DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » Appreciate the fact that you live in a country where all voices can be heard.
K4t wrote: » Nobody wants them stopped from voting or campaigning. It will make it all the sweeter when it passes knowing the blood sweat and tears the god botherers will have put into lobbying and campaigning for a no vote in vain. Though they'll see it as having been a just and worthy cause of course.
Daith wrote: » Unless someone is blasphemous
padd b1975 wrote: » You do know lot's of gay people will be voting no? Kinda blows your theory out of the water doesn't it..
padd b1975 wrote: » You might want to ease back on the childish name calling there, it does nothing for yourself or your side of the argument.
Manach wrote: » Shock, Horror, Unbelievable. The Pope upholds Catholic doctrine and traditional communal values. I can seen mass dosages of smelling salts being applied to the PC brigade.
Daith wrote: » Likewise calling someone a liberal does nothing for your argument.
padd b1975 wrote: » You're not??
Daith wrote: » Grouping people to dismiss points isn't my thing tbh. Whether that is calling someone a liberal or homophobic.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Given the choice of a priest or a gay couple i know who i would prefer as a neighbour.
padd b1975 wrote: » Me too!!
K4t wrote: » The only side I am on is good v bad.
macyard wrote: » http://www.smh.com.au/national/named-the-australian-paedophile-jailed-for-40-years-20130630-2p5da.html I am guessing the priest, at least if he turns out to be paedophile he will be quite if the walls are thin, gay couple might be blasting pop music if they are paedophiles so you won't get as much sleep
padd b1975 wrote: » Always with the paedophilia!
K4t wrote: » I hope you won't object to me refusing to take marriage advice from an old virgin in charge of an organization that raped thousands of children for decades.
Daith wrote: » Sure, everyone can and should vote and everyone is allowed to express an opinion and everyone is allowed to express opinions on other people's opinions. Never said otherwise
macyard wrote: » I know right, why do people tarnish all priests as kiddy fiddlers.
Corvus Maximus wrote: » Dude Pope a virgin? Not a chance. The man worked as a bouncer in a Buenos Aires nightclub before he became a Priest. I'm sure his oats were well sown before he put on the collar.
Dog of Tears wrote: » Anyone who votes against extending the same rights to gay people as heterosexual people enjoy, is by definition, a homophobe. That is an unarguable fact.
Eramen wrote: » The word 'homophobe' is an invented political smear term. It's used by people who don't want to debate, but rather silence and label. This issue has nothing to do with rights and everything to do with values we embody i.e. what we stand for as a people and society (it's non-political, unlike what you're saying). Both the masculine and feminine forces of the two sexes are needed to bring out the best latent attributes, personality and talents in the child. This is the most crucial criterion of family life (as is marriage). We have a world-majority that agree with this reality.White 'progressive' supremacists will cry. And so they seek to smear others for it. Well said Pope.
Eramen wrote: » This issue has nothing to do with rights and everything to do with values we embody i.e. what we stand for as a people and society (it's non-political, unlike what you're saying).
Both the masculine and feminine forces of the two sexes are needed to bring out the best latent attributes, personality and talents in the child. This is the most crucial criterion of family life (as is marriage). We have a world-majority that agree with this reality.
mrsbyrne wrote: » Is it not kinda pointless though comfplaining about something and then saying that you think it should nonetheless be allowed to continue. It's a bit like looking at Sth Africa 30 years ago and saying "Well obviously apartheid is fundamentally evil , but hey , nothing can be done. I thino people who complain about the power and influence.of the RCC especially those that constantly simultaneously declare the RCC to have no power and influence in 2015 should come clean and start a campaign to have membership of the RCC included in the list of banned organizations.
ScumLord wrote: » It's not true though. The saying goes "It takes a village to raise a child". Of all the higher primates humans actually spend the least amount of time directly caring for their offspring, we regularly hand off the responsibility to other members of our community. So a good network of friends and family is at least as important if not more important to the upbringing of children than a child having male and female parents..
Eramen wrote: » Both the masculine and feminine forces of the two sexes are needed to bring out the best latent attributes, personality and talents in the child. This is the most crucial criterion of family life (as is marriage). We have a world-majority that agree with this reality.
K4t wrote: » You're confused. I'm not on any side. I believe in equal rights. Simple really. The only side I am on is good v bad. And religion is bad. Does it have redeeming characteristics? .
Warren asked Obama: “Define marriage.” “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman,” Obama said. “Now, for me as a Christian--for me--for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God's in the mix.” “Would you support a Constitutional Amendment with that definition?” Warren asked. “No, I would not,” said Obama. “Why not?” asked Warren. “Because historically, we have not defined marriage in our Constitution,” said Obama. “It's been a matter of state law. That has been our tradition. I mean, let's break it down. The reason that people think there needs to be a constitutional amendment, some people believe, is because of the concern that--about same-sex marriage. I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage, but I do believe in civil unions. I do believe that we should not--that for gay partners to want to visit each other in the hospital for the state to say, you know what, that's all right, I don't think in any way inhibits my core beliefs about what marriage are. I think my faith is strong enough and my marriage is strong enough that I can afford those civil rights to others, even if I have a different perspective or different view.” On Nov. 1, 2008, just three days before the 2008 election, Obama again stated that he did not believe in same-sex mar
