concerns I had, and trying to see how my previous few months really went. The public health system for mental health is fúcking atrocious in Ireland.

    Yes I understand that and believe evry word you say, but have you stated there are other issues you want to spend time on. Also for those just seeing a psych do you ask to see a psychotherapist/psychologist?


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    #2130
    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,373 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Stuck. In. A. Rut.


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    #2131
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Yes I understand that and believe evry word you say, but have you stated there are other issues you want to spend time on. Also for those just seeing a psych do you ask to see a psychotherapist/psychologist?


    I have scheduled emergency appointments (as have my family for me) and generally had a decent enough conversation with the consultant psychiatrist. However, anyone below that generally is there for so little time they'd be lucky if they see the same person twice. And it's quite obvious that they don't have the time (and if you're being cynical the compassion) to have any in depth conversation with someone and to try and tease out of people what's really going on.

    For a lot of people with mental health issues they feel very insecure and wouldn't make a burden of themselves. They'd see other people as more deserving of the time of the psychiatrist. It's all well and good to tell someone that if they're feeling low they should demand the psychiatrist pays more attention to them, but that's not the way it should work. The psychiatrist should do more to find out what's actually going on, even if those minutes are spent finding out that the person is actually doing very well and has no real need for them. Because I can guarantee you that if they did have the time to do this with everyone, a lot more of the deeper issues and concerns would come to light a lot faster. And I fear that for a lot of people these issues never come to light. I have often come out of an appointment thinking that the psychiatrist didn't care about me, and had to go to family and friends and discuss my issues with them. Issues they are more than willing to discuss but are probably incapable of dealing with.

    As for asking for a psychologist, I have never done so but I now do see a psychologist/therapist privately. And like I said when I was seeing a private psychiatrist she would spend a good half an hour talking with me about what was going on in my life. She appeared to care which was half the battle. I also know many people who have needed a pyschologist but haven't been able to access one through the public health system, because they're not in the public health system and the waiting time to get to see one was incredibly daunting. A few of those have been lucky enough to be in a good university at the time that has readily accessible trained psychologists for dealing with students. Others haven't been that lucky.

    As far as I can see, there are a lot of people who go through repeated ups and downs stretched out over long periods. Just as they get miserable enough to start thinking about getting into the system they get an up period and decide they'll be ok, only for six months or a year down the line to go into a decline again and begin the process of convincing themselves to do something.

    A huge proportion of the mental health battle is convincing someone that they need help. And for a lot of people who very validly need help but aren't in a life or death or emergency situation they don't have the speedy access that is necessary when someone does finally realise they need and want help. And a lot of the time friends and family are left holding onto them while they system slowly gets in place, if it ever does.

    People who are suffering from mental health issues, or even "lesser" concerns that would benefit from therapy often need help the second the realise they need help. Because for a lot of these people the second they realise they need help is when they allow themselves to feel their worst, and when the pain really hits.

    Ireland is not helping people with this, and saying "Did you ask for this help" is doing no-one any good when people have asked for that help and haven't received it fast enough.


    (Also a big up to the psychiatric nurses who are extremely good at doing work they were never trained for but can pick up the pieces for some of the people who do get left behind when they're in the system.)


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