youngrun wrote: » What happened ? IAAF database was robbed and leaked to press, of course the establishment mouth of the British state the ST. Political pointscoring . Just in time to embarrass Chinese hosts of Beijing worlds, Russia as the bad guy in general, and of cours to aid Seb Coes IAAF presidency. I have never read so many ifs, buts, and maybes and potentials re doping in an article as the Sunday Times yesterday , zero proof . Analysis done by paid lackeys who should have picked up any doping issues in their day jobs .
Wild Garlic wrote: » I'm probably missing something here so I'll apologise in advance, but at what point does a result of a doping test stop been suspicious and become positive. Or is it simply a case of an abnormally high amount of a certain blood cell been present in a sample which may or may not be a result of the use of a banned substance?
ThisRegard wrote: » Sure, let's pretend it never happened.
average_runner wrote: » Lets see, Chinese won a load of medals and it was well known they cheated, no medal given back to Sonia. We have men in their 30's running 100m quicker than the bionic man could. The Americans have hidden positive results from their trials for the Olympics numerous times. We have Feck all testing in countries that are power houses in athletics, ie Jamaica and Kenya. We then let all the drug cheats back in and so we show youngsters if you cheat u can earn millions. And even better, drug cheats are allowed to become coaches Forget about other sports, it's not the issue here.
pconn062 wrote: » Don't know how you came to that conclusion? The problem is that Joe Soap things athletics is filthy and that "sure they're all it!". But this is mainly because, compared to other sports, athletics actually has a pretty good system in place for catching dopers and spends more money on it that a lot of other sports, meaning that a lot of the time the dopers actually get caught! It not that people (like me) are denying that there is a doping issue in athletics, there clearly is. But you have all the keyboard warriors saying "athletics is filthy, rabble rabble" before turning on the football or rugby (or tennis, golf etc) and thinking those sports are clean as a whistle.
average_runner wrote: » Golf came third, it wasn't based on drugs but abusive substances, ie pain killers can be counted there. The fact that people keep mentioning other sports, tells me people aren't willing to believe that athletics is filthy. This kind of hiding drug results has happened for years especially in the USA.
Ceepo wrote: » For me the the worst part of this story is that it was leaked from iaaf. And in there statement the they say they will do every thing to protect there privacy policy. Which on the face of it sounds fine but it's the same as what the cycling federation done in previous times. I'm not saying that all of these suspicious test should automatically be banned but there seems to be a lack of transparency that the iaaf need to take there head out if the sand and stand up and be counted. Yes of course there is a drug problem in athletics but brushing it under the carpet is not the answer. In there defense for hiding the issue some of the biggest sports have been hiding it for years with a perceived it's not a problem in our sport and getting away with it. In a recent report Golf came out as the highest % of failed test per tested people and the media didn't or chose not to make to much of it. Last year the highest % was Rugby again there was nothing made of it in the media. Sorry can't link the report at the moment but a quick search will find it.
walshb wrote: » A complete non story. 1/3 athletes, suspicious tests. Give it a rest and get back to us when something actually happens.
siochain wrote: » Wasn't it 3% of those tested ?
Chivito550 wrote: » Kimmage must not be great at the auld maths: 4% of British athletes (Population 60m) = 12 athletes 3% of Irish athletes (Population 5m) = No more than 1 athlete Where is he pulling this 8 or 9 athletes from? Plucking them from the clouds.
The stats showed that Ireland had a 3% level of abnormal blood tests, and as Kimmage pointed out, Britain recorded a level of 4% of abnormal tests, which worked out at 12 athletes, "so we have maybe 8 or 9 athletes who have had abnormal tests".
Chivito550 wrote: » I love the use of the .... at the end. It's always a dead giveaway that somebody is just trying to stir sh1t for no reason.
Clonmel1000 wrote: » I'm sure gerry Kiernan or Chamney will construe this to be the GAAs fault....
Chivito550 wrote: Quit the suspense. Just tell us who Kimmage named. It's not breaking the charter as it is not our speculation, just reporting what Kimmage said.
