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The English Times insists its called Bombay

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  • 28-11-2008 11:58am
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    BenjAii
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    I've noticed in coverage on the recent terrorist attacks in Mumbai, the English Times ( http://www.timesonline.co.uk ) insists in calling the city Bombay. Even going so far as to helpfully let us know in some articles, it's "also known as Mumbai". This despite the fact the official name change was 12 years ago, and you never see the city referred to as Bombay anymore, except when speaking about it historically.

    Weird; someone obviously hasn't got over the loss of Empire yet. The cheeky native upstarts, thinking they can go changing names if they want ......


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    Heisenberg.
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    Professey Chin
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    Can we start changing names of their cities?


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    BenjAii
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    Ultimate Chin wrote: »
    Can we start changing names of their cities?

    We could rename both our islands "The Irish Islands" and we could talk about going to "the mainland" when returning home from shopping trips to London.


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    Stercus Accidit
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    Stinktown/London swap ftw


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    ScumLord
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    Oh! So that's what happened Bombay. And here's me flying into Baljek the hole time.


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    Heisenberg.
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    Rowley Birkin QC
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    London = Stephen, as was the style of the time.

    Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. ‘Give me five bees for a quarter,’ you’d say. Now where were we?


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    Professey Chin
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    The Scientist wrote: »
    CorkYork has a nice ring to it... :)
    From this day forward, Dover shall be renamed as Ben Dover in his honour


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    Robbo
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    Ultimate Chin wrote: »
    Can we start changing names of their cities?
    Simply refer to their monarch by her proper married name of Betty Glucksberg.


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    Rowley Birkin QC
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    Robbo wrote: »
    Simply refer to their monarch by her proper married name of Betty Glucksberg.

    or Lizardface Astrobitch as she likes to be called in private.


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    Nodin
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    BenjAii wrote: »
    I've noticed in coverage on the recent terrorist attacks in Mumbai, (....), thinking they can go changing names if they want ......

    It is an integral part of understanding the business of Empire that you realise that brown, black, yellow or Irish people have no names for anything, until one arrives in ones gunboat and does the naming for them. The natives, distressed at the arrival of proper names for things, frequently become agitated, and then one must shoot a few, string up others etc, until their bestial nature recedes.


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    hot2def
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    BenjAii wrote: »

    Weird; someone obviously hasn't got over the loss of Empire yet. The cheeky native upstarts, thinking they can go changing names if they want ......
    BenjAii wrote: »
    We could rename both our islands "The Irish Islands" and we could talk about going to "the mainland" when returning home from shopping trips to London.


    you're right, *someone* hasn't gotten over the empire yet...


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    asdasd
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    Hmm, maybe they think the English for Mumbai is Bombay, which is incorrect. Bombay is from some Portugese root, and Mumbai is indian. So Mumbai is correct.

    That said, we tend to use the English names of cities in English rather than the name in the native language. So Rome, not Roma etc. That might be their worldview.


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    Roadend
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    So is Bombay mix now Mumbai mix?


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    Smart Bug
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    That's because they're imperialist bastards.


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    asdasd
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    And yet we also get mad when they call us Eire.


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    R0ot
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    The Scientist wrote: »
    They also call Derry Londonderry for some reason.. Those crazy Ingerlish..

    Don't start this one off... please


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    biko
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    Others use Bombay too

    Le Monde = Bombay
    Der Spiegel = Mumbai
    CNN = Mumbai
    Reuters = Mumbai
    SVD = Bombay
    El Pais = Bombay

    Maybe some are more sensitive to Bombay than others


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    Terry
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    Smart Bug wrote: »
    That's because they're imperialist bastards.
    Jesus. It's just one after the other today.
    Banned.


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    shellyboo
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    biko wrote: »
    Others use Bombay too

    Le Monde = Bombay
    Der Spiegel = Mumbai
    CNN = Mumbai
    Reuters = Mumbai
    SVD = Bombay
    El Pais = Bombay

    Yep. Lots of papers have these little editorial quirks, it's just a style guide thing.


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    oeb
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    Ultimate Chin wrote: »
    Can we start changing names of their cities?


    This is a great idea.

    I suggest that Manchester becomes 'New Mayfield'


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    stovelid
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    Mumbai Mix just doesn't have the same ring to it.


    edit: sorry Roadend.


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    getz
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    question who first called ireland --ireland ? and for my next question-


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    seamus
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    I suggest that we change Liverpool to "New Cork".

    The Brits have a habit of this. Bangkok is still called so by almost everyone in the English-speaking world despite not being in existence any more.

    I imagine "Mumbai" is more difficult to say than "Bombay" in a think British accent.


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    Burning Eclipse
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    asdasd wrote: »
    Hmm, maybe they think the English for Mumbai is Bombay, which is incorrect. Bombay is from some Portugese root, and Mumbai is indian. So Mumbai is correct.

    That said, we tend to use the English names of cities in English rather than the name in the native language. So Rome, not Roma etc. That might be their worldview.

    Glad somebody posted this.

    I was gonna go with Torina instead of Turin, or Venezia instead of Venice. Is this Bombay thing really that big a deal!?


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    getz
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    seamus wrote: »
    I suggest that we change Liverpool to "New Cork".

    The Brits have a habit of this. Bangkok is still called so by almost everyone in the English-speaking world despite not being in existence any more.

    I imagine "Mumbai" is more difficult to say than "Bombay" in a think British accent.
    yes we british think in a british accent


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    stovelid
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    Burning Eclipse wrote: »
    Glad somebody posted this.

    I was gonna go with Torina instead of Turin, or Venezia instead of Venice. Is this Bombay thing really that big a deal!?

    :)

    People get the horn more for native names when the country has a colonial history. Otherwise, nada. I'm assuming everyone here is going to henceforth start referring to our country as Eire, and not Ireland. And Deutschland instead of Germany; Espana instead of Spain, etc.


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    seamus
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    yes we british think in a british accent
    Of course you do. I think in an Irish accent. Your inner monologue should use your own voice.

    Mine does anyway.


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    ejmaztec
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    seamus wrote: »
    I suggest that we change Liverpool to "New Cork".

    The Brits have a habit of this. Bangkok is still called so by almost everyone in the English-speaking world despite not being in existence any more.

    I imagine "Mumbai" is more difficult to say than "Bombay" in a think British accent.

    Is it now called Soreknob? :pac:


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    Professey Chin
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    seamus wrote: »
    Of course you do. I think in an Irish accent. Your inner monologue should use your own voice.

    Mine does anyway.
    Mine speaks like william shatner


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