.jacksparrow. wrote: » It's there in black and white.
dxhound2005 wrote: » We don't even have to wait for that the see how they are a failure in Government. If you judge failure by a health service which is in chaos and swingeing property tax on ordinary people. With laws allowing them to repossess your house, make you bankrupt and put you in jail if you don't pay up. Just look North.
umop.episdn wrote: It's a protest vote, against the mainstream partys, but when it comes to a general election, people back away, it's one thing to let them in charge of tarmacing bothareens, it's another giving them charge of our entire economy.
Jonny Blaze wrote: » Protocol that basically every other decent human being in office ignored..
OldRio wrote: » Why would I look North for that? Tis here.
Jonny Blaze wrote: » Protocol that basically every other decent human being in office ignored.. And if he was such an observer of protocol.. It's well known that Ireland provided asisstance to the allies during the war. It's less well know that they also entertained the notion of siding with the nazi's early on before it became obvious they were going to lose. Hedging their bets really.
pablomakaveli wrote: » Probably because nearly all the other Western European countries were involved with the war. Ireland, Portugal and Spain were all neutral.
Conchir wrote: » I voted for the first time yesterday. So did many of my friends in school. I didn't nor ever will vote for Sinn Fein, the same as most of the other people I know my age. Where do you get your info?
Frank Lee Midere wrote: » The rest of Europe was at war with Germany at that time, or occupied by the allies or both. There is no evidence at all that the Irish government was going to join the nazis. There is no cabinet discussion on it. There was no plan to do so. Reading stuff on unionist websites is not the same as an education.
diomed wrote: » I voted for them. They got my 11th preference, and my 12th preference.
dxhound2005 wrote: » And do you believe SF will make it go away here? They didn't in the North.
umop.episdn wrote: » SF have recently done well in local elections, no reason to think they wouldn't do well in this one. It's a protest vote, against the mainstream partys, but when it comes to a general election, people back away, it's one thing to let them in charge of tarmacing bothareens, it's another giving them charge of our entire economy.
longhalloween wrote: » WHAT DO WE WANT? AN END TO AUSTERITY! HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? uhhhh.......
dxhound2005 wrote: » Dev was probalby trying to compete with Sinn Fein for the Republican anti British vote. SF would have gained on that front by collaborating with the Nazis during the war.
Jonny Blaze wrote: » I've never visited a republican or a unionist website. I'm Scottish. Anyway this conversation is off topic don't you think?
mr_edge_to_you wrote: » they're only a shower of murderers, terrorists, beards and shinnerbots. before long they'll be in a position of real responsibility and will probably sh!t themselves at the thought of having to make tough and real decisions. not as easy as being in opposition when the country is broke and they can just criticise and object every government policy.
washman3 wrote: » So we should hand back charge of our entire economy to FF/Greens and a few gombeen independents.!! Sure they done a great job the last time they were in charge.:D
Jonny Blaze wrote: » The war was over though. Also, Portugal and Spain were fascists.. you know? Like the nazi's?
Frank Lee Midere wrote: » Are they. Seems that FF are making the real comeback.
umop.episdn wrote: » No political party will go into govt with Sinn Fein, so if they want in, you'll have Ming as Tanaiste & Mick Wallace as minister for defence
The Backwards Man wrote: » Fourth behind Independents, FG and FF. Hardly call it a victory in the current climate. That's as good as their support will ever get. Everyone else knows what they are and will never vote for them, enjoy your 'victory' while it lasts.
Dan_Solo wrote: » You think FG and FF have higher moral standards than Labour or the Greens who were only too delighted to whore out their party to the highest bidder?
The Diabolical Monocle wrote: » Oh I think we've just begun Jonny .... Now let's move on to the royals and their associations with Adolf. They went a whole lot further than signing a book. If you can pull disparaging ...stuff... out of your ...history folder ... Then so can I. Did you know Britain invented the concentration camp.
frimpong wrote: » Same as you to an extent, ancedotal evidence. Except most of the people I know like yourself, would vote for Sinn Fein.
blackbaron wrote: » Way to go Sinn Fein, you've done extremely well for a party with absolutely no feasible policies and significant ties to terrorism in Ireland and the UK. If SF deserve a "way to go" here, so do FF. They utterly destroyed Ireland and have shouldered debt on generations of Irish people, and they've come out of this election even stronger than SF. So well done to Ireland's protest voters. You can be proud today for having supported a bunch of no-name, no history "politicians" with ties to terrorism, and a bunch of people tied to Ireland's massive downfall which triggered job losses, suicides and mass emigration. Today is a victory for Irish emigrants. Ireland's massively entitled welfare class and non-taxpayers, those who keep demanding more money for themselves from the pockets of everyone else despite having the second most progressive tax system in the world and one of the most generous welfare systems in the world, have shown their power today and proven, beyond doubt, that Ireland is not worth returning to. That Ireland's future is not a bright one. Voting anti-Europe, when EU membership is entirely responsible for Ireland's success as a small island nation. Voting anti-business, when Ireland's current employment scenario is being propped up due to it being a tax haven for non-Irish companies. Voting anti-taxpayer, when those taxpayers are propping up the lives of the 2.5m people who receive a form of welfare payment every week. "Less tax! More handouts!" cry a nation €220,000,000,000 in debt with only 2.2m people generating tax revenue. "F*ck the EU" they cry, as they come bowl in hand to their EU counterparts looking for money to keep the country running. Embarrassing, but not unexpected.
frimpong wrote: » I disagree. People under 25 have grown up with little to no experience of the troubles. People under 18 have grown with no experience of the troubles whatsoever. Most young people now have no hang ups about Sinn Fein as they will have only ever known them as another political party. Sinn Feins support will only grow over the next ten years imo, particularly in the under 25 age group.
umop.episdn wrote: » Since FG & FF will probably always do better in a general election, it will be SF having to do the whoreing & I can't see anybody willing to pay that price
