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TV's with MPEG4 DTT decoder

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    #32
    STB
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    Actually Kris its the opposite way round. The Mpeg4 version is cheaper than the Mpeg2. Its a common misconception that MPEG4 is dearer. Much the same.


    THE MPEG2 and WRONG VERSION FOR IRISH DTT MARKET
    Philips 37" LCD-TV 37PFL7603D/10 --Full HD, Ambilight, DVB-T, Pixel Plus
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    Price and availability (komplett.ie) € 1,106.99(€ 1,098.99 + € 8.00 PRF*)

    THE MPEG4 and RIGHT VERSION FOR IRISH DTT MARKET

    Philips - 37PFL7603H/10 - Téléviseur LCD 37" - 16/9 - Full HD 1080p - TNT HD intégrée - Pixel+3HD - HDNM - Ambilight - stéréo 2x15 W - 30 000:1 - 5 ms - HDMI - USB
    de Philips Prix : EUR 969,96 plus EUR 49,90 de frais de livraison
    http://www.amazon.fr/gp/offer-listing/B0018SCK60/ref=dp_olp_2/403-1884509-1594053

    As soon as phillips perhaps change there Irish website to feature products that should be sold here rather than just transpose the UK site to the IE the better for the consumer and no doubt the retailer, because they DO have the products as evidenced from the French version of their site.

    http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/en/ie/consumer/cc/_categoryid_TV_CA_IE_CONSUMER/

    http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/fr/fr/consumer/cc/_categoryid_TV_CA_FR_CONSUMER/


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    #33
    TheDriver
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    John Dough wrote: »
    I have to disagree with you there mate as thousands of households are receiving their analogue signal in VHF on cable systems and set top aerials at the moment so they NEED VHF/UHF tuners.


    .

    Indeed lots do get VHf but also lot get UHF only so the common misconception that UK tvs don't work here is incorrect, once someone has checked they use uhf where they live and the tv has a uhf tuner, then they are on the pigs back!


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    #34
    Scottish paddy
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    Is it not scandalous that we have to have this thread? The government/Comreg, once the Irish DTT standard was decided, should have notified manufactures and retailers, and also after a certain date prohibited the import of television sets with tuners that will never work on the Irish system. Consumers are being allowed to purchase expensive sets at the moment only to have to replace the tuner (with a STB) in a year or two when it could have been avoided!
    We urgently need a logo for Irish DTT (like Freeview, which is plastered all over new sets in the UK) to let Irish consumers know that what they are buying today will be compatible in the future.
    May I suggest something like: Digi 4for you. Or Digi 4Ireland. There should be prominent use of the figure 4 to emphasize MPEG4 (and differentiate from UK MPEG2 sets).
    Emails to Comreg, Dept. Comms?


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    #35
    TheDriver
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    Very good Scottish Paddy, such a small manufacturing change wouldn't be a massive deal and would ensure better play for people purchasing tvs. Scandulous is right and its even difficult to establish what decoder is in tvs, e.g. panasonic z81 series according to pana can't decode mpeg4 yet people here can get current transmissions (which i presume is due to the sat decoder having mpeg4 and possibly doing the decoding for terrestrial also)


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    #36
    BeerNut
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    "MPEG4: To be sure. To be sure".

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    #37
    TheDriver
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    Its gas how people are paying big money for sets to future proof yet don't have the mpeg4, the most important future proof part!
    Having said that, most people will have sky inputting and never have an aerial


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    #38
    Mossy Monk
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    Surely if the tv has a scart socket then it is future proofed.


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    #39
    STB
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    Scottish paddy wrote: »
    Is it not scandalous that we have to have this thread? The government/Comreg, once the Irish DTT standard was decided, should have notified manufactures and retailers,

    They did.


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    #40
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Scottish paddy wrote:
    May I suggest something like: Digi 4for you. Or Digi 4Ireland. There should be prominent use of the figure 4 to emphasize MPEG4 (and differentiate from UK MPEG2 sets).
    Emails to Comreg, Dept. Comms?
    MPEG4for you ?


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    #41
    Glenbhoy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Glenbhoy


    TheDriver wrote: »
    Its gas how people are paying big money for sets to future proof yet don't have the mpeg4, the most important future proof part!
    Having said that, most people will have sky inputting and never have an aerial

    I was wondering about that myself, at the moment it doesn't seem likely that we'll have digital transmission for quite some time, and even when we do, what will be available on it? Will we not still be subscribing to various providers anyway?


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    #42
    mumhaabu
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    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    Surely if the tv has a scart socket then it is future proofed.

    Its HDMI nowadays I believe and there different versions with 1.3x being the latest x represent several a-c specifications available so it is also unfriendly to your average joe soap who has only two brain cells dedicated to technology.


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    #43
    Mossy Monk
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    HDMI is an option but I bet all set top boxes will have scart sockets.


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    #44
    a bientot
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    Over the past few days a glut of companies have (re)launched their MPEG4 tv sets in France and references to HD has been removed from ALL sets UNLESS the tv set IS an MPEG4 .....the new sign is HDTV.
    There are no end of articles appearing in the specialist press in France.....example below:

    http://www.numerama.com/magazine/11446-Televiseurs-le-HD-Ready-est-mort-vive-les-HDTV-et-HDTV-1080p.html

    See the continually being updated list of HDTV sets......
    Pixmania.fr is selling tv Philips tv sets more cheaply than in the U.K. even with VAT at 20.5 against the U.K.'s 15%. Some sets I note are 'out of stock' on the U.K. webpage.....

    The interest is increasing here also ... a far cry from a thread I started in 2007 advising all to wait for MPEG4 tv sets. At that time I was told that literally everyone in Ireland was on cable or dish so this advice was deemed totally irrelevant.

    Henceforth anyone interested in buying a brand new tv set (MPEG2), generally available in Ireland, should negotiate the price downwards.....


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    #45
    Myxomatosis
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    Right so I'm looking to get a HD LCD TV before or after Christmas.

    The ultimate holy grail would be an MPEG4 DVB-T set with built in FreeSat tuner for under 1000 but that's probably a very long shot.

    Was just wondering about the whole middleware aspect of it. Anyone have an option on a model or brand which would be best able to handle the EPG and interactivity? Models with upgradable firmwares etc?

    Is it worth spending a few hundred quid extra to get the DVB-T MPEG4 model (which may not support the full EPG / interactivity)

    or go with a standard model and use the saved money to get the proper set top box once it comes out?


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    #46
    Zonda999
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    You could get a tv with freesat 1080p tv with mpeg4 for under 1000e. The Panasonic '81 range include all this. They used to only come in plasma but now, theyve extended it to lcd too. The 32" lcd(Still 1080p) should be around 850e and the 37" should be around 950e. The 42" plasma is around 1100e


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    #47
    TheDriver
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    I'd say the 37" is more 1000 mark at least to be honest from my calculations, 32" is 850 ish, depending on exchange rate. 5 year warranty at moment makes them seem a great buy, awaiting delivery of my 32"


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    #48
    TheDriver
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    Myxomatosis wrote: »
    Right so I'm looking to get a HD LCD TV before or after Christmas.

    The ultimate holy grail would be an MPEG4 DVB-T set with built in FreeSat tuner for under 1000 but that's probably a very long shot.

    Was just wondering about the whole middleware aspect of it. Anyone have an option on a model or brand which would be best able to handle the EPG and interactivity? Models with upgradable firmwares etc?

    Is it worth spending a few hundred quid extra to get the DVB-T MPEG4 model (which may not support the full EPG / interactivity)

    or go with a standard model and use the saved money to get the proper set top box once it comes out?


    Yours guess is as good as ours. Some tvs come with mpeg4 (some unconfirmed officially but people can pick it up). If you can get it for the same price, then why not but if it costs a good bit more then don't bother. Depends on type of tv wanted, z81 from panasonic appears to have it along with a HD freesat satellite tuner so lots of your money if you want free channels, sony W seems to also have it but again beware when buying.


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    #49
    Zaphod
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    Panasonic 32LZD81 £681/€800
    http://www.flattelly.co.uk/shop/panasonic-tx32lzd81-freestat-full-1080p-p-2539.html

    Panasonic 37LZD81 £754/€887
    http://www.teleworldplc.com/model.asp?Detail=Yes&ModelID=751&Show=2&tduid=665dec74ad998d5b93bcbc87755fd006


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    #50
    Zonda999
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    Zaphod wrote: »
    Panasonic 37LZD81 £754/€887
    http://www.teleworldplc.com/model.asp?Detail=Yes&ModelID=751&Show=2&tduid=665dec74ad998d5b93bcbc87755fd006

    Hom much is delivery over here on that one??


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    #51
    christo82
    Registered Users Posts: 737 ✭✭✭christo82


    What does the TNT logo on this TV mean? I know TNT is French TV but it doesn't mean it has a built in mpeg4 tuner(according to the sony website it only has mpeg2)?

    Anyone bought this TV? It is €669 in Tesco at the moment with an additional 30% back in Clubcard vouchers(€469).


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    #52
    The Cush
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    christo82 wrote: »
    What does the TNT logo on this TV mean? I know TNT is French TV but it doesn't mean it has a built in mpeg4 tuner(according to the sony website it only has mpeg2)?

    The TNT logo on a TV means it is compatible with the free-to-air SD channels on the French DTT service TNT (Télévision Numérique Terrestre). According to the French Sony website the tv is only MPEG2.
    If the logo is TNT-HD the TV is MPEG-4.


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    #53
    christo82
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    Can anyone confirm that the BRAVIA KDL-32V4500 works with Irish DTT? Selling for €620+delivery on pixmania. Good price? Good TV?


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    #54
    slegs
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    christo82 wrote: »
    Can anyone confirm that the BRAVIA KDL-32V4500 works with Irish DTT? Selling for €620+delivery on pixmania. Good price? Good TV?

    http://www.sony.fr/product/t32-v-series/kdl-32v4500#pageType=TechnicalSpecs

    On Sony French site it says "Oui" for MPEG4! Very good price for a top telly imo


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    #55
    pa990
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    Whats the story with Tv's up north? is there a definitive list as to which Tv's have a mpeg4 decoder?

    I am thinking of heading to belfast soon, but i dont wantto end up with a mpeg2 TV.

    i'm thinking of a 46", and will probably go to richer sounds.

    any ideas??


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    #56
    D'Peoples Voice
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    The Cush wrote: »
    Also Sony KDL-26V4500 (I have one) €739.95/€604.00

    The description on that page reads
    26" BRAVIA HD Ready V4500 LCD TV features the draw the LINE design concept and a sleek finish, an integrated MPEG-2 digital terrestrial tuner and a Picture Frame mode to turn your TV into a large screen-digital picture frame.
    Are you sure about the type of tuner you have?


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    #57
    The Cush
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    D'Peoples Voice wrote: »
    Are you sure about the type of tuner you have?

    See page 33 of the manual for the specs which includes MPEG-4.
    Also the Sony France website indicates this model has an MPEG-4 tuner - Tuner TV Haute Définition (MPEG 4) - H.264.


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    #58
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,373 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Looking for a TV/Monitor for use as a bedroom TV + XBOX monitor but want both UHF & VHF tuner.

    This one says Analogue and Digital Tuner, does anyone know if that means UHF & VHF?


    Samsung Link:


    Komplett LINK:

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    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #59
    Aepos
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Aepos


    Got my Panasonic TX-32LZD81 yesterday and can confirm all works perfectly. DVB from 3 Rock is perfect, Freesat is Super & HD is very, very good.

    All in all a super TV & very easy to set up.

    Happy New Year to all,

    Aepos


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    #60
    dowlingd
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    did anyone get an LG 42LG700, it is going for a good price of £549 in currys uk, thinking of getting but I couldn't confirm if it would work with RTE DVB-T2 Mpeg4 so I was wondering if anyone got this model and if they had any luck receiving RTE DVB

    Thanks


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    #61
    Myxomatosis
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    LG 42LG7000?

    I was looking at that model and I don't think it does MPEG 4, can't see it anywhere in the specs.


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