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SOPA- now with added ACTA

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  • #52
    Owwmykneecap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    It's more to do with Brian Lenihan guaranteeing "our" insolvent private banks debt.


  • #53
    wtfbenson
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭wtfbenson


    man, chill out, Obama's got this. Here's to 4 more years of him.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/01/14/obama-administration-responds-we-people-petitions-sopa-and-online-piracy


  • #54
    Owwmykneecap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    brewster.jpg


  • #55
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    http://www.thedomains.com/2012/01/14/issa-flawed-sopa-bill-not-headed-to-house-floor-sopa-hearing-for-wednesday-cancelled/


    Looks like, indeed, SOPA and PIPA in their current form are fecked.


  • #56
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    And I say, "hurrah", but it is with trepidation.


  • #57
    powerofscience
    Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭powerofscience


    Justice prevails...for now


  • #58
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    And I say, "hurrah", but it is with trepidation.
    powerofscience wrote: »
    Justice prevails...for now

    I agree with the reserved tone. We'll see what happens next.


  • #59
    ayjayirl
    Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭ayjayirl


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    I agree with the reserved tone. We'll see what happens next.

    Murdoch gone rantin...

    http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/174357/rupert-murdoch-takes-to-new-media-to-slam-new-media-defends-sopa/

    As Brian says - issue dead for now.


  • #60
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    ayjayirl wrote: »
    Murdoch gone rantin...

    http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/174357/rupert-murdoch-takes-to-new-media-to-slam-new-media-defends-sopa/

    As Brian says - issue dead for now.
    This website is temporarily unavailable. Please check back later.

    Looks like they were done under SOPA


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  • #61
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Wow, Wikipedia IS going black with Reddit. That's some news there.


  • #62
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    WHY WON'T YOU STAY DEAD DAMMIT!?


  • #63
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Good luck with that, lads.

    http://torrentfreak.com/google-joins-pipa-sopa-strike-120117/

    EDIT: there's a little pop up on Twitch too...


  • #64
    7nationsoldier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭7nationsoldier


    the blackout is going great! there's thousands of sites down all in protest of sopa/pipa


  • #65
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Well, hopefully it'll get into the casual net users conciousness now, and make the idea of net censorship so repuslive politically it won't be touched on for a while.


  • #66
    Sairus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Sairus


    http://extra-credits.net/episodes/stand-together/

    This has a pretty good point.

    In summary, the Entertainment Software Association (ESA) - that group that Capcom said thay'd stand by - supports SOPA. The ESA run E3 and it's their biggest sources of income, so Extra Credits/Screw Attack/Loading Ready Run/Red 5 Studios are asking that everyone boycott E3 until they change their stance. Failing that, they ask that everyone contact their games news site or company of choice and ask them not to attend.


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  • #67
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    They're asking for reposts of that video, think I shall tonight.


  • #68
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Reposted into boards->Games (though not embedded)


  • #69
    Owwmykneecap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    TIGA are against SOPA

    It's a pity Facebook Google and Twitter didn't have the stones to blackout.

    Switch them off for a week and SOPA would never pass.


  • #70
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120118/11581717456/more-senators-dropping-off-as-co-sponsors-pipa.shtml


    Looks like it's genuinely turning toxic... little bit of history, the day the internet defended itself.


  • #71
    Orim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Stolen from YLYL. Little of irony.

    498585131.jpg?Expires=1326924927&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=l5N15e-Khy5EjiLilGrSJrfZIqiK5Ee1tW-vvDhbPnyyUFoni6tPeA4zhbeffhBAD6~hHqIHxhn8famooljIWohGw0lughOzSdhGtwz5aLa0AkFwxgQpN7Ewa~FFNg1DEETkKSZZCVfRgn4ixkn6lFr1z~G0AkofqBRnhPTUMFw_


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  • #72
    Sairus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Sairus


    Wiki blackout seems to actually have worked.
    My housemate who usually has absolutely no interest in this sort of thing asked me what SOPA was and was quite horrified by my cliff notes version of it.
    I imagine that Wiki message has reached a lot of people.


  • #73
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Sairus wrote: »
    Wiki blackout seems to actually have worked.
    My housemate who usually has absolutely no interest in this sort of thing asked me what SOPA was and was quite horrified by my cliff notes version of it.
    I imagine that Wiki message has reached a lot of people.
    5th most visited site on the net IIRC.

    And as Doom's link shows, it might be working.


  • #74
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    The guy who proposed PIPA has been caught with a background which would make it liable to be taken down in SOPA/PIPA land on his website.

    It'd be funny if it weren't so sad!


  • #75
    ayjayirl
    Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭ayjayirl


    http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/google-joins-wikipedia-in-24-hour-blackout-protest-over-proposed-us-antipiracy-laws-2991940.html

    "Chris Dodd, the chairman and CEO of the Motion Picture Association of America, said in a statement: "A so-called 'blackout' is yet another gimmick, albeit a dangerous one, designed to punish elected and administration officials who are working diligently to protect American jobs from foreign criminals."

    Last month, Dodd argued that if the Chinese government was able block websites then it should be possible in the US too. "

    Queue the Chimerica bandwagon.


  • #76
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    I hate that line of argument. No one will invest in IT start ups if SOPA or PIPA goes through, thus killing one of America's biggest potential growth areas.

    TBH I don't think it'd even help, as the people who pirate will simply find new ways to pirate.


  • #77
    Vyze
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Vyze


    I never thought I'd hear people saying that we need to be more like China in terms of freedom of information.

    If SOPA/PIPA go through, people can easily just go back to friend networks of DVD sharing to get their stuff anyway.


  • #78
    ayjayirl
    Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭ayjayirl


    It seems that the concerted internet effort is starting to pay off at a 'real' level with senators backing out.

    "Several sponsors of the legislation, including Senators Roy Blunt, Chuck Grassley, Orrin Hatch and John Boozman and Marco Rubio, said they were withdrawing their support. Some blamed Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for rushing the Senate version of the bill."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/19/us-internet-protest-idUSTRE80H01U20120119

    ...Nice synopsis for Wednesdays blackouts

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/248401/were_sopapipa_protests_a_success_the_results_are_in.html


  • #79
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-is-dead-smith-pulls-bill/

    Is that it?


  • #80
    Owwmykneecap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    ACTA

    I've just written to every Irish MEP to urge they don't support ACTA, the secret international nasty version of SOPA (I know!)

    Key points:

    Jobs, tech startups Google Facebook Twitter Microsoft HQ in DUBLIN
    Censorship, privacy and hard fought freedoms
    Internet, is not a problem, but a massive opportunity, for new and old media alike
    Democratic and free Europe would new willingly embrace a chinese style internet.
    Tech savy Irish don't support etc.
    Back to hit home on the jobs created by and future jobs in tech industry at threat by ACTA

    And a thank you for your time.

    Should you wish to do the same:

    http://www.europarl.ie/view/en/irish_meps.html

    Emails are all there.


  • #81
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Jesus, some cloak and dagger stuff there.


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  • #82
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    Jesus, some cloak and dagger stuff there.
    They're sneaky fúckers, alright.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citzRjwk-sQ


  • #83
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Gonna mail them all tonight.


  • #84
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Anyone been reading about this in Poland? Major stuff going down, presidents website being DDOSed, Anonymous claiming to have hacked govt machines and have dirt to release on them if they pass ACTA :o


  • #85
    Scavenger XIII
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER


  • #86
    ayjayirl
    Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭ayjayirl


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16628143


  • #87
    Sabre0001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Scary stuff once again - this actually looks worse with customs allowed search laptops and MP3 players. We could all end up like Spooky and down equipment...

    Will be contacting MEPs for sure and have signed a petition or two. I presume the most relevant for me are any in the South (or do I pick the guy from my county?)?

    🤪



  • #88
    Owwmykneecap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    And yet more:

    This time Irish based and to be introduced at the end of January:

    http://www.tjmcintyre.com/2012/01/adrian-weckler-confims-that-irelands.html?m=1

    Boards thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056524769


    TD's Details here. http://www.labour.ie/seansherlock


  • #89
    Sabre0001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Here is a video regarding why you shouldn't fear ACTA and a reddit link...Curious to see people's opinions.



    http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/or8ag/ive_read_the_final_version_of_acta_heres_what_you/

    🤪



  • #90
    ayjayirl
    Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭ayjayirl


    There was a report on rte 9oclock news about the polish government hack in protest to acta. Also mentioned the online protests against sopa & pipa.

    RTE! Who'd have thunk.

    Apparently the polish government are reconsidering their position.


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  • #91
    deckybarr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭deckybarr


    Contact Irish MEP's and voice your opposition to the ACTA bill

    Dublin

    Proinsias De Rossa


    Constituency: Dublin
    European Party: S&D
    Irish Party: Labour

    Address: Room 1410, Liberty Hall, Dublin 1
    Telephone: 01 874 6109

    Email: proinsias.derossa@europarl.europa.eu
    Website: www.derossa.com

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Proinsias De Rossa's priorities.


    Gay Mitchell


    Constituency: Dublin
    European Party: EPP
    Irish Party: Fine Gael

    Address: 192 Upper Rathmines Road, Dublin 6
    Telephone: 01 4961940
    Email: gay.mitchell@europarl.europa.eu
    Website: www.gaymitchell.ie

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Gay Mitchell's priorities.


    Paul Murphy


    Constituency: Dublin
    European Party: GUE/NGL
    Irish Party: Socialist Party

    Address: 150 Pearse Street, Dublin 2
    Telephone: 01 679 5030

    Email: paul.murphy@europarl.europa.eu
    Website:

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Paul Murphy's priorities.


    East

    Liam Aylward


    Constituency: East
    European Party: ALDE
    Irish Party: Fianna Fáil

    Address: Aghaviller, Hugginstown, Co. Kilkenny
    Telephone: 056 776 8703

    Email: liam.aylward@europarl.europa.eu
    Website: www.liamaylward.com

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Liam Aylward's priorities.


    Nessa Childers


    Constituency: East
    European Party: S&D
    Irish Party: Labour

    Address: Ireland East Office, 115 Main Street, Bray, Co. Wicklow
    Telephone: 01 296 2263

    Email: nessa.childers@europarl.europa.eu
    Website: www.nessachilders.ie

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Nessa Childers's priorities.


    Mairead McGuinness


    Constituency: East
    European Party: EPP
    Irish Party: Fine Gael

    Address: Mentrim, Drumconrath, Navan, Co. Meath
    Telephone: 041 685 4633
    Fax: 041 685 4634
    Email: mairead.mcguinness@europarl.europa.eu
    Website: www.maireadmcguinness.ie

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Mairead McGuinness's priorities.


    South

    Brian Crowley


    Constituency: South
    European Party: ALDE
    Irish Party: Fianna Fáil

    Address: Maryborough Lodge, Maryborough Hill, Douglas, Cork
    Telephone: 021 489 6433

    Email: brian.crowley@europarl.europa.eu
    Website: www.briancrowleymep.ie

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Brian Crowley's priorities.


    Seán Kelly


    Constituency: South
    European Party: EPP
    Irish Party: Fine Gael

    Address: 4 Harbour House, Locke Quay, Dublin Road, Limerick
    Telephone: 061 468788

    Email: seankellymep@gmail.com
    Website: www.seankelly.eu

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Seán Kelly's priorities.


    Phil Prendergast


    Constituency: South
    European Party: S&D
    Irish Party: Labour

    Address: Central House, Parnell Street, Clonmel, Co Tipperary
    Telephone: 052 612 4380
    Fax: 052 617 0883
    Email: phil.prendergast@europarl.europa.eu
    Website: www.philprendergast.ie

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Phil Prendergast's priorities.


    North West

    Pat the Cope Gallagher


    Constituency: North West
    European Party: ALDE
    Irish Party: Fianna Fáil

    Address: Main Street, Dungloe, Co. Donegal
    Telephone: 074 9521276
    Email: patthecope.gallagher@europarl.europa.eu
    Website: www.patthecope.com

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Pat the Cope Gallagher's priorities.


    Marian Harkin


    Constituency: North West
    European Party: ALDE
    Irish Party: Independent

    Address: 28 Emmet Place, Union Street, Sligo
    Telephone: 071 914 5890
    Email: marian.harkin@europarl.europa.eu
    Website: www.marianharkin.ie

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Marian Harkin's priorities.


    Jim Higgins


    Constituency: North West
    European Party: EPP
    Irish Party: Fine Gael

    Address: Cloonturk, Kilkelly, Co Mayo
    Telephone: 094 936 7323
    Email: jim.higgins@europarl.europa.eu
    Website: www.jimhiggins.ie

    Click here to view PDF flyer of Jim Higgins's priorities.


  • #92
    ayjayirl
    Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭ayjayirl


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0118/wikepedia-technology.html

    Now an online RTE article. Interesting point about the MAD acronym. Not sure if I agree that the tech community can't live without the media powerhouses. Me thinks he is mixing up content creation with 'old tech' networks.


  • #93
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    ayjayirl wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0118/wikepedia-technology.html

    Now an online RTE article. Interesting point about the MAD acronym. Not sure if I agree that the tech community can't live without the media powerhouses. Me thinks he is mixing up content creation with 'old tech' networks.

    I don't think "new" media needs old to survive- the problem with SOPA and it's ilk is that they would just happen to provide the old powerhouses of content generation with nice, simple ways to shut down the newer ones. New media generates its own content, as well as the less savoury piracy of old- which most people, even those that pirate, admit is wrong, even if through cognitive dissonance they find a way to dismiss it.

    However, in the world we are currently in old media DOES need new- it needs to be able to market virally through youtube, facebook et al. Films and albums can be destroyed or made in seconds from word of mouth or some meme (arrow to the knee made Skyrim what I would guess to be one of the most talked about games ever).

    SOPA and the like would convert sites like youtube to simple channels to market for old media. What they're missing (and they're missing a lot) is this means Youtube would instantly lose all worth and people would move on- the only reason it's there now is because it was an exciting way for people to generate content and create their own individual online presence built around audio visual creativeness (or even through sharing music videos they like for example- I genuinely think music studios are being very silly in not letting it grow organically).

    It was the indivudual freedom to expression and equality of all users that used to make Youtube a great thing. It's already a shadow of its former self since its googlisation.

    Through engaging new media and shifting their models I really think old media could make a hell of a lot more money and provide content people want. A good example of this- how many Dido albums were sold because Eminem sampled her?

    Now, imagine everyone who remixed in the world was free to use your music. How many people would come back to the original and enjoy it then?

    TLDR: Old media needs to cop on and shift to the way the world is now, instead of trying to strangle it. The nets been spread too far now (see what I did there?)


  • #94
    Vyze
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Vyze


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    However, in the world we are currently in old media DOES need new- it needs to be able to market virally through youtube, facebook et al. Films and albums can be destroyed or made in seconds from word of mouth or some meme (arrow to the knee made Skyrim what I would guess to be one of the most talked about games ever).
    I disagree about Skyrim, it would've been huge regardless, but would anyone have seen Snakes on a Plane if not for the internet meme before the release?


  • #95
    7nationsoldier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭7nationsoldier


    SOPA has come to ireland as an ministerial order.
    THIS. CANNOT. PASS.

    http://stopsopaireland.com/


  • #96
    Owwmykneecap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    March this Saturday starting at noon at the spire.

    I've invited many of you on facebook but I suppose this is for everyone else.
    Anything to swell numbers will be good.

    Remember ACTA cannot become law unless it passes the euro parliment.

    Of the responses I've had to my emails (2 of 15) both have been negative towards ACTA. Phil Prendergast outwardly said she will vote against it.


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  • #97
    D4RK ONION
    Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    DoC is this Saturday. I fear you wont get many people going from here.


  • #98
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Run DoC short to oppose ACTA? :pac:

    I mean, it would affect Doom's uploading...


  • #99
    Dundle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭Dundle


    Ireland signed ACTA yesterday.


  • #100
    ayjayirl
    Registered Users Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭ayjayirl


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0220/filtering-technology.html

    FYI :)


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