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British Army tattoo opinions please

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Gingko


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    I beg to differ but I know people that have used Q switched lasers and have scarred--Its probably a lot less than the old style lasers though.Its also down to the operator.Q switched lasers--well all lasers work by heating the tattoo up to suoer hight temps and breaking it down that way.In the hands of a skilled operator there is virtually no scarring but I have seen bad scarring from q-switched.




    Again in my opinion its down to the operator.Some people I know have said it was the worst pain they ever felt--others say it was a breeze.



    Now theres the time for that new tattoo.

    Look I only popped on the thread in order to give a different view.And of course Im going to be biased towards a cover up rather than laser :):)

    Whatever the op decides I hope you get accepted and make a new career out of it.

    Fair enough! I'm not having a go at you by the way! The people removing my tattoo are well trained and qualified. It's going well!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Gingko wrote: »
    Fair enough! I'm not having a go at you by the way! The people removing my tattoo are well trained and qualified. It's going well!


    Sorry--Ididnt mean to come across like that and Im glad to hear that its going well--If you dont mind when its done would you pop some pics up in the tattoo forum.We get a lot of requests over there for removal enquiries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    deisedave wrote: »
    Conas a tu ta for the help :D

    Yeah I dont think I should have much trouble alot of good replies on here and also on arrse, Only one muppet on this thread (trendyvicar)

    Oooooooooooooh - touched a nerve or what!

    If you join The RIR you can let us all know if the rumours about UDR/UVF joint membership was true or not, and to what extent...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    Perhaps The Irish schools careers people should brief any budding British soldiers to avoid covering themselves in Irish tattoos. At the very least this would avoid the future embarrassment of explaining why someone who loves The Republic of Ireland so much would want to go and kill people for The British Crown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    Any places in Waterford that do tattoo removal ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    Perhaps The Irish schools careers people should brief any budding British soldiers to avoid covering themselves in Irish tattoos. At the very least this would avoid the future embarrassment of explaining why someone who loves The Republic of Ireland so much would want to go and kill people for The British Crown.

    How are you not banned yet lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    deisedave wrote: »
    How are you not banned yet lol

    Oh, you're so funny deise! You'll need that sense of humour when you're out killing for The British Crown.

    RULE BRITANNIA!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Just cover it with another tattoo..nice big union jack should do the job :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    If the Taliban can get away with Aston Villa tattoos, I'm pretty sure a British soldier having an Ireland tattoo will be no problem.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭swordofislam


    Get a Union Jack on top of it.
    Or you could join the Ivory Coast Army.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    Get a Union Jack on top of it.
    Or you could join the Ivory Coast Army.

    I am not british and have only been to england once, I am born and bred Irish but because of the Ira using the tri colour as their flag some people forget that it is also the countries flag. Even tho people in Waterford and most southern places do not see it in any way as anything but the countries flag, there is people in northern Ireland when they see a tri-colour think that its a secterian tattoo and could take offense to it.


    I love the tattoo and love Ireland, I also have no problem with the British they are our neighbours and if I cant get a job or join the Irish army I would be happy to try get into their army.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Gingko


    French Legion?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭swordofislam


    It pays €16,000 a year. If you are willing to emigrate to find work there must be better paid work that you can get. You've to work 6 days a week for that as well.

    Why don't you join the RAF or the Royal Navy at least you're pretty much guaranteed a trade out of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    It pays €16,000 a year. If you are willing to emigrate to find work there must be better paid work that you can get. You've to work 6 days a week for that as well.

    Why don't you join the RAF or the Royal Navy at least you're pretty much guaranteed a trade out of them.

    Because I have always liked the Army and I got sea sick :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    It pays €16,000 a year.

    Its a career not a "job" plus you pay peanuts for a roof over your head and a bit more for 3 hot meals a day. Medical treatment is swift and some of the best standards in the world.

    16k per year goes quite far when you know your are secure and the pay rapidly rises.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭User Friendly


    Dont ye mean £16,000 :confused:

    That aside,i think its very poor money. best of luck dave!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    deisedave wrote: »
    ....there is people in northern Ireland when they see a tri-colour think that its a secterian tattoo and could take offense to it....

    don't worry about that - if you end up being visible to people in NI they are more likely to take offence at the rifle you're carrying than the tattoo you've got under your uniform.

    if you join an Irish regiment - IG or RIR - you may get stick, but not more than a few days worth, if you join any other units no one will give a mouse-sized poo.

    no one outside - and few enough inside - the Irish units gives a flying toss about NI. anyone who does, or claims they do is slightly undermined by the fact that the IG and RIR are based permamently in the sectarian ghettos of Windsor and Shropshire, and are unofficially not liable to serve in NI. if they cared that much, they wouldn't have joined those units

    someone might ask you why you've got the Italian flag on your arm, but thats about it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    OS119 wrote: »
    don't worry about that - if you end up being visible to people in NI they are more likely to take offence at the rifle you're carrying than the tattoo you've got under your uniform.

    if you join an Irish regiment - IG or RIR - you may get stick, but not more than a few days worth, if you join any other units no one will give a mouse-sized poo.

    no one outside - and few enough inside - the Irish units gives a flying toss about NI. anyone who does, or claims they do is slightly undermined by the fact that the IG and RIR are based permamently in the sectarian ghettos of Windsor and Shropshire, and are unofficially not liable to serve in NI. if they cared that much, they wouldn't have joined those units

    someone might ask you why you've got the Italian flag on your arm, but thats about it...

    He, he. You don't have a clue do you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    FAO deisedave:

    Have you got a flute mate?

    rir+orange+2.jpg

    rir.jpg

    :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    FAO deisedave:

    Have you got a flute mate?

    rir+orange+2.jpg

    rir.jpg

    :D:D:D
    Yeah I have a flute, I go to N. Ireland every 12th of July to play it. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    Here's another couple you'll like from Afghanistan:

    rir+afghanistan4.jpg

    The blue on white flag is the YCV flag - 1912 or 1966 on - take your pick...

    rir+afghanistan.jpg

    Ah, poor Bobby, will they never let it go? Surely someone has told them nobody cares about NI?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    Last one (for now):

    rir.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    Last one (for now):

    rir.jpg

    Yeah no doubt those lads look like a bunch of knuckle draggers but your anti British stance and your total hate for anything British makes you just as bad as the no surrender lads above there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    deisedave wrote: »
    Yeah no doubt those lads look like a bunch of knuckle draggers but your anti British stance and your total hate for anything British makes you just as bad as the no surrender lads above there.

    I hate to tell you this mate, but The UK Armed Forces have always recruited 'knuckle draggers' - they love them in fact.

    Wellington didn't call his Irish troops the scum of the earth for nothing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭shaneybaby


    I hate to tell you this mate, but The UK Armed Forces have always recruited 'knuckle draggers' - they love them in fact.

    Wellington didn't call his Irish troops the scum of the earth for nothing...

    He referred to all enlisted men in the army as scum after they broke ranks at the Battle of Victoria.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army_during_the_Napoleonic_Wars#cite_note-Hay7-4

    The Duke himself was irish born.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    shaneybaby wrote: »
    He referred to all enlisted men in the army as scum after they broke ranks at the Battle of Victoria.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army_during_the_Napoleonic_Wars#cite_note-Hay7-4

    The Duke himself was irish born.

    "being born in a stable does not make one a horse"

    Don't you just love wiki?

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    shaneybaby wrote: »
    He referred to all enlisted men in the army as scum after they broke ranks at the Battle of Victoria.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army_during_the_Napoleonic_Wars#cite_note-Hay7-4

    The Duke himself was irish born.

    "being born in a stable does not make one a horse"

    Don't you just love wiki?

    :D

    He was born in Dublin, that makes him irish. Regardless of what he might have preferred to believe so your reply is moot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    Owryan wrote: »
    He was born in Dublin, that makes him irish. Regardless of what he might have preferred to believe so your reply is moot.

    Do you reckon? So if a woman from Ireland and her hubby are on holiday in France and she gives birth there, the child is French? Mmmm...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    Do you reckon? So if a woman from Ireland and her hubby are on holiday in France and she gives birth there, the child is French? Mmmm...


    The Duke Of Wellingtons family had been in Ireland hundreds of yrs. They were not on holiday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Which part of "the country you are born in" is the country of your nationality. You might not like or ever describe your self as such but bar you climb back into ur mother n demand she squeeze you out in a country of your choosing you dont have much choice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Owryan wrote: »
    He was born in Dublin, that makes him irish. Regardless of what he might have preferred to believe so your reply is moot.

    The Duke of Wellington never actually said it either. It was said about him by Daniel O'Connell and became an urban myth.

    This is why Wikipedia should not be taken as fact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    Owryan wrote: »
    Which part of "the country you are born in" is the country of your nationality. You might not like or ever describe your self as such but bar you climb back into ur mother n demand she squeeze you out in a country of your choosing you dont have much choice.

    Hmmmm. Certainly one point of view...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    The Duke of Wellington never actually said it either. It was said about him by Daniel O'Connell and became an urban myth.

    This is why Wikipedia should not be taken as fact.

    Although Wiki does confirm your post's findings. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    Although Wiki does confirm your post's findings. :D

    Ok considering alot of your overall posts from boards is on this topic, I think I got the answers I was looking for and if you want to hate the British open up your own thread.

    Moderator please close topic thank you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    Anyway, as promised, here's another RIR holiday snap for deisedave:

    3478920.jpg

    Rising Sons of Basra! Cool bannerrette, complete with orange lily crown. The collarettes are authentic in this case - one's Orange Lodge and the other I'm not sure about - could be Orange or Apprentice Boys - probably Orange. Good of The RIR to make space for the regalia in the journey to Iraq. Still, look after the men and all that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Owryan wrote: »
    Which part of "the country you are born in" is the country of your nationality. You might not like or ever describe your self as such but bar you climb back into ur mother n demand she squeeze you out in a country of your choosing you dont have much choice.

    Hmmmm. Certainly one point of view...


    Hmmmm racist bigot troll is a point of view as well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    Owryan wrote: »
    Hmmmm racist bigot troll is a point of view as well

    "racist bigot troll" sounds more like a description than a point of view to me, still...


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 Gooleybag


    trendyvicay is right the Royal Irish are all evil orangemen

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmlQ_k3aIT0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    Gooleybag wrote: »
    trendyvicay is right the Royal Irish are all evil orangemen

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmlQ_k3aIT0

    Interesting video there mate. Ken Maginnis (Baron Maginnis of Drumglass) was, off course, not only a Unionist MP, but also a UDR Major with ten years service. Ironically, Ken was never an Orangeman, although he was an Apprentice Boy.

    Hard as nails. ;)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    Anyway, as promised, here's another RIR holiday snap for deisedave:

    3478920.jpg

    Rising Sons of Basra! Cool bannerrette, complete with orange lily crown. The collarettes are authentic in this case - one's Orange Lodge and the other I'm not sure about - could be Orange or Apprentice Boys - probably Orange. Good of The RIR to make space for the regalia in the journey to Iraq. Still, look after the men and all that...



    More lies, these pics are of the Irish Guards in Basra, they sent up a mock orange parade with Catholic soldiers as rioters for a laugh.

    You are totally dishonest.

    http://www.orange-pages.tk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=35

    Soldiers keep it real with Basra Twelfth
    By Diana Rusk
    BRITISH soldiers in Iraq have held a tongue-in-cheek Twelfth of July demonstration complete with nationalist protesters and riot police.

    Members of the Irish Guards held the parade at their base in Basra after an Orange lodge sent them sashes and orange lilies.

    The images posted on internet forum Bebo show orange men from 'Basrah LOL 1 accompanied by a flute band called The Rising Sons of Basrah 2007.

    They march past mock RUC officers dressed in full riot gear and a group of mock nationalist protesters holding Irish flags in opposition to the parade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭mlumley


    Go for it lad, go to an Irish regement and no bother. Most army units have Irish lads in so dont worry. Have a good career.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    More lies, these pics are of the Irish Guards in Basra, they sent up a mock orange parade with Catholic soldiers as rioters for a laugh.

    You are totally dishonest.

    http://www.orange-pages.tk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=35

    Soldiers keep it real with Basra Twelfth
    By Diana Rusk
    BRITISH soldiers in Iraq have held a tongue-in-cheek Twelfth of July demonstration complete with nationalist protesters and riot police.

    Members of the Irish Guards held the parade at their base in Basra after an Orange lodge sent them sashes and orange lilies.

    The images posted on internet forum Bebo show orange men from 'Basrah LOL 1 accompanied by a flute band called The Rising Sons of Basrah 2007.

    They march past mock RUC officers dressed in full riot gear and a group of mock nationalist protesters holding Irish flags in opposition to the parade.

    Why do you say I'm totally dishonest? Do you think I've created those photos myself?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    More lies, these pics are of the Irish Guards in Basra, they sent up a mock orange parade with Catholic soldiers as rioters for a laugh.

    You are totally dishonest.

    http://www.orange-pages.tk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=35

    Soldiers keep it real with Basra Twelfth
    By Diana Rusk
    BRITISH soldiers in Iraq have held a tongue-in-cheek Twelfth of July demonstration complete with nationalist protesters and riot police.

    Members of the Irish Guards held the parade at their base in Basra after an Orange lodge sent them sashes and orange lilies.

    The images posted on internet forum Bebo show orange men from 'Basrah LOL 1 accompanied by a flute band called The Rising Sons of Basrah 2007.

    They march past mock RUC officers dressed in full riot gear and a group of mock nationalist protesters holding Irish flags in opposition to the parade.

    Your man's tattoo will add to the authenticity then won't it?

    LOL
    LOL
    LOL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    Just found this article concerning Catholics in RIR:
    A CATHOLIC ex-soldier has claimed he attempted suicide after suffering sectarian abuse by Protestant comrades, a Fair Employment heard yesterday.

    Patrick Murphy, 33, originally from West Belfast, alleges that after he joined the Royal Irish Regiment in 1996 fellow soldiers left bullets and sectarian notes in his locker. At one stage they even made abusive calls to his wife.

    The Ministry of Defence is denying unlawful discrimination on the grounds of religious belief or political opinion.

    Mr Murphy told the tribunal in Belfast his torment started when he was posted to barracks in Portadown, Co Armagh.

    Soldiers there had discovered he was a Catholic despite an effort to cover up his religion.

    Life was so bad that when he was on 24-hour rapid response duty he ended up sleeping in the back of a Land Rover because of the abuse he endured in the barracks.

    And he said that when he joined the regiment a recruiting sergeant told him to change his name to hide his religion.

    Mr Murphy took the advice and became known as Paul Murphy, his dog tags were even stamped to indicate he was Protestant.

    Mr Murphy said: "The sergeant said it was advisable and safer to change my name. He believed it was in my own interests to change my name because it would be known I was a Catholic and I'd get a hard time."

    In October 1998 he tried to kill himself by running a hose from the exhaust of his car into the vehicle.

    The MoD claimed that after Mr Murphy made one complaint about sectarian remarks in 1998 he did not pursue the matter.

    An MoD statement said: "Mr Murphy has had a chequered past, he at times can be unreliable and his loyalty has fluctuated."

    But the tribunal was told that when Mr Murphy took compassionate leave in 1996 because his wife had cancer, his record had been described as "exemplary".

    The hearing continues today.

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/My+hell+by+Catholic+RIR+soldier.-a095136322

    Does anyone know how this case was resolved?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    Just found this article concerning Catholics in RIR:



    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/My+hell+by+Catholic+RIR+soldier.-a095136322

    Does anyone know how this case was resolved?

    I have asked you to create your own thread if you want to discuss your anti Brit stance so please get out of my thread and do not post again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    deisedave wrote: »
    I have asked you to create your own thread if you want to discuss your anti Brit stance so please get out of my thread and do not post again.

    Everything I have posted has been completely relevant to your opening comments.

    I don't have an "anti Brit stance". Some of my best friends are English.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    Everything I have posted has been completely relevant to your opening comments.

    I don't have an "anti Brit stance". Some of my best friends are English.

    "As of mid 2011 the British Army employs 110,210 regulars (which includes the 3,860 Brigade of Gurkhas) and 33,100 territorials for a combined component strength of 143,310 soldiers. In addition there are 121,800 regular reserves of the British Army." from wiki

    So with those huge numbers obviously there is going to be a few aholes like any other walk of life, they are people and the majority are lovely people you are always going to get a few bad apples now :)

    You have not helped at all in this thread and the majority of your posts on this site are on this thread now please go away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭trendyvicar


    deisedave wrote: »
    "As of mid 2011 the British Army employs 110,210 regulars (which includes the 3,860 Brigade of Gurkhas) and 33,100 territorials for a combined component strength of 143,310 soldiers. In addition there are 121,800 regular reserves of the British Army." from wiki

    So with those huge numbers obviously there is going to be a few aholes like any other walk of life, they are people and the majority are lovely people you are always going to get a few bad apples now :)

    You have not helped at all in this thread and the majority of your posts on this site are on this thread now please go away.

    I will post on any subject I see fit - including this one. That is what a discussion forum is for.

    Now, could you explain which type of British soldier you regard as an "ahole" or a "bad apple"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Sundew


    Deisedave: After coming across this thread I Just wanted to wish you the best of luck in wanting to do something with your life.
    My first cousin is serving in Afghanistan at the mo and my husbands Uncle served with both the Irish army and British army. He got sick of the Irish army and emigrated to England but couldn't shake off his military leanings so joined up again :D

    One final bit of advise "DON'T FEED THE TROLL" ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    Sundew wrote: »
    Deisedave: After coming across this thread I Just wanted to wish you the best of luck in wanting to do something with your life.
    My first cousin is serving in Afghanistan at the mo and my husbands Uncle served with both the Irish army and British army. He got sick of the Irish army and emigrated to England but couldn't shake off his military leanings so joined up again :D

    One final bit of advise "DON'T FEED THE TROLL" ;)

    lol its hard not too, sucks that you cant have a serious conversation without someone coming in with their anti-bit stance. But yeah I pray I get in I am not unfit or anything but I just dont think I am fit enough yet.


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