Shenshen wrote: » Seeing as it's effectively run by men (national leaders, owners/CEO of businesses and companies, military, you name it chances are its run by a man), you'd really have to wonder at male masochism to turn it all anti-man....
UK Justice Minister Simon Hughes has recommended that the number of women serving prison terms should be reduced by half as most of them have been victims themselves, the BBC reported Thursday. "Women are a special case for very good, evidenced reasons. Firstly, many more women who go to prison have themselves been victims. They've often been abused or in violent partnerships," Hughes said on air of BBC Radio 5. He added that it was his belief that women tend to leave behind family responsibilities, unlike men. Hughes stressed that he was primarily referring to women sentenced for non-violent crimes. "There are some women who do terrible things and deserve to be locked up for a very long time. My concern is for those who are not a danger to society, who have become caught by a system which then does not help them out of it," Hughes said.
Kev W wrote: » So fear of being attacked is paranoid? It's not like it doesn't happen. Interesting assumption that the taxi driver is male.
Potatoeman wrote: » It sounds like they need better friends. That's like a man judging every woman on that one wagon they know.
Deleted User wrote: » objectification, abuse, groping, and just the general way in which they are treated like meat and how many men, even married friends of mine, have tried it on with them, assuming they hardly have the self esteem to not want to be a dirty little secret, it's depressing...
Wibbs wrote: » The "1 in 4/3/5[insert makey uppy figure here] are raped" is nonsense, which makes "rape culture" in the West a hysterical nonsense with it.
Wibbs wrote: » Indeed it does, at 30 the average childless Irish woman is earning more than the average 30 year old Irish man. Source That's before we get to the ever widening education gap, that if it was favouring men there would be ructions over it(rightfully) The "1 in 4/3/5[insert makey uppy figure here] are raped" is nonsense, which makes "rape culture" in the West a hysterical nonsense with it.
RWCNT wrote: » Since victim blaming and rape-jokes clearly exist, how can you possibly deny the existence of rape culture?
kylith wrote: » Ever find yourself worrying that that taxi driver is going to attack you?
smash wrote: » I was with you until this: Don't be proud of your gender, be proud of your personal achievements.
Samuel Scary Urination wrote: » I would consider that paranoia, yes. Taxi drivers are predominantly male, and I'm certain a male taxi driver is what kylith was alluding to. I'm sure now you're going to attempt to discredit my argument by telling me I'm being sexist by making this presumption.
NachoBusiness wrote: » Ha. What absolute nonsense. All of which you speak have their strings pulled by lobby groups, with agendas, none more powerful lobby groups than women's lobby groups who have been influencing all facets of society when it comes to legislation for well over forty years. You couldn't have a more naive opinion on how society is run if you tired. An as shining example of how what you suggest is bollox, lets look at some recent comments by UK Justice Minister, Simon Hughes: The western world is "run by men"? Yeah, of course it is.
Samuel Scary Urination wrote: » No, and if you're that paranoid I'd suggest speaking to a therapist. Are you worried the taxi driver will attack you because he's a male?
Kev W wrote: » Why are you comparing statistics for childless women to statistics for men? I'm not disputing your numbers (though a source would be nice)
Iseedeadpixels wrote: » Rape crisis Centres....check Common folk beating up a rapist.....check Prison used mainly for sex offenders....check A man can't legally be raped by a woman in Ireland check.... Definite rape culture right there :rolleyes:
One eyed Jack wrote: » Now that's very unfair considering you started the thread because you think the Western world is anti-man, and it's exactly the sort of dismissive response that some men complain about when they try to talk about issues that they are affected and influenced by. Would you call those men paranoid and suggest they speak to a therapist? Are you afraid of being attacked by a woman at night, and that's why you take a taxi? If you're not prepared to take someone else's issues seriously, then you have no right to complain when other people don't take your issues seriously. I'm trying to take the issues you raise seriously, but you're not making it easy.
mariaalice wrote: » As I always ask had anyone met an extreme feminist or even any average feminist in real life, has anyone been personally affected by a feminist agenda what laws in Ireland are anti men and have come about because of political lobbying by women. The interned multiplies everything by a 10000.
Kev W wrote: » I could be reading too much into your post but are you actually saying that the existence of rape crisis centres disproves rape culture? Because it seems kind of the opposite, if anything.
mariaalice wrote: » Men have use rape crisis centres as well why would you think its only women.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Friend of mine went through hell after being caught with his same-age 15 year old girlfriend. She got off scott free thanks to our "only boys can be aggressors law". Not a peep out of feminists, expect to insist that none of these scenarios matter and women are the only victims of sexism.
Kev W wrote: » Perhaps you see it that way because you don't recognise your privilege, seeing it as simply "the way things are"? Many forms of privilege are the absence of things. When was the last time you felt afraid to be outside alone at night, for example? A fish doesn't know it's surrounded by water until you take it out.
B0jangles wrote: » Hang on, if these feminist lobby groups are so pervasive and powerful, how come there are still ZERO woman-dominated governments / judiciaries / Police Forces / Multinationals? (I'm not saying there should be BTW, personally I'm all for balance, but if Nacho's super-powerful feminist lobby groups exist then they are remarkably inefficient) Fake edit: Apparently there are 2 countries globally where women make up more than 50% of the government - Bolivia and Rwanda.
Skylinehead wrote: » Read again, there's a little link called "Source" in Wibbs post.
Samaris wrote: » So, yeah, it's possible that half the squabbling comes from the fact that we just (most of us) can't live for long enough as the other gender to get a good idea of what the world feels like to one of them. Possibly.
Deleted User wrote: » The worst are the many men who go from pleading to abuse when knocked back.
orubiru wrote: » Let's be honest here, the vast majority of women out there genuinely do want to have a good man in their lives. The majority of those women do already have a good man in their lives. They do not hate men. They do not hate masculinity.
We must stop indoctrinating boys in feminist ideology In November last year, The Times reported on a programme in London Schools in which two American women, one a former sex crime prosecutor, “re-programme teenage boys’ sexual manners so they are fit for a feminist world”. According to the report, they start the class by asserting that “misogyny is on the rise”, before going on to “describe real-life sex crimes that have happened to teenagers in this area with brutal accuracy”. The article concludes – approvingly -- that by the end of the session, the boys are “scarred for life”. In context of the chasm between boys’ and girls’ educational attainment and a rising male suicide rate that is now nearly four times that of women’s, why are schools deciding that when it comes to talking about gender, what boys need most is an extra dose of guilt and shame? The Great Men Value Women project, frames its mission as about helping young men, but it’s also driven by the belief that young men need to be re-educated as feminists – not just for their own good, but for women’s too. On the section of their website listing the organisation’s values, their final point simply states: “Feminism: This says it all”, with a link to a video of TED X talk entitled: “We Should All Be Feminists”. Really? Who says so? Most importantly though, since when was it acceptable to impose ideology on school children? And for that matter, would we ever dare to suggest school girls ought to be taught that Great Women Value Men? By all means, let’s teach children about healthy relationships, but that’s not really what these campaigns are about. Instead there is an overwhelming emphasis on imposing an ideological worldview that first and foremost sees young men as potential abusers and perpetrators, while routinely ignoring and minimising the very real threat of violence, both physical and sexual, that boys and young men face themselves. You’d never know it from the rhetoric, but a man – and particularly a young man -- is around twice as likely to be a victim of violent crime as a woman. And it’s not just drunken street violence either. A 2009 NSPCC report into domestic violence in teenage relationships, showed teenage boys suffer comparable rates of violence from their girlfriends as do teenage girls from their boyfriends. In the same year another report, this time by Childline, found that of the children who called to report sexual abuse, a total of 8,457 were girls (64pc) and 4,780 were boys (36pc). The charity also found boys were more likely to say they had been sexually abused by a woman (1,722 cases) than by a man (1,651). Imagine what it must it be like as a young man who has been beaten or sexually abused, possibly by a woman, to then be forced to attend a workshop that tells him that simply because he’s a young man, he should hang his head in shame as a potential abuser? Neither are these activist interventions just the preserve of a few radical head teachers: they in fact reflect official government policy.
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