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Sherlock confirms that ‘Irish SOPA’ has been signed into law

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    #242
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Vent your frustration by getting #resignseansherlock trending on Twitter, Post your own message with the hashtag #resignseansherlock or retweet some of the others. The media watch Twitter, it will get our anger out there.
    http://monitter.com/?%20#resignseansherlock


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    #243
    krudler
    Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Robdude wrote: »
    Direct Democracy is nothing but mob-rule.

    It's great when you are part of the majority. But it does nothing to prevent the rights of the minority from being trampled.

    isnt majority vote how regular democracy works?


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    #244
    ottostreet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    Vent your frustration by getting #resignseansherlock trending on Twitter, Post your own message with the hashtag #resignseansherlock or retweet some of the others. The media watch Twitter, it will get our anger out there.
    http://monitter.com/?%20#resignseansherlock


    I see Anonymous are tweeting it for us!


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    #245
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Robdude wrote: »
    Direct Democracy is nothing but mob-rule.

    It's great when you are part of the majority. But it does nothing to prevent the rights of the minority from being trampled.

    Bill of rights.

    Is the current system better in your opinion? Does it prevent the rights of the minority from being trampled? How? Does it prevent the rights of anyone being trampled when once you are in you are in no matter what for x years. Where when Xcunt passes a law there is no recourse?


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    #246
    Vicxas
    Registered Users Posts: 15,261 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    So i take it theres nothing we can do about this?


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    #247
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    I can't steal media anymore,,I am profoundly sad. Damn you Sherlock for making me obey the law.


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    #248
    dillo2k10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭dillo2k10


    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Bondvillain/sean.jpg


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    #249
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,739 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    dillo2k10 wrote: »
    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Bondvillain/sean.jpg
    From the Government that made you vote on the same thing twice because they didn't like what you had to say about it the first go around? HA.

    :(


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    #250
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    dillo2k10 wrote: »
    http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Bondvillain/sean.jpg

    Print off a few hundred and stick them over the upcoming posters for the referendum with a big "Vote no" plastered across his forehead.

    The mans an out and out wanker.


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    #251
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,739 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Print off a few hundred and stick them over the upcoming posters for the referendum with a big "Vote no" plastered across his forehead.

    The mans an out and out wanker.
    It's against the law to tamper with political posters. Simply create your own, and place them next to any offending ones.


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    #252
    bigben121
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭bigben121


    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/3/call-for-resignation-of-irish-minister-sean-sherlock/


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    #253
    krudler
    Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    44leto wrote: »
    I can't steal media anymore,,I am profoundly sad. Damn you Sherlock for making me obey the law.

    you also cant post youtube links on facebook, copy google images onto boards or copy and paste text from news articles from other sites, one of those has already happened and two are a possiblitly under the new laws, it does nothing to prevent piracy at all.


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    #254
    [Deleted User]
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    ****. The only reason I use Facebook now really is to post interesting photos and videos I've found. Well, guess my wall will be looking quite bare from now on.


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    #255
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    krudler wrote: »
    you also cant post youtube links on facebook, copy google images onto boards or copy and paste text from news articles from other sites, one of those has already happened and two are a possiblitly under the new laws, it does nothing to prevent piracy at all.

    For now it is preventing me from pirating and I am sure others are also running scared, because I know my ISP knows when I am downloading media, that is enforcible.

    But quoting news articles and youtube links, although now an infringement under this law I seriously doubt that that is enforcible.

    It would be like the Ryan Giggs saga when he tried to sue Twitter. We will see I suppose.


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    #256
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    44leto wrote: »
    For now it is preventing me from pirating and I am sure others are also running scared, because I know my ISP knows when I am downloading media, that is enforcible.

    But quoting news articles and youtube links, although now an infringement under this law I seriously doubt that that is enforcible.

    It would be like the Ryan Giggs saga when he tried to sue Twitter. We will see I suppose.

    Unless you can see the future or you own every media company in the world how would you know??? have you read the announcement in the feedback section?


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    #257
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Please show your support by getting #resignseansherlock trending on Twitter, Post your own messages with the hashtag #resignseansherlock and retweet some of the others.
    http://monitter.com/?%20#resignseansherlock


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    #258
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Overheal wrote: »
    It's against the law to tamper with political posters. Simply create your own, and place them next to any offending ones.


    Didnt know that--I stand corrected--Do what Overheal says instead...


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    #259
    Corkfeen
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    44leto wrote: »
    For now it is preventing me from pirating and I am sure others are also running scared, because I know my ISP knows when I am downloading media, that is enforcible.

    But quoting news articles and youtube links, although now an infringement under this law I seriously doubt that that is enforcible.

    It would be like the Ryan Giggs saga when he tried to sue Twitter. We will see I suppose.

    Your ISP doesn't actually know when you're downloading media illegally. Unless your IP get's flagged by a media company as a result of torrenting or something. This law is only actually hitting the normal and legitimate users of the internet.....


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    #260
    ottostreet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    #resignseansherlock is the hashtag guys, get tweeting!


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    #261
    Cróga
    Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭Cróga


    strobe wrote: »
    Bill of rights.

    Is the current system better in your opinion? Does it prevent the rights of the minority from being trampled? How? Does it prevent the rights of anyone being trampled when once you are in you are in no matter what for x years. Where when Xcunt passes a law there is no recourse?

    Democracy: the suggestion box for slaves.

    There is no such thing as "the majority" or "the minority". "the majority" does not protect the "the minority". It does not do anything.

    Only individuals exist. Only individuals act. Only individuals have desires, fears, passions and interests. Only individuals can decide and choose. Only individuals can harm or help other individuals.

    Democracy is really about where many individuals initiate violence against other individuals. Direct democracy is just about making that more efficient. 2 men taxing [euphemism for stealing] 1 man is just as immoral as 2 men raping 1 woman.

    I think the solution is the non-aggression principle. Stop initiating violence on peaceful people,in the form of laws, taxation and regulation, to get them to do what you want. That way if "the majority" want to do something then it should only effect "the majority". Don't initiate violence against "the minority" to get them to go along with what "the majority" wants. This is how we protect "the minority".


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    #262
    Standman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    Can someone tell me why Google and Facebook, amongst some of the biggest employers in Dublin, have been completely quiet regarding this issue?


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    #263
    omerin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭omerin


    Standman wrote: »
    Can someone tell me why Google and Facebook, amongst some of the biggest employers in Dublin, have been completely quiet regarding this issue?

    Possibly because it has been blown out of proportion?

    The SS Facebook page is very funny, its at this stage pre the passing of this piece of legislation I would ref a youtube clip on the rent a mob from Blazing Saddles and compare it to his page. Oh wait, I still can :)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvZdVK913I


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    #264
    Jeebus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Jeebus


    Please upvote this thread on Reddit - creating an account takes seconds and could drum a LOT of support.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/qfysp/irish_redditors_need_help_the_irish_sopa_has_been/


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    #265
    Standman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    omerin wrote: »
    Possibly because it has been blown out of proportion?

    The SS Facebook page is very funny, its at this stage pre the passing of this piece of legislation I would ref a youtube clip on the rent a mob from Blazing Saddles and compare it to his page. Oh wait, I still can :)

    That's what I was thinking. Surely if this law is as bad as people are saying it is then these two companies would at the very least made a statement against it. Look at their reaction to SOPA in the US compared to their reaction (or lack of it) to this law in Ireland.


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    #266
    Jeebus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Jeebus


    Also please upvote this thread - http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/qfz3k/irish_redditors_need_help_the_irish_sopa_has_been/


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    #267
    Jeebus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Jeebus


    Standman wrote: »
    That's what I was thinking. Surely if this law is as bad as people are saying it is then these two companies would at the very least made a statement against it. Look at their reaction to SOPA in the US compared to their reaction (or lack of it) to this law in Ireland.

    The Irish market is negligible compared to the American.


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    #268
    Haelium
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Haelium


    Cróga wrote: »
    Democracy: the suggestion box for slaves.

    Off to a great start.
    Cróga wrote: »
    2 men taxing [euphemism for stealing] 1 man is just as immoral as 2 men raping 1 woman.

    I'll just let this speak for itself.


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    #269
    Bigtoe107
    Registered Users Posts: 378 ✭✭Bigtoe107


    ottostreet wrote: »
    #resignseansherlock is the hashtag guys, get tweeting!

    Trending in Ireland now apparently


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    #270
    Standman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    Jeebus wrote: »
    The Irish market is negligible compared to the American.

    It's enough of a market for them to release a simple statement about the issue, which they haven't done to my knowledge.


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    #271
    Jeebus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Jeebus


    Standman wrote: »
    It's enough of a market for them to release a simple statement about the issue, which they haven't done to my knowledge.

    Not really - it's really negligible. There's 5 million people here. More in Greater Manchester. It would be rare for them to release a statement like that, and certainly not for a law for which the full implications are, as of yet, impossible to perceive.


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