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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

All farming sectors go through difficult periods and during such times there may need to be changes in how threads are moderated.

Dairy threads are going to be more closely monitored and subject to stricter moderation for a while.

To that end we won’t tolerate baiting of posters, constantly reviving old arguments, posters with agendas or crusading for a cause.

Whether it’s discussion of the business or politics of the dairy or other sectors, we expect civility and tolerance toward each other and other opinions as diversity of opinion is needed as a source of different ways of looking at a situation.

"The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert

Also please be aware that what you may post as light-hearted banter can be read totally differently by someone adversely affected by the subject matter and evoke a reaction you hadn’t intended.

The ‘Off-Season’ forum, and its anonymous posting, is available for anyone to chat about their situation.

The Mod Team.

10 away from the 10000 posts! Frazz I think it's fair to say this thread has been a success!

Indeed it was! First thread can be found here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056872221

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degetme

two year old meuller tank here. around twenty minutes to wash

frazzledhome

30 yro Alfa tank 25 mins
4 yo KK 40 mins

Both full hot wash

C0N0R

whelan2 wrote: »

wondering what sort of a wash a 20 minute wash is compared to the guts of an hour?

Wash in NZ on a 30,000 litre tank used to take max ten mins! Never had any problems with milk quality.

alps

50 weanling heifers on an out farm...no yard or standoff. Enough grass for another 4 weeks, but finding it horribly difficult at the moment with the weather. Grass only....never feed till housed. Thinking of reducing the load. Heifers ranging from 240 to 285.
Which would guys bring home, the light ones or the heavy ones?

Greengrass1

alps wrote: »

50 weanling heifers on an out farm...no yard or standoff. Enough grass for another 4 weeks, but finding it horribly difficult at the moment with the weather. Grass only....never feed till housed. Thinking of reducing the load. Heifers ranging from 240 to 285.
Which would guys bring home, the light ones or the heavy ones?

Would moving them every day settle them? Fresh block of grass every day

frazzledhome

alps wrote: »

50 weanling heifers on an out farm...no yard or standoff. Enough grass for another 4 weeks, but finding it horribly difficult at the moment with the weather. Grass only....never feed till housed. Thinking of reducing the load. Heifers ranging from 240 to 285.
Which would guys bring home, the light ones or the heavy ones?

If you need to house id put in bigger ones and throw a kg or two to the smaller ones. I wouldn't consider housing small weanlings.

alps

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Would moving them every day settle them? Fresh block of grass every day

Certainly helps but on rented ground, and we really don't want to appear too severe with it. A great tactic to get over bursts of bad weather, but this has gone on to on long and no signs of improving. I feel if we could pull through with a reduced number, we'd get better value at the far end if weather improved again.

Panch18

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Would moving them every day settle them? Fresh block of grass every day

I would go the exact opposite, go set stocking from here on out and never move them, best way to settle them

Greengrass1

Panch18 wrote: »

I would go the exact opposite, go set stocking from here on out and never move them, best way to settle them

Best way to ruin a paddock to

darragh_haven

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Best way to ruin a paddock to

Not at this time of year tho.

Panch18

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Best way to ruin a paddock to

Not this time of year

Best chance to actually have it grazed properly in these conditions

Milked out

Another bull calf landed there. 2 left to calve now. One slight issue with having tightened up the autumn calvers for us here was with them nearly all calved now and having no spring cows dried off yet is space for all the milkers when inside, as normally a few spring cows would be dried as autumn girls calve in Nov and dec.

jaymla627

Panch18 wrote: »

I would go the exact opposite, go set stocking from here on out and never move them, best way to settle them

plus one on that, gave up strip grazing youngstock here as it usually ment in wet weather lots of bawling and messed up paddocks, give 7-10 day blocks now and 2kg of meal at grass and it works a treat

stanflt

Milked out wrote: »

Another bull calf landed there. 2 left to calve now. One slight issue with having tightened up the autumn calvers for us here was with them nearly all calved now and having no spring cows dried off yet is space for all the milkers when inside, as normally a few spring cows would be dried as autumn girls calve in Nov and dec.

Tested 7 lwr calves yesterday- lotto time

Midfield9

The last batch of bvd samples I sent off I got the results back by text but I haven't received a text for the samples that I sent off about a week before them. How do you go about checking them out.

whelan2

Midfield9 wrote: »

The last batch of bvd samples I sent off I got the results back by text but I haven't received a text for the samples that I sent off about a week before them. How do you go about checking them out.

you can look them up on enfer -if thats were you get them tested - or on icbf

Midfield9

whelan2 wrote: »

you can look them up on enfer -if thats were you get them tested - or on icbf

I looked at icbf but I don't see it, just reports for empty results and retest. I'll check out enfer

whelan2

Midfield9 wrote: »

I looked at icbf but I don't see it, just reports for empty results and retest. I'll check out enfer

maybe ring them on monday , sample mightnt have arrived there

frazzledhome

Midfield9 wrote: »

The last batch of bvd samples I sent off I got the results back by text but I haven't received a text for the samples that I sent off about a week before them. How do you go about checking them out.

Try to generate movement cert will tell you if no results posted on icbf. Very unusual for samples not to be on website if tested though

Timmaay

http://www.donedeal.ie/dairycattle-for-sale/cow-lifter-for-sale/10850603

Hmmmm.....

trixi2011

Timmaay wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/dairycattle-for-sale/cow-lifter-for-sale/10850603

Hmmmm.....

Looks like a prick of a thing

Timmaay

My dad was clipping a cows tail in the parlour this morning, when she gave a hoor of a kick,and got him right on the hand, deep 4inch cut across his hand, thankfully didn't hit a vein or ligament etc. Needed 7 stitches in it, he'll be grand once he keeps it clean etc, but not something that someone in their mid 70s needs!

whelan2

Timmaay wrote: »

My dad was clipping a cows tail in the parlour this morning, when she gave a hoor of a kick,and got him right on the hand, deep 4inch cut across his hand, thankfully didn't hit a vein or ligament etc. Needed 7 stitches in it, he'll be grand once he keeps it clean etc, but not something that someone in their mid 70s needs!

broke my finger doing that a few years ago, scissor got the brunt of the kick and they broke mt finger

RightTurnClyde

whelan2 wrote: »

broke my finger doing that a few years ago, scissor got the brunt of the kick and they broke mt finger

Chap down the road, in his 20's lost an eye at the same thing.

Deepsouthwest

Have just spent the last 48 hrs on the flat of my back with pretty severe lower back pain, can't walk or even crawl at this stage. First time in my life an ailment has stopped me from getting out to the yard. Have taken Valium, difene and solpadel, all high strengths drugs from the doc, but not much relief yet.
luckily have good lads with me who can help out and it's prob the best time to be laid low as cows are just housed, and on OAD.
But a timely reminder to any farmer pushing the numbers game on a one man system, we're not invincible.

blackdog1

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Have just spent the last 48 hrs on the flat of my back with pretty severe lower back pain, can't walk or even crawl at this stage. First time in my life an ailment has stopped me from getting out to the yard. Have taken Valium, difene and solpadel, all high strengths drugs from the doc, but not much relief yet.
luckily have good lads with me who can help out and it's prob the best time to be laid low as cows are just housed, and on OAD.
But a timely reminder to any farmer pushing the numbers game on a one man system, we're not invincible.

Go find a good acupuncturist. From years of rugby it's the only quick fix. Sort you out quick if it's a muscle spasm. If it's a disc problem thats another matter..

frazzledhome

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Have just spent the last 48 hrs on the flat of my back with pretty severe lower back pain, can't walk or even crawl at this stage. First time in my life an ailment has stopped me from getting out to the yard. Have taken Valium, difene and solpadel, all high strengths drugs from the doc, but not much relief yet.
luckily have good lads with me who can help out and it's prob the best time to be laid low as cows are just housed, and on OAD.
But a timely reminder to any farmer pushing the numbers game on a one man system, we're not invincible.

Sorry to hear that. Take your time getting back to work

mf240

Timmaay wrote: »

My dad was clipping a cows tail in the parlour this morning, when she gave a hoor of a kick,and got him right on the hand, deep 4inch cut across his hand, thankfully didn't hit a vein or ligament etc. Needed 7 stitches in it, he'll be grand once he keeps it clean etc, but not something that someone in their mid 70s needs!

Hope he gets well soon tim.

My dad is over 80 and still working away but its a constant worry that he will get hurt. Youd rather it was your own hand got the belt .

Greengrass1

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Have just spent the last 48 hrs on the flat of my back with pretty severe lower back pain, can't walk or even crawl at this stage. First time in my life an ailment has stopped me from getting out to the yard. Have taken Valium, difene and solpadel, all high strengths drugs from the doc, but not much relief yet.
luckily have good lads with me who can help out and it's prob the best time to be laid low as cows are just housed, and on OAD.
But a timely reminder to any farmer pushing the numbers game on a one man system, we're not invincible.

Big plus one on your last point DSW.
I got away there yesterday evening here and all of today. I had thought I had alot of work done and dad would only have minor things to do but hI'm amd mam wete flat out from 7 am till time I came home.
Definitely wouldn't happen if I was on my own here.

Hope the back recovers for ye

freedominacup

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Have just spent the last 48 hrs on the flat of my back with pretty severe lower back pain, can't walk or even crawl at this stage. First time in my life an ailment has stopped me from getting out to the yard. Have taken Valium, difene and solpadel, all high strengths drugs from the doc, but not much relief yet.
luckily have good lads with me who can help out and it's prob the best time to be laid low as cows are just housed, and on OAD.
But a timely reminder to any farmer pushing the numbers game on a one man system, we're not invincible.

Plus one on the acupuncturist. I really don't know what the fascination with one man "systems" is. There's really no such thing. I struggle to think of any other business that even considers it an option. Definitely going to be adding cows shortly more or less to pay another wage.