Mexico City Rocked By 6.0 Quake

blackgold>> wrote: »

Harp weapons look it up

I Googled it and I still see no viable or reliable argument for its existence or use to create an earthquake, certainly not a geologic scientific argument for its application, just non-scientific hocus pocus rumour, which the web is full of, as are science fiction novel and Hollywood fiction. Google sourced quote:

Project HARP, short for High Altitude Research Project, was a joint project of the United States Department of Defense and Canada's Department of National Defence created with the goal of studying ballistics of re-entry vehicles at low cost; whereas most such projects used expensive (and failure-prone) rockets, HARP used a very large gun to fire the models to high altitudes and speeds. Started in 1961, it was created largely due to lobbying from Gerald Bull, a controversial but highly successful ballistics engineer who went on to head the project.

Source: http://www.123exp-warfare.com/t/03804153397/

How a theoretical HARP gun (if one ever existed or worked) could be used to trigger a predictable earthquake is a matter of Hollywood fiction, not geologic science. Where would the HARP gun fire from? Outer space? If outer space, how could you silence thousands of academic and professional astronomers in dozens of nations from reporting it?

Or buried in the ground in Mexico? We are not talking about a large water pistol, but something the size of a rail gun. Not only that, there would have been a significant pre-shock anomaly recorded at Cal Tech immediately before the quake by the so-called impact of the HARP gun that could not be hidden if such an extraordinary event were to occur.

How many times would this hypothetical HARP gun have to fire to trigger an real earthquake? How could you guarantee that just one shot would do it, given that the science of earthquakes still has a long way to go before reliable prediction can be achieved? Furthermore, how do you know that a HARP gun would trigger an earthquake? The Earth is blasted and drilled all the time exploring for mineral deposits. Why would this so-called hypothetical gun work differently and be a source of an earthquake, when other mining activities have not? Fiction at best for a film plot! Not science!

Cal Tech studies pre-shock activity in their attempts to develop an algorithm to predict earthquakes, and this would have already been reported by them. I can just see the host of Cal Tech (and other scholarly institution researchers) racing to report the anomaly, just so they could claim to be first when they "publish or perish" the findings! No one could silence the thousands of publication-greedy academics, NGO or independent geological researchers that work in several different nations. To assume that there is a world order that could silence these researchers in different nations is a sad joke that would fail the humour forum, much less something that an editor of a respected peer-reviewed scientific journal or geological society would endorse.

mysterious wrote: »

You have been watched for millions of years, its the reason your still here.

To amuse the gods on top of Mt Olympus? "They" enjoyed playing with humans in Greek myth and related ancient literature? This is an old plot found in pre-scientific Greek literature of the capriciousness and arbitrariness of the gods that look down upon us? The human amusement park Earth? The conspiracy of the gods to humour themselves watching human folly, occasionally interacting with humans just for fun?

Or are "they" watching us from above to see if we evolve into something good or evil (by their esoteric standards)? Observing and testing us lowly humans to see if we measure up to the norms of the universe? This is a more recent plot than found in old Greek literature, which has appeared in Hollywood film twice now, with the remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still?"

mysterious wrote: »

Its time for us take control of our reality.

In Greek myth this would the the action of a lesser god named Prometheus? Now, whom is to be the contemporary hero or heroine that steps forward to save the day at the last second, like the fiery chariot that all of a sudden appeared to capriciously save Media in Greek myth? Some contemporary religions have their apocalyptic "savior?"

But which "reality" are you suggesting? There are many realities, given the widely diverse orientations of theologies and philosophies, as well as those suggested by the scientific method? Of course, you can follow what W.I. Thomas suggested from his research: "If you believe something to be real, it will be real in its consequences" (for you)?

blackgold>> wrote: »

Ofcourse not, we also need peer reviewed journals and make it snappy !:D

Of course there is an occasional junk piece that appears in such medium, but no way as frequently as in the popular sensationalist news media, the web, or the red tops at checkout that many refer to as sources of their information? This has to do with epistemology, or how do you know what you know, and how valid and reliable is that knowledge? Would an article that relies on the scientific method, and is challenged by scientific scholars, be a bit more valid and reliable than the popular media? What I like about the scientific approach is that it never proves anything, but only "suggests" in the light of past and current evidence, unlike some preachers from the public pulpit that claim to know-it-all without any doubt.

blackgold>> wrote: »

Have 10 or 12

I wish!:D But I have to function somehow tomorrow reading boring textbooks, and I would fall asleep for sure!

blackgold>> wrote: »

I've read on a few forums they're going to cancel flights to mexico tomorrow.

Yikes! They reported about 20 confirmed cases in California earlier this morning (Monday... it's only half past 8PM at the moment). It was discovered that several had traveled by plane from Ciudad de México and brought it with them. Secondary cases are now being reported (those not having been exposed to the flu in Ciudad de México).