walshb wrote: » A complete non story. 1/3 athletes, suspicious tests. Give it a rest and get back to us when something actually happens.
Ceepo wrote: » For me the the worst part of this story is that it was leaked from iaaf. And in there statement the they say they will do every thing to protect there privacy policy. Which on the face of it sounds fine but it's the same as what the cycling federation done in previous times. I'm not saying that all of these suspicious test should automatically be banned but there seems to be a lack of transparency that the iaaf need to take there head out if the sand and stand up and be counted. Yes of course there is a drug problem in athletics but brushing it under the carpet is not the answer. In there defense for hiding the issue some of the biggest sports have been hiding it for years with a perceived it's not a problem in our sport and getting away with it. In a recent report Golf came out as the highest % of failed test per tested people and the media didn't or chose not to make to much of it. Last year the highest % was Rugby again there was nothing made of it in the media. Sorry can't link the report at the moment but a quick search will find it.
Wild Garlic wrote: » I'm probably missing something here so I'll apologise in advance, but at what point does a result of a doping test stop been suspicious and become positive. Or is it simply a case of an abnormally high amount of a certain blood cell been present in a sample which may or may not be a result of the use of a banned substance?
average_runner wrote: » Golf came third, it wasn't based on drugs but abusive substances, ie pain killers can be counted there. The fact that people keep mentioning other sports, tells me people aren't willing to believe that athletics is filthy. This kind of hiding drug results has happened for years especially in the USA.
pconn062 wrote: » Don't know how you came to that conclusion? The problem is that Joe Soap things athletics is filthy and that "sure they're all it!". But this is mainly because, compared to other sports, athletics actually has a pretty good system in place for catching dopers and spends more money on it that a lot of other sports, meaning that a lot of the time the dopers actually get caught! It not that people (like me) are denying that there is a doping issue in athletics, there clearly is. But you have all the keyboard warriors saying "athletics is filthy, rabble rabble" before turning on the football or rugby (or tennis, golf etc) and thinking those sports are clean as a whistle.
average_runner wrote: » Lets see, Chinese won a load of medals and it was well known they cheated, no medal given back to Sonia. We have men in their 30's running 100m quicker than the bionic man could. The Americans have hidden positive results from their trials for the Olympics numerous times. We have Feck all testing in countries that are power houses in athletics, ie Jamaica and Kenya. We then let all the drug cheats back in and so we show youngsters if you cheat u can earn millions. And even better, drug cheats are allowed to become coaches Forget about other sports, it's not the issue here.
ThisRegard wrote: » Sure, let's pretend it never happened.
youngrun wrote: » What happened ? IAAF database was robbed and leaked to press, of course the establishment mouth of the British state the ST. Political pointscoring . Just in time to embarrass Chinese hosts of Beijing worlds, Russia as the bad guy in general, and of cours to aid Seb Coes IAAF presidency. I have never read so many ifs, buts, and maybes and potentials re doping in an article as the Sunday Times yesterday , zero proof . Analysis done by paid lackeys who should have picked up any doping issues in their day jobs .
pconn062 wrote: » I'm not sure what is the point of listing known drug offenses in athletics is? You seem to be missing my point, it's a good thing that we know about all these doping violations, it means that the system for catching cheats in athletics is working. Are you really naive enough to think that athletics is worse than other professional sports? So rather than bash athletics constantly, why not ask ourselves why do we not hear of big scandals like this in other sports, where unlike athletics, the rewards for doping are much greater in terms of monetary value?! The more I hear about drug offenses in athletics makes me sad for the genuinely clean athletes in the sport, but it also makes me glad that more cheats are being caught.
paddy no 11 wrote: » Life time bans for doping its the only deterrent that will work
LuckyLloyd wrote: » The real non story is the idea that the lack of abnormal blood markers in the leaked samples "clear" Farrah and Bolt. But make no mistake sir, this leak is significant as a confirmation of what anyone not mired in naivety long suspected already. Stop at nothing to win.
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » Listening to Newstalk this morning Gillick was on the program, and reading between the lines, he pretty much feels that one, if not more of the people who beat him in the 2009 World Final were taking something.
average_runner wrote: » Lets see, Chinese won a load of medals and it was well known they cheated, no medal given back to Sonia.
walshb wrote: » And how about the guys who finished behind him? Maybe they feel like he does.
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » Maybe they do, what's your point?
walshb wrote: » No real point, just an observation, BUT! Sore bloody loser is my point.....
Chivito550 wrote: » Well we know that the winner of that race LaShawn Merritt tested positive not long after and was banned for 21 months.
shels4ever wrote: » Ah you have to feel for him, he did have a small micky Still one of the best excuses for a positive test.
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » What's this about ?? Or am I missing a joke?
