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24 arrests in Waterford drugs haul

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  • #52
    deisedave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    Finnbar01 wrote: »
    I have to agree with you here.

    When dealers are taking out, they're usually replaced all most instantly and usually by people that want to establish themselves and are not hesitant in using violence to achieve this.

    I actually agree I hate drugs but the current crop dont tend to be overly violent at the moment.


  • #53
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Thats generally due to the big guys here actually being pretty small fry in comparison to the bigger guys nationwide. They get their stuff from the bigger drug gangs in the country.

    If they get locked up, the bigger drug gangs will just supply someone else.


  • #54
    deisedave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    kryogen wrote: »
    Thats generally due to the big guys here actually being pretty small fry in comparison to the bigger guys nationwide. They get their stuff from the bigger drug gangs in the country.

    If they get locked up, the bigger drug gangs will just supply someone else.
    It will happen sooner or later, the big gangs will come its just a matter of time tbh.


  • #55
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    deisedave wrote: »
    It will happen sooner or later, the big gangs will come its just a matter of time tbh.

    Will come here?


  • #56
    deisedave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    kryogen wrote: »
    Will come here?

    Might not happen anytime soon but the way the country is going it is bound to happen sooner or later.


  • #57
    ciarandoherty77
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭ciarandoherty77


    Bit of a contradiction you wrote there, dont you think!!!!


  • #58
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    deisedave wrote: »
    Might not happen anytime soon but the way the country is going it is bound to happen sooner or later.

    A couple of Dundons were up a while ago alright, apparently looking at buying houses up here, dunno how much truth is really in it, but I would have thought the system will just stay the same, the big guys bring it in, supply it down the line until it reaches the local dealers and the users.

    No need to have a physical presence in every town/city while the local gangs are controlling things and buying from them. I would imagine in the line of work you would want as many buffers between you and the product as possible.


  • #59
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    ciarandoherty77 wrote: »
    Bit of a contradiction you wrote there, dont you think!!!!

    I love that in 5 years you have 2 posts.

    Sorry for going off topic, just think thats amazing!


  • #60
    ciarandoherty77
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭ciarandoherty77


    And your point is!!!!!


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  • #61
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    ciarandoherty77 wrote: »
    And your point is!!!!!


    That its incredibly disciplined to have not posted at all for 3 and a bit years! Your first post was only a while ago. I found it amusing, no offence intended!


  • #62
    tankbarry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭tankbarry


    Well done to the Guard's for once lets hope they get good sentence's. I know of a near miss with somebody having taking a heroin overdose lets hope the guards can make this stick....


  • #63
    marky4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 233 ✭✭marky4


    the dundons are i think looking to buy houses down here, i work in a shop and they were in looking at stuff for the house, and they had no problem in telling me who they were,,


  • #64
    dlofnep
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    They can stay out of here.


  • #65
    deisedave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    marky4 wrote: »
    the dundons are i think looking to buy houses down here, i work in a shop and they were in looking at stuff for the house, and they had no problem in telling me who they were,,

    There are dundons down here from Limerick, who are not drug dealers are you sure it was the drug dealing dundons.


  • #66
    Max Powers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    I was just complaining to my work mate that they should do something about the heroin in the city, good work Gardai


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  • #67
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    deisedave wrote: »
    marky4 wrote: »
    the dundons are i think looking to buy houses down here, i work in a shop and they were in looking at stuff for the house, and they had no problem in telling me who they were,,

    There are dundons down here from Limerick, who are not drug dealers are you sure it was the drug dealing dundons.


    Im sure, I know the dundons you are talking about already living here, but the ones down looking at houses were the ones you dont want anywhere near the place!


  • #68
    deisedave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    kryogen wrote: »
    Im sure, I know the dundons you are talking about already living here, but the ones down looking at houses were the ones you dont want anywhere near the place!

    Jesus I have seen some of the places where they live in limerick and they have truly messed up some of the places up there. Hopefully they are just down visiting and they do not move down here. Last thing we need now in Waterford with the amount of crime already is the biggest crime family in Ireland to move in :(


  • #69
    jo06555
    Registered Users Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭jo06555


    Safe to say no one wants that family moving into their estate , any more names doing the rounds? I definatly know of two names as I see them with my own eyes last night , do the papers and media have the right to publish names now that they charged??


  • #70
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    They can release all the names except the 17 year olds as far as I know


  • #71
    Media999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭Media999


    So theyve been charged and brought to court but still no one is mentioning there names. Posts being deleted where people ask for names. Rediculous. Nice to see boards protecting the identities of Heroin selling scumbags. Wonder will they do the same thing when there sons are on gear.

    Someone PM me the names please.

    Im gonna make sure the scumbags are named and shamed.


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  • #72
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,170 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    longshanks wrote: »
    I've watched the two seasons of Love/Hate and reckon I have a pretty good idea how this whole business works. Would anyone care to join me in an enterprising new adventure? The moneys pretty good, I'm led to believe

    I watched trainspotting once and would like to buy some product from your business when you are established.


  • #73
    CardBordWindow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    Media999 wrote: »
    So theyve been charged and brought to court but still no one is mentioning there names. Posts being deleted where people ask for names. Rediculous. Nice to see boards protecting the identities of Heroin selling scumbags. Wonder will they do the same thing when there sons are on gear.

    Someone PM me the names please.

    Im gonna make sure the scumbags are named and shamed.
    As it's an ongoing court case, until names are officially released, you won't see them on boards. (for legal reasons)
    Just have some patience.


  • #74
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Media999 wrote: »
    So theyve been charged and brought to court but still no one is mentioning there names. Posts being deleted where people ask for names. Rediculous. Nice to see boards protecting the identities of Heroin selling scumbags. Wonder will they do the same thing when there sons are on gear.

    Someone PM me the names please.

    Im gonna make sure the scumbags are named and shamed.



    You know the difference between charged and convicted?


  • #75
    decies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭decies


    All named on WLR one o clock news , one was a foreign gentleman and starter for ten another a well known Waterford traveler family.


  • #76
    CasaBonita
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭CasaBonita


    mike65 wrote: »
    Don't live on Ballybeg, so no.

    Listening to the one o'clock news there on WLR. Only two of the 17 charged were from Ballybeg. From the area myself and was a bit disappointed to see Ballybeg singled out by the media and posters on this forum. :mad:

    Now that all names have been released by the media can we start naming them here?


  • #77
    decies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭decies


    http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2012/03/01/fears-for-more-job-loses-in-waterford-after-24-drug-dealers-are-arrested/


  • #78
    tonc76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    decies wrote: »
    All named on WLR one o clock news , one was a foreign gentleman and starter for ten another a well known Waterford traveler family.

    Can we get the names as they've already been broadcast at this stage?


  • #79
    calvin_zola
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭calvin_zola


    WRE104.jpg


  • #80
    jo06555
    Registered Users Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭jo06555


    No one wants to see names now I see :) no surprises with most of names all seem to be people on the drugs more than likely selling to feeding habit but these are more than likely the type of people who end up robbing peoples houses to pay their dealers.


  • #81
    Typhoon.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Typhoon.


    named on the news@1

    http://www.wlrfm.com/wlrfm-podcasts/news-at-one-podcasts.html


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  • #82
    THEIRISHMOB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭THEIRISHMOB


    tonc76 wrote: »
    Can we get the names as they've already been broadcast at this stage?

    Will probably be in the Munster express friday.


  • #83
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    The guys named, except for 2 or 3 of them, are all addicts.

    More then likely selling small quantities themselves to feed their own habit


  • #84
    DaleB91
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭DaleB91


    Which ones arent addicts?


  • #85
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Oops nvm.


  • #86
    tawdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭tawdy


    3-Dogs3Ps.jpg


  • #87
    Hoffmans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Hoffmans


    bit of a damp squib "operation raptor" may aswell have been better just giving the scoop to whispers news ........


  • #88
    tawdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭tawdy


    tawdy wrote: »
    3-Dogs3Ps.jpg

    whos going to walk us when our master is in jail AGAIN!!!


  • #89
    longshanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    tawdy wrote: »
    3-Dogs3Ps.jpg

    key.jpg

    the-thing-2001-picture-1.jpg


    ?


  • #90
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    As I previously stated, The "War on Drugs" is lost and could never have been won, this latest farce of 2 people charged out of 24 is another indication of this. No doubt the 2 people were of complete and utter insignificance in the grand scale of things.
    Look at the effect that prohibition had in the States, it lined the pockets of complete and utter gangsters. Same bloody difference.


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  • #91
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    O Riain wrote: »
    As I previously stated, The "War on Drugs" is lost and could never have been won, this latest farce of 2 people charged out of 24 is another indication of this. No doubt the 2 people were of complete and utter insignificance in the grand scale of things.
    Look at the effect that prohibition had in the States, it lined the pockets of complete and utter gangsters. Same bloody difference.

    17 people have been charged

    15 males, 1 female, 1 youth.

    the other 7 arrested are apparently going to be going to court soon too.

    Did you misread......everything related to the case?


  • #92
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    kryogen wrote: »
    17 people have been charged

    15 males, 1 female, 1 youth.

    the other 7 arrested are apparently going to be going to court soon too.

    Did you misread......everything related to the case?

    My mistake wasnt going to listen to a podcast and nothing on the other news so just went by a few comments on here. Regardless of my careless misreading how many are easily replaceable junkies only selling to feed their habit and how many are the guys actually bringing the crap into the city?


  • #93
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    O Riain wrote: »
    My mistake wasnt going to listen to a podcast and nothing on the other news so just went by a few comments on here. Regardless of my careless misreading how many are easily replaceable junkies only selling to feed their habit and how many are the guys actually bringing the crap into the city?

    Plenty, but regardless of who was arrested this time, there will always be someone willing to deal the drugs in the city, the suppliers (the ones the main dealers from Waterford get the gear from) dont get touched, until that happens there will be a constant flow of drugs into the city.

    Most of the names listed are addicts first and foremost.


  • #94
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    kryogen wrote: »
    Plenty, but regardless of who was arrested this time, there will always be someone willing to deal the drugs in the city, the suppliers (the ones the main dealers from Waterford get the gear from) dont get touched, until that happens there will be a constant flow of drugs into the city.

    Most of the names listed are addicts first and foremost.

    Suppliers will take years to be caught(if ever) and then guess what? Instantly replaced. Its a grim reality but prohibiting the dirt does more harm than good.


  • #95
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Thats my point, unless it is stopped at source, permanently, it will always be there.


  • #96
    Finnbar01
    Registered Users Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭Finnbar01


    kryogen wrote: »
    Thats my point, unless it is stopped at source, permanently, it will always be there.

    Once you have buyers, you will always have suppliers.


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  • #97
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    You will always have buyers.


  • #98
    M cebee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    havent the us been trying to stop it at source for years
    afghanistan,colombia,panama


  • #99
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    M cebee wrote: »
    havent the us been trying to stop it at source for years
    afghanistan,colombia,panama


    That would depend on who you believe! :D


  • #100
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Columbia is a small success story but there is another 50 or so countries that can grow the stuff.

    Anyway the best approach is to shoot dealers and users decriminalise personal use of "class B" drugs and get all heroin junkies on a subscription to feed their need. Take it from there.


  • #101
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,170 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    mike65 wrote: »
    Columbia is a small success story but there is another 50 or so countries that can grow the stuff.

    Anyway the best approach is to shoot dealers and users decriminalise personal use of "class B" drugs and get all heroin junkies on a subscription to feed their need. Take it from there.

    To hotpress or somethin?


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