Dredd_J wrote: » As a cyclist myself - on dry calm days - and a driver any other day i really am amazed at the disregard for their own lives that most cyclists have in Dublin. Its unbelievable the amount of cyclists lives I save in the mornings when im driving in Dublin city, despite their best efforts to die.
Jawgap wrote: » .......eh, thanks, I think
Dredd_J wrote: » I dont believe you dont notice it yourself. Its like a fukin obstacle course of idiots in the city center in the mornings. Even when on the bike, its hard to avoid the idiots. Id say a good 50% of cyclists on their morning commute are either trying to have an accident, dont know how to cycle safely or are just idiots.
Dredd_J wrote: » Even when on the bike, its hard to avoid the idiots. Id say a good 50% of cyclists on their morning commute are either trying to have an accident, dont know how to cycle safely or are just idiots.
CramCycle wrote: » I have seen a car turn on a green light only to stop on the red for the crossing traffic and then look confused as everyone blared the horn at their stupidity,
CramCycle wrote: » Your missing the point of why generalisation is wrong. They are not only on bikes, they are walking, they are driving, they are everywhere. It's like invasion of the body snatchers only we know and don't seem to care enough to stop it. I had a girl walk into me while stopped at a traffic lights, I have seen a car turn on a green light only to stop on the red for the crossing traffic and then look confused as everyone blared the horn at their stupidity, i seen a cyclist fall over at a standstill because he was too stupid to put his feet on the ground. Idiots are idiots, how they get from a to b, is irrelevant.
Dredd_J wrote: » I was actually referring to cyclists, because of the thread title. And cyclists are the most likely to be seriously injured, or even killed because of their own stupidity.
Of all fatalities and serious injuries recorded between 1997 and 2011, speed was a contributory factor in 22% of fatalities and in 19% of serious injuries.
Dredd_J wrote: » Its unbelievable the amount of cyclists lives I save in the mornings when im driving in Dublin city, despite their best efforts to die.
gadetra wrote: » To date 42 drives have been killed this year. 8 Cyclists have died in the same time frame. Your statement is simply not true. Cycling is not an inherently dangerous activity. Yes the cyclist is invariably going to come off worst in a cyclist v car situation, but when you consider the ire poured upon cyclists by motorists, it just does not compare to the amount of accidents, fatal, serious and otherwise between motorists of various forms, yet they are not vilified the same. I can't understand why?http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=10816&Lang=1
Dredd_J wrote: » And cyclists are the most likely to be seriously injured, or even killed because of their own stupidity.
papu wrote: » Are they not pedestrian controlled machines? as would be skateboards , rollerblades , scooters and waveboards... You're saying we should tax them all.. tax everyone..
Pinch Flat wrote: » I'm with Spooke on this one. So my bike weighs say 9kg, compared to my car which is let's say 1500kg. I pay €200 annum to tax my car based on emissions. Although my bike or me produces no emissions - I'm sure someone will point out the negligible effect of co2 produced by me huffing and puffing, but let's park that. On the basis of the weight of my bike and the wear and tear it caused by sheer weight alone, I'm willing to tax it proportionally to the weight of my car which works out about €1 annually. Where do I send my cheque?
CramCycle wrote: » Just despise morons and ignoramì.
Spook_ie wrote: » Glad you agree in principle, the flat rate for pedestrian controlled vehicles is around €90, so let's leave it at the same price :-)
Pinch Flat wrote: » Ah no fair is fair. Zero emissions (bar the odd fart) means zero tax. Ok I was being unreasonable - will up my offer by 50% to €1.50. While I'm at it I'd also like a rebate on the 5 days a week I keep my car off the road. Its probably been pointed out to you before, but there are quite a few vehicles pay zero motor tax including Garda, emergency, diplomatic, road sweepers. Taxi drivers also pay very little motor tax. So why are cyclists singled out as the group who should pay when they cause very little wear and tear on the roads , emit zero emissions and actively remove road vehicles from the queue of cars into the city?
Spook_ie wrote: » I don't think the pedestrian controlled vehicles that are subject to taxation do much damage either but they still pay €88 I think that would be an equitable fee for cyclists,after all they could then pay it to the local government fund (as does motor tax) and use it to keep cycle lanes in good repair
cournioni wrote: » Driving on my way home last night at traffic lights at a T-Junction on a one way two laned street (one going left, one right onto a two way street). I waited as usual at the lights, turning right onto the two way street. Light turns green and two cyclists (both without helmets) went straight through their red light and into my path. I lay into the horn, one of the cyclists looked visibly shook and the other laughed while both of then cycled across two lanes of traffic who obviously had the right of way. Infuriating.
Tarzana wrote: » And the same thing happened to me not so long ago, except the person breaking the light was a motorist and I was the cyclist.
dubscottie wrote: » Cyclists have the right of way in all situations don't they? Red lights, pedestrian crossings, cycling round blind bends on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic while doing one of your "races" up the Dublin/Wicklow mountains… I could go on.. This thread (not aimed at you Tarzana) is why people hate cyclists.. Look at the replies from the cyclists.. You can do no wrong. You are all experts on the rules of the road (but not one of you seems to know the road traffic act which is the law) Every thing bad that happens is not your fault, It is down to some motorist, and you try to justify it by some bull**** response attacking the poster that asks questions, but never answering the question about your actions..
Tarzana wrote: » What happened in my post was 100% the motorist's fault. In my example, yup, I did have right of way. She ran a red light and at some speed too. Not sure how you extrapolated from that that I think cyclists always have right of way. My reason for bringing it up was to show that cyclists, motorists and pedestrians make errors.
dubscottie wrote: » As I said.. Not aimed at you.. But over the 40 odd pages in this thread, there is a theme going with regards to the responses from cyclists.
Tarzana wrote: » Any inkling why cyclists might be so defensive?
